Reggae is 100% Jamaican...NOT Puerto Rican

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JamaicanTrini

Olney, MD

#1 Mar 12, 2010
I'm half Jamaican half Trinidadian, and I love all forms of caribbean music especially reggae!! I just don't understand why alot NOT all Puerto Ricans are so arrogant and try to act like they started this so called " genre " of music called " reggaeton " which is no where near like the original " REGGAE " form. Reggae music originated in Kingston, Jamaica & has been around for years. It just bothers me when I hear Puerto ricans saying that reggaeton is better than reggae LOL that's like saying that a pastor of a church is better than god himself LOL you can't steal a style of music add a " ton " onto the end of it & then act cocky and conceited and call it your own from your country..that is crazy!! I know that there was spanish reggae from panama which was started by panamanians of jamaican decent because of jamaicans migrating to panama and bringing reggae music with them so the original dance hall reggae beats from jamaica were used in panamanian reggae songs & the lyrics were translated into spanish. I know that Puerto Rico, and Dominican Republic and all the other latin/caribbean countries started creating reggae songs a while after, yet when Puerto Ricans talk about reggaeton they barely ever give credit to Jamaica where it originated?? This is madness!! They should give respect to Jamaica, the root of all reggae music & dancehall is original and will always be better than reggaeton in my opinion because we jamaicans created the style, and all the beats.
JamaicanTrini

Olney, MD

#2 Mar 12, 2010
I love my Puerto Rican people and have maad respect 4 yall. Don't take this as a diss, it's just something that needs to be put out there. I've met maad latinos from places like Mexico, El Salvador, and other places that are uninformed and think that alot of the beats from reggae dancehall are copied from reggaeton beats..and I'm like wtf are you talking about?? It's the Rican artists that don't let the public know that alot of their beats are copied or used from jamaican dancehall songs. For example the " Pull Up " song by Mr. Vegas. That is a 100% Jamaican beat, but yet when PitBull (Cuban) from Miami, used it for the " Coolo " song & Ivy Queen (Puerto Rico) used it for the " Move Your Body " song all of a sudden Puerto Ricans classified the beat as a reggaeton beat. I was like WTF?? That's a straight rip off and I know alot of latinos that I had to explain this to because they were laughing when I played dancehall songs with this beat and were saying " this is nice, but yall jamaicans stole it from us latinos " I told them hell naaww..yall stole it from us jamaicans!! We make the beats and ricans steal them and make reggaeton songs out of them. Same with the " Dem Bow " beat that ricans use as the base for every song. That beat was first used in a Shabba Ranks Song " Dem Bow ". Bow is a jamaican slang term for guys who eat pu**y because it is made fun of and not publicly accepted in jamaican culture. Same with gays. Why do Ricans use " Dem Bow " and say it's theirs yet they don't even know what " Dem Bow " means, it means " they bow ". LOL..during interviews they say that Dem Bow originated in Puerto Rico. hahah That beat was created by a jamaican producer. It is 100% jamaican. We yardi bwoy a run de reggae scene. If unu wann' mek a reggae song, big up weh de music style a come from..seen? A jamaica deh first. We start de bloodclaaaut ting LOL..Panamanians always big up jamaica and say that jamaica reggae was their influence and where they got their whole style and everything from but they just translate it to spanish. So wah gwann puerto rico? mi love unu!! I love yall, especially yall fine ass rican women but give jamaica some respect cuz if it wasn't for reggae there would be no reggaeton!!
The truth will come out

