High School Baseball - Politics over ...
Sad Dad

Antioch, CA

#43 Feb 15, 2012
My son was cut from the J.V. team today. Last year he batted 400 and was an outstanding pitcher. This year however he decided to focus on his grades as this is his junior and he was hoping to raise his grades preparing for college. Because he did not play Winter ball where the coaches get paid. They passed him up for the players who were in 10th grade and played Winter ball. I am so pissed because we were counting on a scholarship for baseball. Next year we will do all the right things and i will kiss the coaches ass and be the score keeper or bring cookies to the couches or maybe even slip the couch a 20 from time to time... it's all B.S. with the who you know crap. I hope they get their asses kicked this year.
Disappointed Mom

Boise, ID

#44 Feb 25, 2012
I was warned about politics in high school sports, but today I got to see it for myself. Coaches constantly give lip service to the importance of showing up for all practices, giving 110%, and displaying a great attitude. My daughter did all these things AND is a skilled athlete. Try-outs lasted two days and she did awesome(softball).Guess who made varsity? The player who never showed for summer practices, never came to batting practice(because her parents didn't like the owner of the Sandlot), and was very verbal with telling other players that if she did not make varsity then she was not going to play at all. Yes, you guessed it...this is the girl who made the varsity softball team. Now when my daughter, who plays as well as this girl, asks me why, do I tell her? All I can say is there will come a time when Mommy won,t be there to fight, pay,kiss butt for this girl, and she will have no idea how to be successful.Coaches, shame on you! And parents of this girl...you must be so proud.(not)
pissed

Victor, NY

#45 Mar 14, 2012
I have a similar result. i outplayed approximately half of the varsity team last year in summer leagues for baseball. I am now a sophomore but don't even get a chance to try out now. people bitched last year and got our coach fired for playing sophomores who worked their butts off and were better over lazy seniors. because of this our school has screwed kids like me for the next years and i cant say anything because then it makes me sound like i fell i am better than the other kids. its a lot of bull and i hate it. i feel like quitting because i will never get a shot to improve playing JV where i can outplay everyone by a long shot. they are now letting talent go to waste because some asshole seniors felt like they deserved to be playing because they cant take criticism. the coach who was fired told me i would most likely play varsity along with another coach and multiple players. What the Hell? especially when his assistant took over, you would think he would still have the same plan. the AD needs to grow a pair of balls and learn to stick up for his coach who is the coach of the year last year and should be again this year.
pissed baseball player

United States

#46 Mar 15, 2012
I was cut from JV baseball because of kids whos parents suck up to the coaches, and im a really good ballplayer. This has happened to me 3 years in a row and its the same kids every year. Last year the team didnt even go 500. Also, the kids that have older siblings that made it. Its bull and really hurts a lot of kids.
mom on a mission

Jessup, PA

#47 Mar 26, 2012
I am at this site because like most my son didn't make the JV baseball team at his high school.He's played for 10 yrs, attending off season pitching camps, played on the school fall ball team and participated in the school's conditioning program. The bottom line for our situation is that a parent bought uniforms to insure his 2 sons made the team.Judging from the other players who made the cut, the most work was done by their parents the week before the actual tryouts. It is very sad that based on this site, the same situations have gone on for at least the past 5 years and is a national epidemic effecting all sports. Maybe the coaches or whoever is making the decision should be "bribed" to select the best players? Has anyone ever found any national news articles on this? My son is over the whole thing. I know he will play Legion and Teener over the summer months. When he meets up with any of the super stars who did make the team, my husband told him to prove them wrong. By the way, the school's Varsity record is 2 wins in 2 years. With a record like that, i can't understand why they needed new uniforms. For any players reading this, you don't suck and it is too bad you have to be exposed to this type of thing at your age.
it has happened to me

