St. Paul football coach Gonzalez fired

St. Paul football coach Gonzalez fired

There are 117 comments on the Whittier Daily News story from Jan 5, 2009, titled St. Paul football coach Gonzalez fired. In it, Whittier Daily News reports that:

As of this morning, St. Paul High School is in the market for a head football coach.

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parent wondering

AOL

#1 Jan 6, 2009
what ever happened to its about the kids all i hear is parents complaining some for pete and some for change bottom line is that your all making the school look really bad i sent my son to st paul because i heard so many good things and now look at what has become of a school that was built on pride and tradition dont forget its about the kids not the big mouths that make us look bad
Walt Disney

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Jan 6, 2009
I've seen it all now....
maybe Goofy or Tiger will apply I think they have the same "animated" morals that Ms. Bar is looking for.
Good luck Coach Pete you will have NO PROBLEM furthering your career!
Best of luck to SPHS, you have become a mochary of "Victory with Honor".

Mr. Hernandez, click your heels twice tonight before you go to bed... maybe the wicked witch will be gone or the school with fall on her.

many regards and prayers to the parents who are struggling to send their children to private schools with the state of our depessing economy. God bless St. Paul.
Enough Already

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Jan 6, 2009
PARENT WONDERING - you are right, what happened to the voices of our kids... my daughter is a Senior at SPHS and is mortified about what's going on. She said the drama is as ridiculouos as a soap opera. Most students aren't happy with the changes but their opinions don't matter. talking about Coach Pete is childish, it's not necessary for anyone to call him out. he did some great things for the football program during his short reign. Lets move on people, SPHS has proven to be nothing more than a freak show. We have all area and private schools laughing at us, making indecent comments as if they have the right too. Ms. Bar, you need to get off your throne and stand up for the school and our children that we trust in your care for $500 a month! I'm seriously, considering if my February payment is going to be made if this continues. Mr. L was a quiet man but at least he communicated and worked with the families, bet we all wish he were back "right about now". God Bless SPHS!
Proud Of St Paul

United States

#4 Jan 6, 2009
People, get real. Walk on that campus. Speak to those young men. They are for the most part, all for the change, and view it as positive.

As for those who slam principal Barr, you would be wise not to. Already, she has made significant improvements and for one purpose only. But maybe if you actually showed up on campus and volunteered your time or knowledge, you would have seen these changes first hand.

To help your sons and daughters achieve the superior education that you sent them to St Paul for. Not for football, softball, volley ball or any other sport. Those should be secondary to an education, and quite frankly, those who feel otherwise, keep your tuition checks.
St Paul Dad

United States

#5 Jan 6, 2009
I take offense to some of the comments above. I send my son and daughter to St Paul for the education. End of story.

Sports and other activities are secondary, as they should be. If that is truly your priority for your kids, remove them quickly, and send them to sports camp. There are far too many other kids who would love their chance at the education they can receive here.

My son and all of his friends who I have spoken to are all very happy about this change, and all support it.

I want my kids to know that grades are first, along with ethics and accountability and lest we forget, morals. Something Coach Pete has failed at in my view.

I volunteer regularly, and have seen first hand the positive changes. I have also heard some very distressing things, and if true, I think a bit more house cleaning is in order.

I say Principal Barr has not done a single thing that has not been in the very best interest of the students that actually attend St Paul, and for that, I am very grateful.

But, I would know this, because I am involved, and I actually show up on campus to see these changes and improvements.

She has my full support.
St Paul Dad

United States

#7 Jan 6, 2009
Well, its obvious that you have not been on campus in a while, nor do you read the literature that comes home.

I cannot imagine you accusing principal Barr of pulling kids out of classes asking for tuition payments, but I say, if you are going to make an accusation like that, use your real name. Go to the school, or better yet, go to the Diocese if you believe this to be true.

Certainly no one would ever condone that type of behavior, but personally, I just dont believe that its happening.

Personally, I get the feeling that you are either related, or "involved" somehow?
St Paul Dad

United States

#8 Jan 6, 2009
BTW St Paul Mom, clearly you were either not a St. Paul student, or you totally blew off all of your English classes.

Perhaps you should focus more on setting a better example to your child. You should be ashamed of yourself. Not only for the poor example that you set, but by your blatant rumor spreading when chances are, none of its true.

I have not seen such horrible grammar in ... I don't know how long!
Proud of St Paul

United States

#9 Jan 6, 2009
Im thinking that "St Paul Mom" is either a relative of Coach, a member of coaching staff who is opposed to this dismissal, or really has a son there, because "mom" is WAY WAY to Pro Coach Pete.

No one who had a daughter would be so venomous regarding an issue that didn't really concern them. Also, to make such slanderous statements and accusations as "she" did, well, I say she is making things up. Anyone with a shred of decency would go straight to the Diocese if that had truly been happening. On top of that, I asked both my kids, and neither said it was a big deal on campus. In fact, since it only recently happened, most kids on campus know nothing about it! Perhaps our "massiah" knows more than you do?