Sanford, FL

#3 Apr 2, 2010
WTF I would like to know is who the fuck is giving these people permission to use these beats. Further more Puerto Ricans will never give respect where it is due because They are racist as hell and do not like black people. They say they do and try to act like it but believe me I am Caribbean and I know spanish and I hear the things they say about blacks all the time. White skinned Puerto Ricans don't even like the black skinned ones. My friends that are black skinned from Puerto Rico tell me how racist Puerto RicANS really are. He says if you only knew how they really were you wouldn't befriend any of them you would hate them like poison. Plus they think they are above everyone they are so proud. So If Jamaican or any other AFRO carribean country is waiting for props from puerto Rico think again. They have the nerve to call this music there own WTF I have even read where it is said that it would be wrong to say that reggaeton is heavily influenced by reggae because it is so unique- right. I ve even heard a Puerto Rican use the word dancehall instead of the word reggae, and then use the word reggae to describe their music. But I can only blame the Jamaicans for giving them the permission to do this in the first place. The youths that are coming up that hear reggae don't know the history of music so naturally they will come to their own conclusion of who started what. Furthermore if reggaeton deserves any props what so ever its from the Panamanian Jamaicans who started it. I ve had Puerto Ricans drop their jaws when they find out that the music was originated in Panama. BLACK people if you don't stop selling your souls for money to lighter skinned people we gonna loose everything we have worked for. I blame producers like Bobby "Digital" Dixon, who started the dem bow beat and simply just gave it to the Puerto Ricans. Which is the beat they use for every song. I hope they gave him plenty of money now you have these people disrespecting us after we work so hard to establish our name as a people. You know how hard past artist worked to get reggae out into the American culture, now because of greed we are being stepped on and not being given the props we deserve. White skinned spanish people will act like they love blacks and that we are one ya right deep down they think they are above us, my wonderful significant other is white skinned spanish so I get all the scoop. He tells me the truth because he does n't want me smilling in their faces because he knows what happens when I turn my back. I thank him for the info because before him I was not aware.
ya right

Sanford, FL

#4 Apr 2, 2010
Jamaican above you can say you love Puerto Rican all you want to but did you read the article below you. Its true sweetie Puerto Rican are one of the proudest people in the world. With that type of proudness and arrogance you really expect them to love you a Jamaican an outsider like you love them. Trust me they ll make you think that but alot of people know the truth. If they are taking the history of the music and twisting it this is wrong and devious. And Jamaicans are not aware because they don't speak spanish. JAMAICANS and all other islands seriously you guys are taking this too lightly the producers of the beats need to stop sharing and if they have not been compensated for the beats reggeaton is using they need to think twice and stop being foolish. Reggae is nothing like that artificial annoying shit but at the same time they are trying to copy our concept and making it their own without showing respect for us. So Jamaican above you can love them all you want but this has nothing to do with love. It has to do with total disrespect. And if they loved you as much as you love them them then would they disrespect us like this I don't think so. Further more their females are pretty but they are whores.
JamaicanTrini

Olney, MD

#5 Apr 4, 2010
I definetally feel yall on that, and I definetally agree with what you are saying 100%. They act like this music is their music and do not show us any respect when it is asked where this music comes from they always say puerto rico instead of jamaica...and as for the panamanian jamaicans, I feel you on that too because it was panamanians of jamaican heritage that started translating the reggae lyrics into spanish and borrowing the beats. The panamanians always rep the jamaican flag and the panamanian flag though and the ones who I've talked to know the history of the music and the culture. Thanks for posting on this topic, and giving me more information about this. BLESS UP!!
Misslenguapara

Brockton, MA

#6 Apr 4, 2010
wow i just finished reading all this and i have to say that i grew up in puerto rico and ive been listening to reggae half my life and always knew where it came from also, let me tell you NOT all puertoricans are the same,and is not right that u judge all puertorican because of one ignorant puertorican, is like me saying the same about Jamaicans or any other country just because 1 Jamaican did or said something wrong I have much respect for Jamaicans, and all the countries and so what if puertoricans added ton at the end of the word is just a beat, all that matters is the lyrics and the peace..I am sad that this world would never find peace! God bless you all
jinie

Union, NJ

#7 Jun 12, 2010
thats not nice that wasnt nice at all i have a puerto rican friends and i like her im 100% jamaican thats your problkem and im not listening to this shit cause thats just racist
GreasyCentralAme rican

