serial fraud

Los Angeles, CA

#53930 Nov 14, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
“Rate shock”: The GOP’s shameful new Obamacare lie
If you’re a healthcare reform supporter and have found yourself arguing with a conservative about Obamacare this week you’ve probably been confronted with three different but related complaints.
1. Millions of people with individual market healthcare coverage are getting cancellation notices from their insurers.
2. People who got those notices are now experiencing “rate shock.”
3. President Obama thus lied to the public when he claimed, repeatedly, that under Obamacare “if you like your coverage, you can keep it.”
In a way it’s a healthy development for conservatives because for the first time they’re actually reacting to real testimonials from real people, instead of just regurgitating some derp they invented or read on Drudge.
As always, though, the point of the complaints isn’t to address and rectify problems, but rather to deploy them as subterfuge to wreck the entire reform edifice.
We know that because conservatives never weigh the first two complaints against the very clear and obvious good Obamacare promises to do for the uninsured and previously uninsurable. Instead they fuse them into one, and respond to all attempts to clarify the situation by invoking the third complaint. Not everyone’s experiencing rate shock, you say? The law dramatically improves the individual market relative to the pre-Obamacare status quo? Well, you’re just covering for the fact that Obama lied.
Rinse repeat.
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/30/rate_shock_th...
..........

This is a big scandalous scheme and the more you look at it, systematic dishonesty is rife all the way through it.”

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53932 Nov 14, 2013
Igor Volsky:

6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think

The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures

More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.
Blue Crabs

Los Angeles, CA

#53933 Nov 14, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Igor Volsky:
6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think
The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures
More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.
..........

“you want your plan, you keep your plan”

True or False?

.
.

A swing and a miss!

I'm sorry, but you've struck out.

Again.

Please feel free to play again later when you've developed a response with substance and honesty in it.

LOL!
Michelle

West Mifflin, PA

#53934 Nov 14, 2013
" If your like your healthcare provider , you can keep it, and if you like your doctor you can keep him to".....?????

Obama has said this 1000 times ,and now people have to change health care providers and doctors, after their healthcare was dropped for them....... now spin that or change the subject !!

Once the truth hits you right in the face, you still defend this POTUS !!

WHY? Tell it like it is!!
Igor Volsky

Los Angeles, CA

#53935 Nov 14, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
:
6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think
The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures
More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.
..........

.

A swing and a miss!

I'm sorry, but you've struck out.

Again.

Please feel free to play again later when you've developed a response with substance and honesty in it.

LOL!
Michelle

West Mifflin, PA

#53936 Nov 14, 2013
An estimated 5 million Americans have had their health plans canceled under President Obama’s Affordable Care Act. Here’s how many people now need to sign up for new plans every day.

The White House announced Wednesday about 106,000 people selected new health plans in the first month of open enrollment through the state and federal insurance marketplaces.

Of those, about 27,000 people actually signed up for health plans through the federal site HealthCare.gov .

In order for everyone to retain insurance, 156,000 people will need to sign up for new health plans every day until Dec. 15 — the deadline for health coverage to go into effect on Jan. 1, 2014.

Take a peek here:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/passantino/heres-how-...
bobby6464

Portland, OR

#53939 Nov 14, 2013
Ha ha ha ahhh them racial hating tea bags. That lumbaugh nut juice is all the health care your ignorant asses deserve. America says just blow it out
Chambersburg liar

Los Angeles, CA

#53940 Nov 14, 2013
George Will:

Young People Fleeing Obamacare in 'Rational Terror'

Healthcare.gov isn't going to be fixed by the end of November.

Yet, that's the least of the Obama administration's worries concerning their epic failure in rolling out their new health care law.

Bloomberg's Megan McArdle apty noted that only

"hope"

would be able to save Obamacare.

With the system collapsing, pundit George Will said last night that a critical component of Obamacare's success - young people - is running away in "rational terror."

- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vespa/geor...
Fuzzy math

West Mifflin, PA

#53941 Nov 14, 2013
Igor Volsky wrote:
<quoted text>
..........
.
A swing and a miss!
I'm sorry, but you've struck out.
Again.
Please feel free to play again later when you've developed a response with substance and honesty in it.
LOL!
One month into the rollout of Obamacare, 106,185 people had chosen a private health insurance plan using the health care reform law's troubled exchanges, the Department of Health and Human Services announced Wednesday, the first time the Obama administration has given enrollment figures

The disappointing results of the first phase of Affordable Care Act enrollment underscore the fragility of the new marketplaces and the urgent need for the Obama administration to get HealthCare.gov reliably functioning by the end of this month. The coverage of millions of people whose plans are being eliminated hangs in the balance, as does the prospect of reducing the ranks of the 48 million Americans who have no health insurance.

Some 26,794 people who have selected a health plan did so via the federally run insurance exchanges, compared to the more than 79,000 who used the exchanges in the 15 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own marketplaces, according to the HHS report, which spans the period from Oct. 1 to Nov. 2.

Not all of the more than 100,000 people tallied by the administration have taken the final necessary step and actually made the first payment for their coverage, which begins in January, the report indicates. The Department of Health and Human Services doesn't have accurate data on how many people made payments to insurers, which aren't due until Dec. 15, Sebelius said.

An additional 975,407 people have completed the application to determine whether they can receive subsidies and now have only to choose a health plan, the report says. More than 396,000 people using the exchanges have been deemed eligible for Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Plan.

Yoy cant run or hide from the actual numbers !!
Read more here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/13/obam...
bobby6464

Clearfield, PA

#53943 Nov 14, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Igor Volsky:
6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think
The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures
More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.
LMFAO Thanks for the laugh!
bobby6464

Clearfield, PA

#53945 Nov 14, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Republicans are the real lying liars on Obamacare
Noble lies have in many ways defined the debate over the Affordable Care Act, but the vast majority of them have been lies conservatives told in a failed effort to nix reform.
Death panels are the most famous such lie. Another is that Obamacare is destroying the economy, creating a part-time labor pandemic and a major obstacle to recovery from the great recession. A third is that it will blow up the debt.
A fourth, also still with us, is that Obamacare is a stalking horse for socialized healthcare.
...
the right’s been given a complete pass for feigning concern for people whose coverage has been canceled, when their own reform proposals are an order of magnitude more disruptive.
...
Lying is bad. People shouldn’t lie. But on this score, just ask yourself whose descriptions of Obamacare were closer to reality: Obama’s or the Republican Party’s?
It isn’t even a close call.
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/07/a_petty_rant_...
LMFAO!
bobby6464

Clearfield, PA

#53946 Nov 14, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Top 10 Republican Lies About Obamacare
Lie 10.“Obamacare will have death panels”
– Sarah Palin.
Lie 9.“Obamacare is nothing more than the largest tax increase in the history of the world,”
- Rush Limbaugh.
Lie 8.“Hidden in the healthcare.gov code is language that means users ‘waive any reasonable right to privacy of your personal information’”
- Joe Barton.
Lie 7.“No doctors who went to an American medical school will be accepting Obamacare”
- Ann Coulter.
Lie 6.“Members of Congress, thanks to the Obama administration, are going to be the only people in America to get subsidies in the Obamacare exchanges”
- Jeb Hensarling.
Lie 5.“A strong bipartisan majority (in the House of Representatives) voted to de-fund Obamacare”
- Ted Cruz
Lie 4.“Obamacare will question your sex life”
- Betsy McCaughey.
Lie 3.“Obamacare provision will allow forced home inspections by government agents.”
– Examiner dot com blogs
Lie 2.“[Under Obamacare] 75% of small businesses now say they are going to be forced to either fire workers or cut their hours”
– Marco Rubio
Lie 1. Due to the word “Dhimmitude” being on “page 107 of the health care law, Muslims are specifically exempt from the government mandate to purchase insurance.”
- Chain email
Quiet Mike dot com
Your top negro is a failure. His address today was a joke and it was very clear he has no idea what he was talking about. More lies and deception. He can't do what he said he was going to do...it can't be done. LMFAO He is going to make his OBAMACARE failure even worse. I'm tickled pink that Obamacare was not shut down. Let it continue and watch the failures and Obama's poll numbers drop even more. Our next President will be republican and they are going to keep the house and take back the senate. Won't that be nice Danny Boy?
tea bagger gagger

West Mifflin, PA

#53948 Nov 14, 2013
sorry but hillary has it locked up...LOL!
even the GOP admits that!
LMAO!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53950 Nov 14, 2013
The Country Is Doing Better Than You Think

The economy is growing much more quickly than expected. Inflation is basically nonexistent. The federal budget deficit has been slashed dramatically. The stock market is reaching all-time highs. One of our long-running wars is over, and the other is winding down. The status of the United States as the world’s preeminent economic and military power is unchallenged.

