Suspected car thief fires when confro...

Suspected car thief fires when confronted

There are 40 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Nov 19, 2007, titled Suspected car thief fires when confronted. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

A man who police think might be behind a string of vehicle thefts in Marion, Boone and Johnson counties fired a gun into the air after an Eagle Township homeowner confronted him outside her home Sunday.

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sealionindy

United States

#2 Nov 20, 2007
Fortunately he fired in the air and hopefully no one was underneath when the bullet came down. (if there was one).
dwm

AOL

#4 Nov 20, 2007
it's time to arm ourselves. let's stop this madness.
Gene Autry for President

Greenfield, IN

#5 Nov 20, 2007
3 Big mistakes.
#1 No gun in the home for protection
#2 Confronting an intruder with no protection.
#3 Leaving your car unlocked
Thankfully, she can "Live and learn"
dwm

AOL

#6 Nov 20, 2007
gene autry always keep his side arm close by
Gene Autry for President

Greenfield, IN

#7 Nov 20, 2007
dwm wrote:
gene autry always keep his side arm close by
Riding the range once more, totin my old 44 !
CCW Carrier

Sellersburg, IN

#8 Nov 20, 2007
ANYONE NOT exercising their 2nd Ammendment RIGHT, is an IDIOT.
Gene Autry for President

Greenfield, IN

#9 Nov 20, 2007
Police Officers are a blessing to society, but in that 3 to 5 minute gap from the 911 call to arriving on scene, is OUR responsibility. You can either hide and wait or protect yourself. Do one or the other, but do it right either way.
anon

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Nov 20, 2007
since this guy is clearly dangerous, can we get a description?
Sarkes Tarzian

Kaukauna, WI

#11 Nov 20, 2007
You can't go out in your driveway and kill a car thief can you? Maybe this one, but what if the theif is unarmed? I am askin'...
Scientist in Indy

United States

#12 Nov 20, 2007
If anyone comes on my property and I feel threatened he will die. I don't ask questions. If someone is breaking into my vehicle and I catch them, too bad for them..
jtd

Memphis, TN

#13 Nov 20, 2007
Can we get a descirption of this fellow?
Reg

Duncan, OK

#14 Nov 20, 2007
In Indiana, you are usually justified in using deadly force if you are in fear for your life and/or great bodily harm.

You are also usually justified in using deadly force to protect a 3rd party from death/great bodily harm.

I can't recall if use of deadly force is justified in protecting property or not, but something in my memory tells me that it is.

Sarkes Tarzian brings up a decent point in his post above... One of the "gray areas" that all the circumstantial evidence would be in play. If I, as a 6'3", 265lb guy were to approach someone (say 5'10" and 200lbs) in my car and they turned towards me and took a few steps... If they were unarmed and not overtly threatening me, I'd probably be up a crap creek if I used my weapon. However, if a 5'1 100lb woman approached the same guy and the guy took a few steps towards her...different scenario if SHE pulled the trigger. "disparity of force" is the usual jargon in describing a situation like that.

Even if someone is 100% justified in shooting in self defence, with no chance in the world of criminal or civil charges, it's still a very tough call. Personally, I don't think that I'd be inclined to do it over a car. My crappy Alero isn't worth a lifetime of associated pain and guilt that follows (As I've read).

In my apartment, though, and someone's likely to get 1-3 .40 155 grain Federal jacketed hollow points, traveling at 1000fps, in their chest. NOT my definition of a good day.
Gene Autry for President

Greenfield, IN

#18 Nov 20, 2007
Sarkes Tarzian wrote:
You can't go out in your driveway and kill a car thief can you? Maybe this one, but what if the theif is unarmed? I am askin'...
Normally not, but this guy fired a weapon in the commision of a crime. His warning shot was in the air, but mine (15 to be exact) would be to center mass. Hello, Quincy?:)
Gene Autry for President