Jamaica Plain, MA

#8 Jun 13, 2010
Reggae is from Jamaica reggaeton is from Panama.
JamaicanTrini

Olney, MD

#9 Jul 28, 2010
jinie wrote:
thats not nice that wasnt nice at all i have a puerto rican friends and i like her im 100% jamaican thats your problkem and im not listening to this shit cause thats just racist
Ok...so what's your point?? I have puerto rican friends as well and panamanian friends and cuban friends and it doesn't matter what friends you have. The point I was trying to make is that some latin people act like they created this new thing called " reggaeton " and they diss reggae artists and diss reggae and say that their version is better but yet, they steal old original reggae beats from jamaica and record them in spanish. That's a fact. There are puertoricans and panamanians that give mad respect for jamaicans and the original reggae, and they will tell you the same thing. You can act silly and say smart comments all you want but as a jamaican (IF YOU ARE REALLY JAMAICAN HAHAH) then you should understand what I'm saying. Do you think it's okay for a jamaican to add a little bit of reggae to salsa music and then call it "salsa-regg" and say that it was created in jamaica and not give credit to the latin people who developed this style of music. I THINK NOT. So next time you have something smart to say without thinking and using your brain and looking at the facts...just keep it to yourself. Do your research first, then give your INTELLIGENT opinion. You should be ashamed of yourself being jamaican and saying foolishness like that. yuh a eediat gyal 4 real. Mek sure seh yuh nuh go a yard an' chat dem fool ting. Dem would a tell yuh seh deh real reggae come from yard alone...if yuh wann' tek we music dem unu betta show sum respec'...BIG UP 2 ALL JAMAICANS,PUERTORICANS,PANAMAN IANS WHO KNOW REAL REGGAE COME FROM KINGSTON,JAMAICA...RESPECT 2 REGGAE/DANCEHALL EN ESPANOL PANAMENO FROM CALON PANAMA,AND REGGAETON FROM PUERTO RICO. JAMAICA REPRESENT!! WE DA ORIGINAL REGGAE PIONEERS WHO STARTED IT ALL!!!
jessy

Sikeston, MO

#10 Jul 31, 2010
ya right wrote:
Jamaican above you can say you love Puerto Rican all you want to but did you read the article below you. Its true sweetie Puerto Rican are one of the proudest people in the world. With that type of proudness and arrogance you really expect them to love you a Jamaican an outsider like you love them. Trust me they ll make you think that but alot of people know the truth. If they are taking the history of the music and twisting it this is wrong and devious. And Jamaicans are not aware because they don't speak spanish. JAMAICANS and all other islands seriously you guys are taking this too lightly the producers of the beats need to stop sharing and if they have not been compensated for the beats reggeaton is using they need to think twice and stop being foolish. Reggae is nothing like that artificial annoying shit but at the same time they are trying to copy our concept and making it their own without showing respect for us. So Jamaican above you can love them all you want but this has nothing to do with love. It has to do with total disrespect. And if they loved you as much as you love them them then would they disrespect us like this I don't think so. Further more their females are pretty but they are whores.
I would like to reply to all the comments.. when you guys say puertoricans.. are you guys speaking of the Americanize that i have lived in America for more than two generations or have you or anyone close to you have had the chance to speak to a newly arrived islander.. or better yet have you gone to the Island itself..?
Everyone is speaking with ignorance.. and hate!.. Music is universal.. Reggeaton has been part of the island since the 80's.. Is not jamaican reggea and it will never be! There's also spanish rap, merengue, salsa, cumbia, and music dating back to the Taino Indian's. Puerto rico consist of many different races. Puertorican's from the Island are not close to the ones in America.
Puertorican women are whore's???
That like me saying jamaican women are dirty.
Is ignorance!!!
Educated individuals dont speak like yourselves.
We love and embrace every culture.. you should be embarrass of how you expressed yourselves.
Have a bless day!
jessy