Last week’s announcement that the U.S.economy grew at a 2.8 percent annual rate in the third quarter was stunning. That news was followed by the October employment numbers, which were also promising: a total of 204,000 new jobs. The federal deficit for fiscal 2013 was just $680 billion. That sounds like a lot of money — all right, it is a lot of money — but it’s an incredible 37 percent less than the deficit for fiscal 2012.

If you listen to President Obama’s critics, especially his Republican adversaries on Capitol Hill, you’d think the economy was wheezing its last gasps. But investors obviously disagree, since the Dow closed Monday at a record high — and has nearly doubled since Obama took office. Put simply, money talks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53951 Nov 14, 2013
Business Insider:

Here’s The Real Reason People Hate Their Individual Market Health Insurance

Unlike people on Medicare, Medicaid and employer-based insurance, people who buy coverage in the individual market know exactly how much they’re paying for it. A plan that you would only rate “fair” when you have to pay $5,000 for it might merit an “excellent” if its apparent cost to you were only $1,000. Almost all of us should be dissatisfied with our health plans, because the American health care system involves paying twice as much as people in other rich countries do to achieve similar health outcomes.

People love their employer-provided coverage because they have no idea how much it’s costing them. One of the reasons I like the disruptions created by Obamacare, and wish there were more of them, is that many of them involve exposing the true cost of American health care to consumers.

The law requires employers to start reporting the cost of employer-sponsored insurance on W-2 forms, so people know how much of their compensation is eaten up by health insurance. Successful health reform should bring that transparency to other parts of the market. That will make the public angry — not because they’re being made worse off, but because they’re finally realizing how bad they’ve had it all along.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53952 Nov 14, 2013
Igor Volsky:

Oversight Chairman Accused Of Leaking Misleading Information About Obamacare Implementation

Democrats on the House Oversight Committee are accusing Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) of selectively leaking misinformation about HealthCare.gov in an effort to portray administration officials as misleading the public about the implementation of Obamacare. On Thursday, Issa appeared on Fox News and claimed that he had obtained documents proving that contractors working on Healthcare.gov believed that the site could only handle 1,100 users before launch.

U.S. Chief Technology Officer Todd Park and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney had publicly stated that the administration believed that the site could handle 60,000 concurrent users. But in a letter to Issa, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), the ranking member on the Committee, pointed to an interview Issa’s own staff conducted with Henry Chao, the Deputy Information Officer. Chao explained that the 1,000 figure were “the results of a much smaller testing environment” and were not conducted “with final production testing of the system at full capacity.”

More here

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53953 Nov 14, 2013
Steve Benen:

Job growth picks up steam unexpectedly

If there was one thing everyone seemed to expect this morning, it was a discouraging jobs report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. After all, these new figures cover the month of October, which means they’ll include the period in which congressional Republicans shut down the federal government.

Imagine our surprise, then, when the new jobs data turned out to be pretty good.

According to the new BLS report, the U.S. economy added 204,000 jobs in October, double economists’ expectations. The private sector added 212,000 jobs – the second best total of the year thus far.
question of the year

Hazleton, PA

#53954 Nov 14, 2013
Who is that on Dan's avatar? I always wanted to know but was too busy trolling this irrelevant forum.
Omar

West Mifflin, PA

#53955 Nov 14, 2013
Obama back peddles on Obamacare, 2 sets of rules,,,,,,,,if you were dropped from your healthcare provider because of Obamacare, you can keep your old coverage once you get it back and keep it for all of 2014, but everyone else needs to follow the rules of obamacare, why 2 sets of standards ? like telling the blacks to move to the back of the bus again...
Jason

West Mifflin, PA

#53957 Nov 14, 2013
once again the middle class pay for the poor
we have been doing this for years.

obamacare wasnt set up for the hard working people of this country but for the lazy no good for nothing trash that dont even want to work and want free stuff

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