Norwich, CT

#48 Mar 28, 2012
At the Norwich Free Academy in Norwich, Connecticut. Legendary coach John Iovino retired after the 2007 season. The new head coach, lets call him C.C. started to revamp the entire program. players got cute for no reason just because they were one of Iovino's boys. My role in this started my freshman year, I always hit well in BP but was given a limited amount of playing time just because I was not one of the more popular freshmen in school. I went 1-10 but also had 7 walks my freshman year, yet every season after that I averaged above .300 and no matter how hard I worked prior to every season, I would always get cut. It continued at my community college where I batted .391 my first season and continued with a .376 Batting average in legion. last fall after a batting average of .388 I got cut. same thing happens to my brother. He made the freshman team and was the ace of the freshmen staff. he missed almost all of his sophmore year with a torn labrum but pitched in the summer and last fall. Last fall after only pitching 20 innings he had an ERA under 1.50, mind you, the head coach of that team is a former Cubs prospect back in the '80's. last week the school held their 2012 baseball tryouts. my brother was shafted from varsity and the "pitcher" who got a varsity spot over him only has 6 career high school innings and some how the varsity coach thinks he is varsity material. Even as of yesterday the varsity team had a schrimage against Darien High School, the "pitcher" who got a varsity spot over him gave up 7 earned runs in one inning. My brother has never given up 7 runs in a single season. the sad part is, there are those who say we both deserve to be shafted from our respective teams, yet there are those in the professional baseball say we are both very good ballplayers. high school sports in this area are a complete shame.
Worst Coach Smithville

United States

#49 Apr 20, 2012
I am so glad that there are others out there that will speak out. We have the worst coach in the history of the school. It is nothing but politics on who you are and none of how you play. Seniors never finish because they are not allowed to play. They may have a position for the first three years and come senior year they sit on the bench. Coach says that he has too many kids to tell them what their role is! Excuse me, I thought that was what he was being paid for. We are out of there before he can play head games with our son. If the parents were smart - they would pull all the kids and push him out. He is totally worthless .. knows nothing ... and has a big ego. Even thinks that kids that are punished for drinking and drugs should get their varsity position back. Hello....if they were good players and he was a good role model, do you think that they would have been out doing what clearly was not allowed? What a shame and a waste of time for both kids and parents. Like "bewildered" ego and politics. How sad for the youth of today to have such a looser.
Mistreated

Richmond, VA

#50 Feb 7, 2013
My son attends Alpharetta High School in Alpharetta, Georgia. He did not make the JV team yet he is clearly more qualified than some of the boys who did. One boy's father actually coaches the Freshman team and the father isn't even a faculty member. The boy is clearly not a baseball player yet he made the team only because his father coaches the freshmen. On kid's dad holds a position on the Dugout Club Board and he is no better than my son yet he made the team. It is very apparent to me that the Head Coach is strongly influenced by the amount of money and ass-kissing he receives from parents. What a crying shame! My son gets tossed aside because my nose isn't up the coaches ass. This who issue of HS sports politics is terrible. There should be measures in place that prevent this from happening. Boys should be evaluated by an outside coach who doesn't know the boys or the parents. He should be the one to select the team based solely on his observations. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
Diamond

Houston, TX

#51 Mar 5, 2013
We're dealing with the same "politics" thing on my son's HS baseball team. There are 8 freshman players on my son's HS team that previously played on a "certain" select league team (the coach's son was on it and a former major leaguers son was also on it), 6 of which straight to JV and 2 to Sophomore Blue.
My son did make the team but is on Sophomore White. He is definately a better player than 3 of these players and is as good or better than 2 more of them. However, I admit that the other 3 players are outstanding players and deserve to be there. As you know it gets harder & harder each year to make the team because you can "play up" but not "play down" in grade. I can see the writing on the wall that by my son's Junior or Senior year (maybe even next year) he may not make the team because these players will get special treatment/consideration. I just tell my son to do his best and if he doesn't make the team in the coming year(s) he can always play in one of the community leagues or in what they call the "Power League/Second Chance League" that are operting in our area. It's a damn shame that players on teams are not put together based on merit/ability alone but I guess that's life. The best thing any player can do is just try his hardest, keep playing no matter where or what team they are on and the cream will eventually rise to the top if it's meant to be. Proof of the politics is when we played a rival school that has some of my son's former little league teammates. This school is smaller and actually had to ask 2 players to play that didn't even try-out so they could field 3 teams (our school has 4 teams). This team didn't just beat us; they beat us bad! Sorry for being so "wordy" but it feels better to get this off my chest.
Dylan

