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#1 Jun 26, 2012
What do you think about them?
mamaw

Memphis, TN

#2 Jul 1, 2012
faith wrote:
What do you think about them?
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trouble makers,christian hater's,jew hater's,islam hater's.

hard to find anybody they like who may believe in any form of religion
Auntie Theist

United States

#3 Sep 22, 2012
mamaw wrote:
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trouble makers,christian hater's,jew hater's,islam hater's.
hard to find anybody they like who may believe in any form of religion
They believe that all religions are a source of conflict.
They believe that by inventing a supernatural being which only your group worships, you exclude all other groups and humans.
They believe that by setting yourself above others, you degrade humanity.
They believe that by allowing a religion into Government, we exclude all other religions and all other humans.
This has been tried throughout history in many countries with disastrous consequences - America is unique in having avoided such conflicts.
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United States

#4 Sep 23, 2012
A group that tries to take our FREEDOM.
guest42

United States

#5 Sep 23, 2012
They are just troublemakers looking to cause trouble! The cross in whiteville wasn't hurting anyone!!!!! They don't have any problems spending that money that says "In God We Trust"!!!! If u don't like it don't look! If u don't want to participate then don't! But u don't have to take away everything we believe in just cause u don't believe! Prayer in school and the pledge in school was optional. If u didn't want to say it then u didn't have to but yet now no one can say it! WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
hmm

Stanton, TN

#6 Sep 23, 2012
guest42 wrote:
They are just troublemakers looking to cause trouble! The cross in whiteville wasn't hurting anyone!!!!! They don't have any problems spending that money that says "In God We Trust"!!!! If u don't like it don't look! If u don't want to participate then don't! But u don't have to take away everything we believe in just cause u don't believe! Prayer in school and the pledge in school was optional. If u didn't want to say it then u didn't have to but yet now no one can say it! WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
Tenn. Code Ann.ยง 49-6-1001
Just letting you ALL know---recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools of Tennessee, is STILL optional!!!
guest42

United States

#7 Sep 23, 2012
I know its optional and my kids still recite it but most won't continue it because too many people are complaining and causing a big fuss!!!!!! If you don't believe in God then that's all you but to all those who do believe it's also our right!!!!!!
guest

United States

#8 Sep 23, 2012
So you mean to tell me if they put an Islamic symbol on the water tower it wouldn't have bothered you at all? Or a Buddhist symbol? Or a Catholic symbol? Or an atheist symbol? You just wouldn't have looked at it, right? You wouldn't have raised hell until it was removed? You just wouldn't have participated. No, of course not. You would have demanded it be removed because it was not a symbol of your religion. But everyone else is supposed to bow down to anything Christian? You don't believe in religious freedom. You believe in religious freedom so long as the religion is Christianity. So sorry to tell you this but not everyone is a Christian & this is still the United States. There is no government religion; therefore, constitutionally, there can be no government mandate or support of any religion. No religious symbols on government property (including water towers). No requiring people to worship or pay homage to a particular deity (i.e., pledge of allegiance's line about "under God" which FYI wasn't added until the 1950s).

You think that that's a bad thing? Then go try living in a country that does have a national religion that tells you how to worship & when & punishes you if you don't. Then you might have a different opinion and might see why having a system where government does not impose any religion on anyone is better.

The prayer and pledge of allegiance in school: the problem there is that the public school system is government funded and government run, so same rules to religious freedom apply. You don't like it? Send your kid to a private school.
hmm

Stanton, TN

#9 Sep 23, 2012
guest wrote:
So you mean to tell me if they put an Islamic symbol on the water tower it wouldn't have bothered you at all? Or a Buddhist symbol? Or a Catholic symbol? Or an atheist symbol? You just wouldn't have looked at it, right? You wouldn't have raised hell until it was removed? You just wouldn't have participated. No, of course not. You would have demanded it be removed because it was not a symbol of your religion. But everyone else is supposed to bow down to anything Christian? You don't believe in religious freedom. You believe in religious freedom so long as the religion is Christianity. So sorry to tell you this but not everyone is a Christian & this is still the United States. There is no government religion; therefore, constitutionally, there can be no government mandate or support of any religion. No religious symbols on government property (including water towers). No requiring people to worship or pay homage to a particular deity (i.e., pledge of allegiance's line about "under God" which FYI wasn't added until the 1950s).

You think that that's a bad thing? Then go try living in a country that does have a national religion that tells you how to worship & when & punishes you if you don't. Then you might have a different opinion and might see why having a system where government does not impose any religion on anyone is better.