If it were true, based upon "her" comments why would she simply sit back and let those types of activities occur?

I agree with you St. Paul Dad, "Mom" needs to educate herself. Not only in grammar, but in the opinion that its really not very Christian to make false claims and accusations against one. If it were true in any way, "she" would have put her money where her mouth is. Quite honestly, St Paul Mom did Coach Pete NO favors.
Friend of St Paul

Castro Valley, CA

#11 Jan 6, 2009
I have to start by saying that many of my family and friends graduated from St. Paul. I'm afraid this most recent "change" is an all-too-familiar move made by the Archdiocese. Rumor has it that St. Paul's will be closed in a few years - as will other Catholic Archdiocesan schools to help pay off the $660M settlement. As sad as it is, the Catholic church will once again victimize children by closing their schools.

St. Paul parents should be very concerned! If you're concerned about the future of your school you should take the time to read this entire post.

Here's an example of what's happening within the Archdiocese:

Daniel Murphy has already been closed. Prior to its closing, the athletic staff was "trimmed". Faculty, staff, parents and students were all lied to by the Archdiocese. They were told the school was financially sound and safe from closure. They were told not to worry. The principal reduced class size - claiming it was a "good thing" and cited the benefits of "a more improved teacher to student ratio". Recruitment from local feeder schools was stopped. Incoming transfer students were refused. Parents who tried to get their children into Daniel Murphy were told their kids would have to be put on a waiting list. Then, without ANY warning, a letter was delivered to the school informing the faculty, staff, parents and students that the school would be closed "due to low enrollment".

Now, that very same principal who lied to the faculty, parents and students at Daniel Murphy is the new principal at St. Bernard High School where he reduced their freshman class size to 55 students. This is a school with a max enrollment over 1,200. They're currently under 500 and this year's freshman class is 55. Sound like a formula for success? I don't think so. I strongly believe St. Bernard will be closed within 2 years.

St. Paul parents: Has your freshman class size been reduced this year? Now ask yourselves why. If what I was told holds true, this year's freshman class will be St. Paul's last graduating class. I hope and pray I'm wrong, but I feel compelled to share information with the St. Paul parents.

If you want to save your school, now is the time to get involved. Ask questions. Demand answers. If it doesn't sound right to you, it probably isn't.

Catholic education must be saved! We cannot rely on the public school system to educate our children.
Ray

Bell, CA

#12 Jan 6, 2009
I can't believe what you did, Marc Hernandez. If the man took this high school football team 2 out of 3 times to the playoffs during his three year term, why do you fire the guy? Why fire him, because he couldn't win the big one? So what, but at least, Marc, he took a big step. He knows what it takes to go to the big one now. You have a Bill Billicheck (New England Patriots), or a Pete Carolls (USC Trojans) in your hands. Why fire this guy? Having someone with a BA or MA in that nature, how are you going to find someone who spent the rest of his life trying to get a degree, and find time playing sports, or know the knowledge of football? The most you may find is a retire NFL football star. You should never of fired this coach. By the way, Marc, give the ex - Detriot Lions a call for the job, Rod Marinelli. I don't live in or never attended this school before, but hearing what you did, is the most dumbest of what you did. Marc Hernandez, ask yourself in the mirror, who is the smartest of it all - Marc Hernandez or Scooby Doo?
St Paul Alumni Parent

Monterey Park, CA

#13 Jan 6, 2009
Wow! What a mess!!!
Just win baby

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Jan 7, 2009
Ray wrote:
I can't believe what you did, Marc Hernandez. If the man took this high school football team 2 out of 3 times to the playoffs during his three year term, why do you fire the guy? Why fire him, because he couldn't win the big one? So what, but at least, Marc, he took a big step. He knows what it takes to go to the big one now. You have a Bill Billicheck (New England Patriots), or a Pete Carolls (USC Trojans) in your hands. Why fire this guy? Having someone with a BA or MA in that nature, how are you going to find someone who spent the rest of his life trying to get a degree, and find time playing sports, or know the knowledge of football? The most you may find is a retire NFL football star. You should never of fired this coach. By the way, Marc, give the ex - Detriot Lions a call for the job, Rod Marinelli. I don't live in or never attended this school before, but hearing what you did, is the most dumbest of what you did. Marc Hernandez, ask yourself in the mirror, who is the smartest of it all - Marc Hernandez or Scooby Doo?
Ray, this has nothing to do with wins or losses. Do not kid yourself, this is all about politics and the fact that not alot of people liked this guy because he was an "outsider". The alums want a St. Paul guy, because sometimes winning just isn't enough.
former player