Greenfield, IN

#19 Nov 20, 2007
Liberal Tammy wrote:
My eldery aunt lives in a rural area by herself (a widow). One late night a man was knocking on her door. When she asked who it was he would not answer. The man then turned the door knob to try to get in. The door was lock so he walked around to the back door which was also locked. My aunt called police and then her neighbor down the road. The neighbor (an retired Marine) rushed to my aunt's aid. When he drove into her yard the man was walking toward her picture window with a large rock in his hands to break in. Her neighbor jumped from his truck, pointed his gun on the man and order him to halt. He made the guy handcuff himself to the porch railing and waited for the cops to show up. Nearly 30 minutes after my aunt called, the police arrived. I'm not criticizing the police. My aunt lives in a rural area and the closest cop was on the other side of the county at the time. My aunt then bought a shotgun and a handgun. She learned to use them and is ready to defend herself if need be. The man who tried to get her has a very long criminal history that includes, robbery, assault and rape. Our justice system has been ruined by soft on crime liberals. At one time in this country, violent criminal would have recieved a long prison sentence. This guy had never served a full year in prison even for rape and armed robbery. He is on the street this very day. People, the liberals have ruined criminal sentencing. The cops can't be there when the crime is being commited they are there after the fact. Criminals are free to terrorize again and again and again. Arm yourselves and practice with your weapon on a regular basis. We all know that liberals tell us when confronted by a criminal to be a good victim and do what the crimianl says. BULL!!! It's time more people fight back. If a citizen kills a criminal they should be given a good citizen award by their local prosecutor and/or police agency.
I think I have found my long lost Sister !:) Amen Tammy
Idiots

Indianapolis, IN

#21 Nov 20, 2007
Who are these idiots confronting these dangerous folks unarmed? Why are they confronting them at all? Call the cops, let them deal with these thugs. I don't think it is worth getting shot, and maybe die as a result, just to protect a dumb car. That is what insurance is for.
Go Elsewhere for News

United States

#22 Nov 20, 2007
anon wrote:
since this guy is clearly dangerous, can we get a description?
If you want real news, you have to go to WTHR ( http://www.wthr.com )or WRTV's ( http://www.theindychannel.com ) websites. The description is as follows:

"He's described as white, with a large build, about 6 feet tall with thinning hair."

Apparently the Star has a stupid editorial policy where it will not describe suspects. If the Star isn't going to provide Indianapolis residents with information that's helpful to them, they might as well shut down operations.
Gene Autry for President

Greenfield, IN

#23 Nov 20, 2007
Morgan Barber wrote:
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Advise your aunt to allow the intruder to break in next time and make sure that the last thing the criminal sees is her big grin right before she scatters his she-it in the wind.
I LIKE your style! Some days I think I'm the only one that would give em a case of "Glockcoma" :)

“Vote or Shut it!”

Since: Oct 07

Sasparilla

#24 Nov 20, 2007
Sounds like Zionseville needs to hire a few Trinity security guards.

Shoot first...let your lawyer figure out the rest. Sleep sound.
Gene Autry for President

Greenfield, IN

#25 Nov 20, 2007
Go Elsewhere for News wrote:
<quoted text>
If you want real news, you have to go to WTHR ( http://www.wthr.com )or WRTV's ( http://www.theindychannel.com ) websites. The description is as follows:
"He's described as white, with a large build, about 6 feet tall with thinning hair."
Apparently the Star has a stupid editorial policy where it will not describe suspects. If the Star isn't going to provide Indianapolis residents with information that's helpful to them, they might as well shut down operations.
Don't describe suspects, they might be a member of the City County Council. Give em time to retain a Laywer, and an aliby.
Robert

United States

#26 Nov 20, 2007
Hey, if you're going to confront a burglar or robber, bring a gun. The weapon of choice is a shot gun -- you don't need a lot of accuracy, just the nerve to pull the trigger. When criminals know that folks will come after them with loaded weapons, they'll move out. Look at Kennesaw, Georgia -- they have weapons in that town and crime has gone way down!

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