Who do you support for U.S. Senate in West Virginia in 2010?

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<quoted text> State assault weapons ban don't matter when all you have to do is drive 6 hours to a gun show to purchase one. Background checks should include mental history, and the records should be kept not destroyed. Insurance wouldn't be a bad idea for gun owners either. You just hold on to your gun, aka your phallus, and let the real men and women deal with this nonsense. You will survive without your assault rifle. Some children won't survive the next slaughter. Have some compassion and stop being a paranoid pussy.
A deranged psycho doesnt need an assault rifle to slaughter children, look at Tim McVeigh. He is another example: The first mass killing of schoolchildren in the US, which took place in the small town of Bath, Michigan, in 1927, and left 45 people dead, including 38 children. An eccentric farmer named Andrew Kehoe, upset about an increase in property taxes meant to pay for the new Bath Consolidated School, spent months packing the school with dynamite. He set it off on the morning of May 18 with a timed detonator.

I agree with background checks and closing loopholes, but banning assault weapons will not stop crazy people from killing. It will make you feel like you did something, but in reality it accomplishes nothing other than taking rights away from law abiding gun owners.

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The only constant in this short life is change!.

change can be good or bad -balance is most often included in the healthier change -to swing one way or another toooo far is most often calamatus/damaging to a positive social fabric.

We are not talking about social security or medicare which have been paid for as they have been already taken from peoples earnings..

But changing to a largely ,slovenly, uneducated dependent nation overwhelmed by children w/o fathers in the home -largely unwed single mothers often with multiple kids -many with no real education or means to take care of them-not only causes social chaos[look at our overburdened jails]-but also economic chaos as smaller proportions of working people are being forced to economically subsidize all--'these babies mommas daddies and other daddies babies mammas,etc,etc,

I am not begrudging people who need temporary help and use some welfare services to better educate themselves for a period of time. BUT-there are scores of deadbeats out there who feel entitled to sit home and watch Springer or Maury Povich's comedy of horrors while collecting more"FREE TO THEM" money for each bastard child they produce on hard working peoples backs. It is morally wrong for this permanent dependecy to exist for lazy people with little self control-[of all races]-it will exponentially spreadlike rabid cancer

This is the type of change that will bring the U.S. closer and ever closer to 3rd world type living..making the new majority[a sheep voting block] but ever truly dumber and ever more dependent w/o incentive to go out and survive on their own at higher more personally rewarding levels in this short earthly life,

This is change that will help destroy-this great country as we know it - from within.

Idea-stop rewarding poor judgement and horribly irresponsible behavior--THIS CHANGE BRINGS NO HOPE-ONLY AN EVER LESS EDUCATED LAZY POPULATION WHO ARE LIKE ETERNAL CHILDREN

MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA
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Jan 23, 2013
 
cherokee mountain lady wrote:
The only constant in this short life is change!.
change can be good or bad -balance is most often included in the healthier change -to swing one way or another toooo far is most often calamatus/damaging to a positive social fabric.
We are not talking about social security or medicare which have been paid for as they have been already taken from peoples earnings..
But changing to a largely ,slovenly, uneducated dependent nation overwhelmed by children w/o fathers in the home -largely unwed single mothers often with multiple kids -many with no real education or means to take care of them-not only causes social chaos[look at our overburdened jails]-but also economic chaos as smaller proportions of working people are being forced to economically subsidize all--'these babies mommas daddies and other daddies babies mammas,etc,etc,
I am not begrudging people who need temporary help and use some welfare services to better educate themselves for a period of time. BUT-there are scores of deadbeats out there who feel entitled to sit home and watch Springer or Maury Povich's comedy of horrors while collecting more"FREE TO THEM" money for each bastard child they produce on hard working peoples backs. It is morally wrong for this permanent dependecy to exist for lazy people with little self control-[of all races]-it will exponentially spreadlike rabid cancer
This is the type of change that will bring the U.S. closer and ever closer to 3rd world type living..making the new majority[a sheep voting block] but ever truly dumber and ever more dependent w/o incentive to go out and survive on their own at higher more personally rewarding levels in this short earthly life,
This is change that will help destroy-this great country as we know it - from within.
Idea-stop rewarding poor judgement and horribly irresponsible behavior--THIS CHANGE BRINGS NO HOPE-ONLY AN EVER LESS EDUCATED LAZY POPULATION WHO ARE LIKE ETERNAL CHILDREN
MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA
. Yea forget the fact that you have to work to get assistance. All of problems would be solved if people were less lazy. Maybe we should look at wages, and stop focusing on the poor.
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Jan 23, 2013
 