The prayer and pledge of allegiance in school: the problem there is that the public school system is government funded and government run, so same rules to religious freedom apply. You don't like it? Send your kid to a private school.
I am a Christian, but I totally believe in separation of church and state. What happens when a territory is predominantly Islamic and they decide to incorporate their religious symbolism on public property and in public schools? If we allow one religion to do it, then we are forced to allow all religions to display their loyalty. Plus, I don't particularly agree with ALL Christians. With al this being said, FFrF has spiteful and vengeful motives, and I DO NOT support them either. You cannot live life in this hate-filled manner, nor is your problem solved by prosecuting small towns and receiving money. Money is NOT the solution to any problem--EVER!
hmm

Stanton, TN

#10 Sep 23, 2012
hmm wrote:
<quoted text>I am a Christian, but I totally believe in separation of church and state. What happens when a territory is predominantly Islamic and they decide to incorporate their religious symbolism on public property and in public schools? If we allow one religion to do it, then we are forced to allow all religions to display their loyalty. Plus, I don't particularly agree with ALL Christians. With al this being said, FFrF has spiteful and vengeful motives, and I DO NOT support them either. You cannot live life in this hate-filled manner, nor is your problem solved by prosecuting small towns and receiving money. Money is NOT the solution to any problem--EVER!
*all
guest42

United States

#11 Sep 23, 2012
guest wrote:
So you mean to tell me if they put an Islamic symbol on the water tower it wouldn't have bothered you at all? Or a Buddhist symbol? Or a Catholic symbol? Or an atheist symbol? You just wouldn't have looked at it, right? You wouldn't have raised hell until it was removed? You just wouldn't have participated. No, of course not. You would have demanded it be removed because it was not a symbol of your religion. But everyone else is supposed to bow down to anything Christian? You don't believe in religious freedom. You believe in religious freedom so long as the religion is Christianity. So sorry to tell you this but not everyone is a Christian & this is still the United States. There is no government religion; therefore, constitutionally, there can be no government mandate or support of any religion. No religious symbols on government property (including water towers). No requiring people to worship or pay homage to a particular deity (i.e., pledge of allegiance's line about "under God" which FYI wasn't added until the 1950s).

You think that that's a bad thing? Then go try living in a country that does have a national religion that tells you how to worship & when & punishes you if you don't. Then you might have a different opinion and might see why having a system where government does not impose any religion on anyone is better.

The prayer and pledge of allegiance in school: the problem there is that the public school system is government funded and government run, so same rules to religious freedom apply. You don't like it? Send your kid to a private school.
The problem is people like you trying to remove God out of everything!!!!!! If I wanted my kids to go to a private school they would but they are fine in a PUBLIC school and if they want to pray then they will. If they want to pledge then they will. If your kid doesn't want to participate then that's fine but don't try to keep my kids from doing it just cause you don't believe!!!!!! My kids are Christians and they will not be swayed any other way. My kids don't tell anyone else what to believe so I don't expect your people to tell mine what to believe! That's what is wrong with this country now that yall are trying to take God out of everything!!!!!!!!!
guest

United States

#12 Sep 23, 2012
guest42 wrote:
<quoted text>The problem is people like you trying to remove God out of everything!!!!!! If I wanted my kids to go to a private school they would but they are fine in a PUBLIC school and if they want to pray then they will. If they want to pledge then they will. If your kid doesn't want to participate then that's fine but don't try to keep my kids from doing it just cause you don't believe!!!!!! My kids are Christians and they will not be swayed any other way. My kids don't tell anyone else what to believe so I don't expect your people to tell mine what to believe! That's what is wrong with this country now that yall are trying to take God out of everything!!!!!!!!!

Again, you're missing the point. No one is trying to stop you from exercising your religious freedom. If your children want to pray in school then they can do so personally, but every child in the school cannot be forced to participate in the prayer. If your children want to participate in the Pledge then they are free to do so, but you cannot force every child to recite it. Your children go to public school; therefore, this is the reality. It's not about taking God out of anything. It's about respecting the individual, religious freedoms of everyone. You're making my point for me. You're only for freedom of religion if the religion advocated is Christianity, but the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects ALL religions. The problem with this country is not people like me, it's people like you. People that want to impose their views on everyone else. People that cannot respect other person's beliefs. I completely respect your right to be a Christian; however, you don't support my right to be an atheist. You're angry at me because I'm not a Christian and don't just gladly accept having Christianity shoved down my throat. My comment about private school was not meant to offend you. It was meant to say that you have options to government provided education if the way the government runs the school is so offensive to you.
guest42