Sikeston, MO

#11 Jul 31, 2010
JamaicanTrini wrote:
I love my Puerto Rican people and have maad respect 4 yall. Don't take this as a diss, it's just something that needs to be put out there. I've met maad latinos from places like Mexico, El Salvador, and other places that are uninformed and think that alot of the beats from reggae dancehall are copied from reggaeton beats..and I'm like wtf are you talking about?? It's the Rican artists that don't let the public know that alot of their beats are copied or used from jamaican dancehall songs. For example the " Pull Up " song by Mr. Vegas. That is a 100% Jamaican beat, but yet when PitBull (Cuban) from Miami, used it for the " Coolo " song & Ivy Queen (Puerto Rico) used it for the " Move Your Body " song all of a sudden Puerto Ricans classified the beat as a reggaeton beat. I was like WTF?? That's a straight rip off and I know alot of latinos that I had to explain this to because they were laughing when I played dancehall songs with this beat and were saying " this is nice, but yall jamaicans stole it from us latinos " I told them hell naaww..yall stole it from us jamaicans!! We make the beats and ricans steal them and make reggaeton songs out of them. Same with the " Dem Bow " beat that ricans use as the base for every song. That beat was first used in a Shabba Ranks Song " Dem Bow ". Bow is a jamaican slang term for guys who eat pu**y because it is made fun of and not publicly accepted in jamaican culture. Same with gays. Why do Ricans use " Dem Bow " and say it's theirs yet they don't even know what " Dem Bow " means, it means " they bow ". LOL..during interviews they say that Dem Bow originated in Puerto Rico. hahah That beat was created by a jamaican producer. It is 100% jamaican. We yardi bwoy a run de reggae scene. If unu wann' mek a reggae song, big up weh de music style a come from..seen? A jamaica deh first. We start de bloodclaaaut ting LOL..Panamanians always big up jamaica and say that jamaica reggae was their influence and where they got their whole style and everything from but they just translate it to spanish. So wah gwann puerto rico? mi love unu!! I love yall, especially yall fine ass rican women but give jamaica some respect cuz if it wasn't for reggae there would be no reggaeton!!
As a puertorican i know where the beats come from. The Puertorican's in the island also know! You cant compare us to Mexico, Peru, Panama or any other country. Ima explain to you why"... We are part of American Territory. We have done our homework since day one!.. In the island we read learn about American history.. If other countries wana sing our song from Don Omar.. Daddy Yankee, or anyone else is on them to learn the history! We not gona give anyone respect because everything we do.. we do it differently! Im sure these damn artist use Jamaican beats.. but they have to pay the person they got the beat from. Learn the history.. learn the business.. and come back correct!
jessy

Sikeston, MO

#12 Jul 31, 2010
JamaicanTrini wrote:
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Ok...so what's your point?? I have puerto rican friends as well and panamanian friends and cuban friends and it doesn't matter what friends you have. The point I was trying to make is that some latin people act like they created this new thing called " reggaeton " and they diss reggae artists and diss reggae and say that their version is better but yet, they steal old original reggae beats from jamaica and record them in spanish. That's a fact. There are puertoricans and panamanians that give mad respect for jamaicans and the original reggae, and they will tell you the same thing. You can act silly and say smart comments all you want but as a jamaican (IF YOU ARE REALLY JAMAICAN HAHAH) then you should understand what I'm saying. Do you think it's okay for a jamaican to add a little bit of reggae to salsa music and then call it "salsa-regg" and say that it was created in jamaica and not give credit to the latin people who developed this style of music. I THINK NOT. So next time you have something smart to say without thinking and using your brain and looking at the facts...just keep it to yourself. Do your research first, then give your INTELLIGENT opinion. You should be ashamed of yourself being jamaican and saying foolishness like that. yuh a eediat gyal 4 real. Mek sure seh yuh nuh go a yard an' chat dem fool ting. Dem would a tell yuh seh deh real reggae come from yard alone...if yuh wann' tek we music dem unu betta show sum respec'...BIG UP 2 ALL JAMAICANS,PUERTORICANS,PANAMAN IANS WHO KNOW REAL REGGAE COME FROM KINGSTON,JAMAICA...RESPECT 2 REGGAE/DANCEHALL EN ESPANOL PANAMENO FROM CALON PANAMA,AND REGGAETON FROM PUERTO RICO. JAMAICA REPRESENT!! WE DA ORIGINAL REGGAE PIONEERS WHO STARTED IT ALL!!!
YOU JUST CONTRADICTED EVERYTHING YOU HAD SAID! WE DO WHATEVER THE F@#$ WE WANT IN OUR ISLAND WORRY ABOUT YOUR ISLAND!.. YOU ALL TIGHT AND THE REAL PRODUCER ARE MAKING THE MONEY! SO SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO OUR MUSIC.. GROW AND LEARN MIJO!
Deepthought