cherokee mountain lady wrote:
The only constant in this short life is change!.
change can be good or bad -balance is most often included in the healthier change -to swing one way or another toooo far is most often calamatus/damaging to a positive social fabric.
We are not talking about social security or medicare which have been paid for as they have been already taken from peoples earnings..
But changing to a largely ,slovenly, uneducated dependent nation overwhelmed by children w/o fathers in the home -largely unwed single mothers often with multiple kids -many with no real education or means to take care of them-not only causes social chaos[look at our overburdened jails]-but also economic chaos as smaller proportions of working people are being forced to economically subsidize all--'these babies mommas daddies and other daddies babies mammas,etc,etc,
I am not begrudging people who need temporary help and use some welfare services to better educate themselves for a period of time. BUT-there are scores of deadbeats out there who feel entitled to sit home and watch Springer or Maury Povich's comedy of horrors while collecting more"FREE TO THEM" money for each bastard child they produce on hard working peoples backs. It is morally wrong for this permanent dependecy to exist for lazy people with little self control-[of all races]-it will exponentially spreadlike rabid cancer
This is the type of change that will bring the U.S. closer and ever closer to 3rd world type living..making the new majority[a sheep voting block] but ever truly dumber and ever more dependent w/o incentive to go out and survive on their own at higher more personally rewarding levels in this short earthly life,
This is change that will help destroy-this great country as we know it - from within.
Idea-stop rewarding poor judgement and horribly irresponsible behavior--THIS CHANGE BRINGS NO HOPE-ONLY AN EVER LESS EDUCATED LAZY POPULATION WHO ARE LIKE ETERNAL CHILDREN
MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA
That sound like a lot of your feelings. None of it is back up with empirical data. You can't get welfare without working. Unless you have a disability. Focusing on the poor will never fix our problems. Your rant is just rhetorical vitriol.

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Manchin is the best man for the job.We had 8 yrs of republicans. Look what a mess we are in.
You better think again. He is right with Obama (anti-gun and coal)and has said in interview he won't even be actively campaigning again. He's been offered a job by Obama more than likely so you need to rethink that. Jay and Joe already sold us out on the AWB, Jay's a co-sponsor of Feinstein's bill so you don't even need to guess how will vote. You guys need to rethink Manchin seriously, check it out if you don't believe but they BOTH sold WV out entirely.

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Manchin has PROVEN himself to be good for WV. Why would you believe some greedy out of state businessman(Raese) over a proven leader. Manchin just sued the Obama administration, so how stupid do you have to be to believe he would be a rubber stamp of Obama. The GOP is going to need a lot better propagandist BS than that. Obama is black and most people in WV are racist idiots who will believe the BS.
How did that turn out? You know Manchin completely selling us out like Jay R. did? lol
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Jan 23, 2013
 
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You better think again. He is right with Obama (anti-gun and coal)and has said in interview he won't even be actively campaigning again. He's been offered a job by Obama more than likely so you need to rethink that. Jay and Joe already sold us out on the AWB, Jay's a co-sponsor of Feinstein's bill so you don't even need to guess how will vote. You guys need to rethink Manchin seriously, check it out if you don't believe but they BOTH sold WV out entirely.
If WV doesn't get away from coal then we are only delaying the inevitable. Guns too. Get over it.