Winter Haven, FL

#52 Mar 15, 2013
At my school we have a problem with the jv baseball coach using politics to run his line up and field. What happens is, people will form groups. these groups are the parents of those who are not good enough to start. sooner or later this group of parents will have them a "little meating" with the coach. Ever since the weak minded coach feels obligated to play the kids of the bitching parents. For example im 5 for 10 batting 500 with 3 doubles 2 singles 3 walks and 2 ground outs. only one kid has more hits, but that's because he bats 4 times or more a game. I bat maybe once every other game. The whole team is beginning to question why I don't play and so is the varsity players who watch out games and have seen to me go warning track power to score the winning run. some of you mite question, why do they pick you to sit instead of some other kid. because I play the position of one of the richest people in my countys child. We both play Left field. This kid FUCKING sucks!!! Error after error strike out after strike out... but I sit the bench unless he pitches and it makes room for me someone els to play left field
Dec25Kid

Keauhou, HI

#53 Mar 16, 2013
That's exactly what we're seeing, except it's in Baseball. The coach is the new kid on the block. It's not that my son doesn't have talent - he's good! The coach will not play him and we are not sure why, but my son has the season to play out and the coach is way too sensitive to comments. And... it's my son's senior year. He was hoping for a scholarship, but just don't know because it's too early in this short season.
Porter

Poughkeepsie, NY

#54 Apr 5, 2013
I never missed a game and I did stats on every ballplayer. The Coaches kid batted .409 and batted clean-up. Ass't. Coach's kid batted 3rd and hit .327 My son batted 2nd and hit .596 Led the team in homers and RBI's from the 2-hole.----As a Frosh in HS he played JV and won 3 of the 4 victories the team had. At the team dinner, another pitcher, with perhaps the only other victory, was announced as "the winningest pitcher". My son asked me, WHY DAD ? I said that kids mother raises more money and is more active in the fundraising.--- That's how things roll. My son has lost interest in playing and that was that.
It's about the politics.
Sayville Baseball

Oakdale, NY

#55 Apr 16, 2013
This season I have witnessed some of the worst coaching at the JV level imagine able . Two 8th graders were brought up onto the team with out the Saville High School coaches ever watching a game these kids played in. They were brought up simply on here say in the town by people who really don't understand the game at all. One of the kids was put into the lead off role on the team and currently ( 1/2 season over ) has an on base average of about .082. With many misplayed balls in the outfield. The other has pitched 3 starts going a total of 7 innings with 14 walks and given up 15 runs. Neither one is mature enough, smart enough or good enough to be in JV baseball, but somehow they are. If that doesn't scream politics I don't know what does.
Michelle

Battle Creek, MI

#56 Apr 16, 2013
Just wondering wrote:
Recently a local high school had baseball tryouts. After the cuts were over, one kid made the J.V. team that some of the Varsity players were questioning. They did not understand how this kid made the team over 2 kids that were better and had made the middle school team the 2 previous years. It came out over the weekend that not only was the kid in question the coach's next door neighbor (two houses down), but that his father had made a $400 donation to the "baseball club". My question is: I know that players cannot accept gifts and money, is it against the rules for the "head" coach to receive gifts in exchange for favors.

Yes it is... As a matter of fact it is most common for coaches to accept a kid that doesn't play well verses a kid that does, I know plenty of coaches that will find some way to ruin a good kids talent if the parents don't have money! It should be against the law, a lot of kids get unnoticed because they sit the bench and don't play!! It's really unfair
Michelle

Battle Creek, MI

#57 Apr 16, 2013
Disappointed Mom wrote:
I was warned about politics in high school sports, but today I got to see it for myself. Coaches constantly give lip service to the importance of showing up for all practices, giving 110%, and displaying a great attitude. My daughter did all these things AND is a skilled athlete. Try-outs lasted two days and she did awesome(softball).Guess who made varsity? The player who never showed for summer practices, never came to batting practice(because her parents didn't like the owner of the Sandlot), and was very verbal with telling other players that if she did not make varsity then she was not going to play at all. Yes, you guessed it...this is the girl who made the varsity softball team. Now when my daughter, who plays as well as this girl, asks me why, do I tell her? All I can say is there will come a time when Mommy won,t be there to fight, pay,kiss butt for this girl, and she will have no idea how to be successful.Coaches, shame on you! And parents of this girl...you must be so proud.(not)
My kid is a senior and freshman and sophomores play before he does! Yes we have freshman and underclassmen playing before a senior because their parents dished out money for our fields or for our banners it's just really blows my mind he plays one game In right field six innings, then he doesn't finish he gets pulled bottom of fifth for someone to bat for him, they strike out same for football my son who is a athlete in so many ways gets unnoticed even in football .. And of course he asked the coach why am I not playing? The coach responds I really couldn't tell you! I was floored .... This kid would do 120% practice work hard after practice run a few miles never gave up , while underclassmen received awards that my son was suppose to recieve it just upset him even more!! I'm not just saying this cause I'm his parent but other parents couldn't believe it either .... We parents pay for play like $50.00 anyway, and ofcorse drinks and snacks on away games, but to sit there and watch another kid get something cause parents forked out more money just bothers me..... Even when we set up a meeting with the athletic director the coach just lied acted arrogant and it just isn't right my sons baseball as a senior has left him frustrated and parents should be ashamed ... My son was getting looked at in practices from other college coaches that were basically there looking at other kids and they were asking about my son, it just goes to show you that it happens everywhere and my son will be a walk on at a college but it has put a dent In what he has been taught on how baseball and football is played and who is important and who's not!! It's just sad....
Player