United States

#13 Sep 23, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Again, you're missing the point. No one is trying to stop you from exercising your religious freedom. If your children want to pray in school then they can do so personally, but every child in the school cannot be forced to participate in the prayer. If your children want to participate in the Pledge then they are free to do so, but you cannot force every child to recite it. Your children go to public school; therefore, this is the reality. It's not about taking God out of anything. It's about respecting the individual, religious freedoms of everyone. You're making my point for me. You're only for freedom of religion if the religion advocated is Christianity, but the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects ALL religions. The problem with this country is not people like me, it's people like you. People that want to impose their views on everyone else. People that cannot respect other person's beliefs. I completely respect your right to be a Christian; however, you don't support my right to be an atheist. You're angry at me because I'm not a Christian and don't just gladly accept having Christianity shoved down my throat. My comment about private school was not meant to offend you. It was meant to say that you have options to government provided education if the way the government runs the school is so offensive to you.
And u have options to send your child to private schools also!!!!! Although I'm a Christian I don't impose my beliefs on everyone else. Like I said if your child doesn't want to participate he doesn't have to! No one ever forced a kid to recite something he/she didn't want to! It has always been a choice!!!!!!!! It's the atheist that are throwing a fit! No other groups are throwing fits!!!!!!!!!! My point again is IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR CHILD TO PARTICIPATE THEN SPEAK UP!!!!!! THE OTHER CHILDREN DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AND ITS BEEN DONE FOR YEARS IN SCHOOL SO WHY THROW A FIT NOW!!!!!!!!!! CHILDISH!!!!!!!
Mindy

Waupaca, WI

#14 Sep 24, 2012
Im a christian and I don't have a problem with any other religions! I believe that all people should be able to believe what they will. I know where my children and myself stand with the views of our Lord and that's all that matters. I dont agree with them taking the cross off the watertower....if they wanted any other symbol atop the watertower then fine....add it up there beside our cross, but don't just take it away from us b/c you don't like it. People wonder why the world is like is today....I can tell you.....BECAUSE GOD IS NOT IN THEIR LIVES!! I don't down you if you don't belive, I'm just saying that life has so many more blessing when you do love in the LORD!!!! But again....you have the options of your own beliefs....
guest42

United States

#15 Sep 24, 2012
Mindy wrote:
Im a christian and I don't have a problem with any other religions! I believe that all people should be able to believe what they will. I know where my children and myself stand with the views of our Lord and that's all that matters. I dont agree with them taking the cross off the watertower....if they wanted any other symbol atop the watertower then fine....add it up there beside our cross, but don't just take it away from us b/c you don't like it. People wonder why the world is like is today....I can tell you.....BECAUSE GOD IS NOT IN THEIR LIVES!! I don't down you if you don't belive, I'm just saying that life has so many more blessing when you do love in the LORD!!!! But again....you have the options of your own beliefs....
Exactly!!!!!!! Well said!!!!!
Auntie Theist

United States

#16 Sep 24, 2012
[QUOTE who=":)"]A group that tries to take our FREEDOM.[/QUOTE]

They support freedom..........the freedom to worship whatever you choose as long as you don't take someone else's freedom by imposing it on them.
Auntie Theist

United States

#17 Sep 24, 2012
guest42 wrote:
They are just troublemakers looking to cause trouble! The cross in whiteville wasn't hurting anyone!!!!! They don't have any problems spending that money that says "In God We Trust"!!!! If u don't like it don't look! If u don't want to participate then don't! But u don't have to take away everything we believe in just cause u don't believe! Prayer in school and the pledge in school was optional. If u didn't want to say it then u didn't have to but yet now no one can say it! WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
Can't you understand that the cross was hurting someone? It was hurting someone who had to pay for it against their will. Government cannot use our tax dollars to pay for the Islamic religion (or yours.)
Auntie Theist

United States

#18 Sep 24, 2012
hmm wrote:
<quoted text>
I am a Christian, but I totally believe in separation of church and state. What happens when a territory is predominantly Islamic and they decide to incorporate their religious symbolism on public property and in public schools? If we allow one religion to do it, then we are forced to allow all religions to display their loyalty. Plus, I don't particularly agree with ALL Christians. With al this being said, FFrF has spiteful and vengeful motives, and I DO NOT support them either. You cannot live life in this hate-filled manner, nor is your problem solved by prosecuting small towns and receiving money. Money is NOT the solution to any problem--EVER!
FFRF received no money nor did they request any!
Auntie Theist

United States

#19 Sep 24, 2012
Mindy wrote:
Im a christian and I don't have a problem with any other religions! I believe that all people should be able to believe what they will. I know where my children and myself stand with the views of our Lord and that's all that matters. I dont agree with them taking the cross off the watertower....if they wanted any other symbol atop the watertower then fine....add it up there beside our cross, but don't just take it away from us b/c you don't like it. People wonder why the world is like is today....I can tell you.....BECAUSE GOD IS NOT IN THEIR LIVES!! I don't down you if you don't belive, I'm just saying that life has so many more blessing when you do love in the LORD!!!! But again....you have the options of your own beliefs....
I want the Flying Spaghetti Monster on the water tower!
guest42

United States

#20 Sep 24, 2012
That cross wasn't hurting anyone! And you weren't paying for it! It didn't cost a dime for that cross to be there!

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