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<quoted text>If WV doesn't get away from coal then we are only delaying the inevitable. Guns too. Get over it.
I'm not "getting over" anything you cretin. We have more coal than we do oil in the U.S., hundreds of years, the tech is there for clean coal plants already in place. So you support all these families here losing their financial independence/jobs and also the right to defend themselves? To just "get over it" and suckle at King Obama's teet while he bankrupts and ruins the country? WE can tell who you voted for You're a complete moron and don't deserve to call yourself an American, let alone a West Virginian. It's cowardly "progressives" like you who need to move to North Korea then re-evaluate the tripe you just let drool out of your mouth.
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I'm not "getting over" anything you cretin. We have more coal than we do oil in the U.S., hundreds of years, the tech is there for clean coal plants already in place. So you support all these families here losing their financial independence/jobs and also the right to defend themselves? To just "get over it" and suckle at King Obama's teet while he bankrupts and ruins the country? WE can tell who you voted for You're a complete moron and don't deserve to call yourself an American, let alone a West Virginian. It's cowardly "progressives" like you who need to move to North Korea then re-evaluate the tripe you just let drool out of your mouth.
But "West Virginia has more problems than just a ‘war on coal,'" he said. "It's about the physical properties of the coal that's left. The reserves are being depleted, and anybody that's spent any time looking at coal properties and reserves cannot tell you otherwise with a straight face."

Remaining southern West Virginia coal beds are thin, he said, meaning more rock has to be mined to get the coal — decreasing productivity and increasing cost.

More beds are split, with partings, he said, also decreasing productivity and increasing cost. Reserves are in relatively small, scattered blocks, in rugged terrain where it's difficult to achieve the efficiencies of a single mining complex where everything feeds into the same preparation plant.

"There's a lot of inherent, basically physical, attributes of the coal reserves that remain in southern West Virginia that cause these problems," Staggs said after speaking at a Platts coal conference.

Steam coal, used to produce electricity, also has been affected by competition from recently and persistently cheap natural gas, he said — but he doesn't believe higher natural gas prices and a return of the market for steam coal will help the coal industry in this part of the country.

"Southern West Virginia simply has its own set of problems having to do with the nature of its coal deposits," he said. "All these other things are just layered on top of that."

Stagg decried the use of "war on coal" rhetoric for political gain.

"What bothers me, in West Virginia, is this jumping on the bandwagon that ‘We will help stop the war on coal,' which gives the population the false impression that if we could just change the administration or rein in the EPA, we could bring our industry back," he said.

"It'll never come back like it was," he said. "And people don't make good decisions if they think it will — whether it's politicians, or legislators, or business people, or the average man or woman on the street. If I'm a coal miner in Boone County, I might think I'm going to ride this out — take my savings, hunker down like I've done before, like my daddy did before, until it comes back. That's not a good decision."

It's not about Democrats or Republicans, Obama or not Obama, he said.

"There are things that are. This is the way it is."
- http://www.statejournal.com/story/19624223/ex...
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I'm not "getting over" anything you cretin. We have more coal than we do oil in the U.S., hundreds of years, the tech is there for clean coal plants already in place. So you support all these families here losing their financial independence/jobs and also the right to defend themselves? To just "get over it" and suckle at King Obama's teet while he bankrupts and ruins the country? WE can tell who you voted for You're a complete moron and don't deserve to call yourself an American, let alone a West Virginian. It's cowardly "progressives" like you who need to move to North Korea then re-evaluate the tripe you just let drool out of your mouth.
I didn't vote for Obama. I voted for the only true liberal candidate Ms. Jill Stein of the Green Party. I hope you read my previous post regarding coal and its decline. It is dirty. We have terrible air quality. We will have to transition off of coal eventually. What it gets replaced with is the issue. If we don't take control over our own future we are going to continue to be raped by the coal and natural gas industries. In 300 years what will this place be? You aren't thinking about the future generations. You are not the one that decides who is American. I am a Native American, so why don't you stop the name calling. Maybe you should stop demonizing the other side and have a meaningful discussion.