Poway, CA

#58 Apr 16, 2013
I play softball and I've played it for over 6 years now. This year I'm a senior.
I'm a catcher and I'm a damn good one. Last year I put up with so much crap the head coach was dishing out at me. She hated my blocking for some reason--which was fine. I averaged 1-2 passed balls per game and barely any stolen baces.

This year our head coach had to decline being the head coach because she was being promoted so she wouldn't have enough time to coach this year. So great, I thought. Boy was I wrong. Since I'm a senior I've been hunted down by many coaches offering my scholarships and such. So I'd think that's a good sign righ? Well the new head coach which was our previous assistant coach didn't think so. Basically during try outs she never even glanced at me. Never even gave me an opportunity to catch any of the pitchers. Finally it's the last day if tryouts and she pulls me asside she and the other assistant coach from last year want to chat with me. They basically they told me I had too many passed balls, too many people stealing on me, they expected me to change my style of catching, told me I had bad listing skills, and said I'd sit bench mostly and I just might get to play. Well apparently they wernt looking at their stats from last year. I played damn good last year and put up with their crap.

They gave me 2 options: 1) sit bench 2) quit. I quit.
Come to find out they gave the catching position to a sophomore who paied the coach to giver her catching lessons. So basically she bought her way into the position. Give me a brake! She's a nice girl and all bit seriously. Her average passed balls and stolen baces out weigh mine and they just barely started Leag.

(These coaches are all teachers)
looking for answers

Uniontown, PA

#59 May 2, 2013
All good stories. very simular to my son's situation. What course of action to take as a parent?
EyesWideOpen

Chattanooga, TN

#60 Jun 3, 2013
Unfortunately, this begins in Middle School/Jr. High in some states. We relocated from another state to one in TN. I have no issues with the best student/athletes making teams. NOTE - I said STUDENT/Athlete. In other words, there may be other reasons a "better" player doesn't make the squad. These include grades or other disciplinary (fighting/drugs/alchohol...etc .)reasons. Initially, I figured he got cut because no one really knew him as a baseball player. I went to a couple of their games, they are a good team, but only 3 or 4 of the players are better than my son and 1 or 2 about the same level. The MS team has 24 players....and practically ALL of them play for the same team in the summer. They only had a 2 hour tryout in the spring so it's a tough sell telling me the team isn't already selected before try outs. The joke's on them though as most of the 8th grade kids are going to several different PRIVATE high schools next year and will never see the diamond for the PUBLIC high school! LOL!
Evan

Liverpool, NY

#61 Aug 20, 2013
I tried out for Jv as a pitcher, threw as hard as the other kids, and twice as accurate. More hits, attended camps, etc. the pitcher who made the team over me batted .108 and won't 0-6 with an era of 7! In my allstar league, I went 9-0 with a 0.0 era!
Single mom

Bohemia, NY

#62 Sep 15, 2013
Sayville Baseball wrote:
This season I have witnessed some of the worst coaching at the JV level imagine able . Two 8th graders were brought up onto the team with out the Saville High School coaches ever watching a game these kids played in. They were brought up simply on here say in the town by people who really don't understand the game at all. One of the kids was put into the lead off role on the team and currently ( 1/2 season over ) has an on base average of about .082. With many misplayed balls in the outfield. The other has pitched 3 starts going a total of 7 innings with 14 walks and given up 15 runs. Neither one is mature enough, smart enough or good enough to be in JV baseball, but somehow they are. If that doesn't scream politics I don't know what does.
Just wondering? Is the coach of this team Cisek?? If so then you are screwed. He has no good knowledge of Baseball. Real BAD coach

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