La Puente, CA

#15 Jan 7, 2009
very excited to see pete gone! he did not belong in a catholic school program in terms of ethics, nor was he a qualified football coach. his knowledge was limited and he lived off gil jimenez ability as a defensive coach. pete lied and manipulated his way into the head coaching position by befriending hernandez and pushing ancich out a few years before his time. best candidates in my opinion are ancich's sons or the willig brothers. bring true pride and tradition back to the program through coaches with ethics and ability, not lying snakes. anyone that knows the true gonzalez is excited about the future of st. paul football without him.
dan

United States

#16 Jan 7, 2009
St Paul sucks ca hi rules
ccc

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Jan 7, 2009
WOW. Clear as water... the catholic religion is a mess and it is so sickening... Favoritism, politics, backstabbing, stepping of toes all right in the house of God which is supposed to teach otherwise.

All that money paid on a monthly basis to cover the damage the "catholic" church has done to others... no thank you.. Public school is probably better off than this...

I feel for all of you..
dan

United States

#18 Jan 7, 2009
ccc wrote:
WOW. Clear as water... the catholic religion is a mess and it is so sickening... Favoritism, politics, backstabbing, stepping of toes all right in the house of God which is supposed to teach otherwise.
All that money paid on a monthly basis to cover the damage the "catholic" church has done to others... no thank you.. Public school is probably better off than this...
I feel for all of you..
yes so true
Nanayrbzns

United States

#19 Jan 7, 2009
LOLOL, And all you parents call yourself educated people? Your paying for all this nonsence? My son and daughter attend public school in the area and believe me, there isn't close to that much drama.
Note: Maybe you should think twice before you make that next payment what kind of environment you want your child around. If this is the kind of priorities that is going around in the school, I would stop and think "do I really want my child there?" Believe me, football is not going to get them through life. Education is that's what you need to focus on, instead of "why did the coach get fired".
Hint Parents the joke's on you. You can get less drama in public school for free.
Oh and by the way, before all you pro private school parents start bashing, my children are "honor roll" students. THAT'S BECUASE THE EFFORT I PUT INTO IT NOT BECAUSE THE KIND OF SCHOOL THEY ATTEND!
Thank you
Saint Paul student

La Habra, CA

#20 Jan 7, 2009
I kmow saint paul, not as a parent, not as a coach, or teache, but as a student. sports before education or education before sports. why can't it be both. I have read alot of comments regarding this issue. colleges dont juxt look at grades, get involved, both parents abd students need to get involved. of course I am gonna hate some of the changes Ms.Barr is making they affect me most. As for coach getting fired or resigning...whatever he did I cant really say if thats right or not because I am not a football player or a statistic, meaning I wouldnt know what kind of coach he is 'cause he does not coach me and well what did we get last year a CIF but a win or two does not matter if we dont keep morality in mind.
Montebello Mom

Fullerton, CA

#21 Jan 7, 2009
Nanayrbzns wrote:
LOLOL, And all you parents call yourself educated people? Your paying for all this nonsence? My son and daughter attend public school in the area and believe me, there isn't close to that much drama.
Note: Maybe you should think twice before you make that next payment what kind of environment you want your child around. If this is the kind of priorities that is going around in the school, I would stop and think "do I really want my child there?" Believe me, football is not going to get them through life. Education is that's what you need to focus on, instead of "why did the coach get fired".
Hint Parents the joke's on you. You can get less drama in public school for free.
Oh and by the way, before all you pro private school parents start bashing, my children are "honor roll" students. THAT'S BECUASE THE EFFORT I PUT INTO IT NOT BECAUSE THE KIND OF SCHOOL THEY ATTEND!
Thank you
I totally agree with you! It's not the school but the student that makes the difference. If the student is going to be a good student, they are going to be no matter what school they attend.
Nanayrbzns

United States

#23 Jan 7, 2009
"Saint Paul Student"
I kmow saint paul, not as a parent, not as a coach, or teache, but as a student. sports before education or education before sports. why can't it be both. I have read alot of comments regarding this issue. colleges dont juxt look at grades, get involved, both parents abd students need to get involved. of course I am gonna hate some of the changes Ms.Barr is making they affect me most. As for coach getting fired or resigning...whatever he did I cant really say if thats right or not because I am not a football player or a statistic, meaning I wouldnt know what kind of coach he is 'cause he does not coach me and well what did we get last year a CIF but a win or two does not matter if we dont keep morality in mind.

Wow, Saint Paul Student. Finally we have someone who knows what their talking about in this forum. If you were my son/daughter I'd be very proud of you. Don't worry about the changes, with change comes growth. One who has experienced change in life is one who has lived life to the fullest.

Just by reading your comments, I can tell you are very smart person who will have no problem coping with the change. In the end you will come out stronger and better because you would have learned from this experience.

Good luck! And remember focus on what is most important to.

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