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<quoted text> How did that turn out? You know Manchin completely selling us out like Jay R. did? lol
What have Manchin and Jay done that has "sold us out"?

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He is something for people to think about. If the purpose of banning guns is to save lives, why dont we ban 4 wheelers? That would save far more lives than banning assault weapons so why are ATV legal? Riddle me that? Actually banning baseball bats would save more lives. Banning fast food would surely save more lives, why not that?
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He is something for people to think about. If the purpose of banning guns is to save lives, why dont we ban 4 wheelers? That would save far more lives than banning assault weapons so why are ATV legal? Riddle me that? Actually banning baseball bats would save more lives. Banning fast food would surely save more lives, why not that?
that's not true, but let's say it is. An ATV and a baseball bat aren't made to kill people. Flawed logic
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cherokee mountain lady wrote:
The only constant in this short life is change!.
change can be good or bad -balance is most often included in the healthier change -to swing one way or another toooo far is most often calamatus/damaging to a positive social fabric.
We are not talking about social security or medicare which have been paid for as they have been already taken from peoples earnings..
But changing to a largely ,slovenly, uneducated dependent nation overwhelmed by children w/o fathers in the home -largely unwed single mothers often with multiple kids -many with no real education or means to take care of them-not only causes social chaos[look at our overburdened jails]-but also economic chaos as smaller proportions of working people are being forced to economically subsidize all--'these babies mommas daddies and other daddies babies mammas,etc,etc,
I am not begrudging people who need temporary help and use some welfare services to better educate themselves for a period of time. BUT-there are scores of deadbeats out there who feel entitled to sit home and watch Springer or Maury Povich's comedy of horrors while collecting more"FREE TO THEM" money for each bastard child they produce on hard working peoples backs. It is morally wrong for this permanent dependecy to exist for lazy people with little self control-[of all races]-it will exponentially spreadlike rabid cancer
This is the type of change that will bring the U.S. closer and ever closer to 3rd world type living..making the new majority[a sheep voting block] but ever truly dumber and ever more dependent w/o incentive to go out and survive on their own at higher more personally rewarding levels in this short earthly life,
This is change that will help destroy-this great country as we know it - from within.
Idea-stop rewarding poor judgement and horribly irresponsible behavior--THIS CHANGE BRINGS NO HOPE-ONLY AN EVER LESS EDUCATED LAZY POPULATION WHO ARE LIKE ETERNAL CHILDREN
MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA
the thing about poverty is though, it is a cycle. It's not something anyone chooses. And there's no upward mobility in our society currently. What else are people going to do if there's no one there to help them and show them a better way of living, their behavior will continue until there is change..in society. The problem exists within society, not individuals or even a group of people. and we all have to participate to change it for the better.
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<quoted text>. Yea forget the fact that you have to work to get assistance. All of problems would be solved if people were less lazy. Maybe we should look at wages, and stop focusing on the poor.
yeah if wages were higher, there wouldn't be as many poor people!**wow**
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<quoted text> That sound like a lot of your feelings. None of it is back up with empirical data. You can't get welfare without working. Unless you have a disability. Focusing on the poor will never fix our problems. Your rant is just rhetorical vitriol.
focusing on the poor will fix our problem! because it is the main problem! Why are they poor? What is society doing wrong? How can we fix it?
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I'm not "getting over" anything you cretin. We have more coal than we do oil in the U.S., hundreds of years, the tech is there for clean coal plants already in place. So you support all these families here losing their financial independence/jobs and also the right to defend themselves? To just "get over it" and suckle at King Obama's teet while he bankrupts and ruins the country? WE can tell who you voted for You're a complete moron and don't deserve to call yourself an American, let alone a West Virginian. It's cowardly "progressives" like you who need to move to North Korea then re-evaluate the tripe you just let drool out of your mouth.
i don't think anyone supports families losing jobs or being driven into poverty. people are however concerned about global warming and all of the negative environmental effects it is having on us. Coal is not very clean lol

Our community is riddled with enough poverty, what would it be like if we lost all of the coal mining jobs in Southern WV? We need to find another means of production FAST! We need financial independence from the coal companies. If you want to keep coal around, we should at least take it and make our own $$$ let's get rich!!
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<quoted text> But "West Virginia has more problems than just a ‘war on coal,'" he said. "It's about the physical properties of the coal that's left. The reserves are being depleted, and anybody that's spent any time looking at coal properties and reserves cannot tell you otherwise with a straight face."
Remaining southern West Virginia coal beds are thin, he said, meaning more rock has to be mined to get the coal — decreasing productivity and increasing cost.
More beds are split, with partings, he said, also decreasing productivity and increasing cost. Reserves are in relatively small, scattered blocks, in rugged terrain where it's difficult to achieve the efficiencies of a single mining complex where everything feeds into the same preparation plant.
"There's a lot of inherent, basically physical, attributes of the coal reserves that remain in southern West Virginia that cause these problems," Staggs said after speaking at a Platts coal conference.
Steam coal, used to produce electricity, also has been affected by competition from recently and persistently cheap natural gas, he said — but he doesn't believe higher natural gas prices and a return of the market for steam coal will help the coal industry in this part of the country.
"Southern West Virginia simply has its own set of problems having to do with the nature of its coal deposits," he said. "All these other things are just layered on top of that."
Stagg decried the use of "war on coal" rhetoric for political gain.
"What bothers me, in West Virginia, is this jumping on the bandwagon that ‘We will help stop the war on coal,' which gives the population the false impression that if we could just change the administration or rein in the EPA, we could bring our industry back," he said.
"It'll never come back like it was," he said. "And people don't make good decisions if they think it will — whether it's politicians, or legislators, or business people, or the average man or woman on the street. If I'm a coal miner in Boone County, I might think I'm going to ride this out — take my savings, hunker down like I've done before, like my daddy did before, until it comes back. That's not a good decision."
It's not about Democrats or Republicans, Obama or not Obama, he said.
"There are things that are. This is the way it is."
- http://www.statejournal.com/story/19624223/ex...
this is a very big problem for the coal fields. They are gonna freak out when they wake up.
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<quoted text> I didn't vote for Obama. I voted for the only true liberal candidate Ms. Jill Stein of the Green Party. I hope you read my previous post regarding coal and its decline. It is dirty. We have terrible air quality. We will have to transition off of coal eventually. What it gets replaced with is the issue. If we don't take control over our own future we are going to continue to be raped by the coal and natural gas industries. In 300 years what will this place be? You aren't thinking about the future generations. You are not the one that decides who is American. I am a Native American, so why don't you stop the name calling. Maybe you should stop demonizing the other side and have a meaningful discussion.
Yes! You tell em! thank you for the lovely bit of intelligence!

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<quoted text> that's not true, but let's say it is. An ATV and a baseball bat aren't made to kill people. Flawed logic
It isnt true? Really? Guns are not made to kill people, millions of guns never kill anyone. A gun is comparable to a baseball bat for sure. Both can be used to kill someone, but doesnt mean that is what they were "made" for. And if the real goal is to save lives than the ATV comparison is also accurate. Far more people are killed each year on ATV's than killed by "assault" weapons. Certainly banning fast food would save MANY lives. I think you dont want to admit the truth so you say the logic is flawed. The truth is you just want to take away other peoples rights(guns) because it isnt a right you personally care about. Slippery slope my friend. Maybe you should move to NY and then you can be told what you can own and how big of soft drink you are allowed to purchase.

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