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Aug 6, 2010
GreasyCentralAmerican wrote:
Reggae is from Jamaica reggaeton is from Panama.
that's true I'm both jamaican and Panamanian and I love both my countries and the music my uncles ex wife was puertorican and she was crazy I hang with everyone but "white" puertoricans Are very arrogant ( the ones that I know) they don't think I could speak Spanish but I do so I just say forget them and if I meet one who is nice that's cool btw my gf is coloumbian/puertorican and she is very very very very cocky that's why we compete in school and think dance is better then singing ....... Again I have nothing against anyone but don't be a douche to other countries no wonder dominicans don't like them
JamaicanTrini

Olney, MD

#14 Aug 9, 2010
jessy wrote:
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YOU JUST CONTRADICTED EVERYTHING YOU HAD SAID! WE DO WHATEVER THE F@#$ WE WANT IN OUR ISLAND WORRY ABOUT YOUR ISLAND!.. YOU ALL TIGHT AND THE REAL PRODUCER ARE MAKING THE MONEY! SO SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO OUR MUSIC.. GROW AND LEARN MIJO!
HAHA FUNNY YOU SAY THAT CUZ OBVIOUSLY YALL SO WORRIED ABOUT " OUR " ISLAND THAT YOU WERE INFLUENCED BY IT TO THE POINT THAT YOU DEVELOP A " SPIN-OFF " OF OUR MUSIC AND SING IT IN SPANISH. DON'T FRONT HOMIE U KNOW THAT JAMAICA IS THA BOMB AND YALL STEAL 99% OF YOUR BEATS AND TALENT FROM OL' SKOOL AND NEW SKOOL JAMAICAN DANCEHALL. REGGAETON IS A SPANISH IMMITATION OF THE REAL JAMAICAN DANCEHALL AND EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. PANAMANIANS KEEP IT REAL THO CUZ THEY ARE OF JAMAICAN DECENT AND THEY GREW UP AS CARIBBEAN/LATINS. DON'T TRY TO CLOWN ON SOMETHING THAT YOU IMMITATE. FAKE ASS WANNA BE JAMAICANS. CREATE YOUR OWN SH#* THEN YOU CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR IT B*TCH!! AND FOR THE COMMENT " GROW AND LEARN " HAHAHAHA YEA YALL GREW AND LEARNED OFF OF WHAT WE STARTED YA D*CK RIDAZ. GWEH!! GO SUCK YA MOOMA TO RAHTID
Manolo NYRican

United States

#15 Sep 7, 2010
Yo I'm puerto rican n my people know where d hell reggae originated and we give credit to the jamaicans till dis day. Everything thathas been posted up boutusbein racist n arrogant is fucked up cuz u judging us all 4 d same n dat is arrogant. First of reggaton sounds nothing like reggae but atleast we admit dat we were influenced by y'all musik n decided 2 give it our own twist. Shit if we wanted to we could've gave it a completely different spanish name n had not given y'all any credit. We named it reggaeton cuz we were influenced by reggae but decided 2 make it 4 us so we give y'all ignorant ppl credit n props for it. Obviously d ones still mad about d issue is y'all. Never did we not give credit 4 using d genre. Who d fuck cares bout who invented d damn genre. Just enjoy music. Every1 is entitled 2 their own opinion n if ricans think dat reggaton is better than reggae than datz their opinion juz as it is yours but atleast we were respectful enough 2 give u credit n let d world kno dat it all started in jamaica wit reggae. I like sum reggae but don't understand half dat shit so in my preference I enjoy reggaeton cuz its wat I'm used 2 but I ain't no racist arrogant motherfer so I do give respect 2jamaicans 4 influencing us.
Rosa

United States

#16 Sep 7, 2010
I feel y'all but most of these comments are racist on so many levels n piss me d hell off. I understand d anger for not getting credit but as y'all even said reggaeton is very different than reggae. However dontu think it still has d reggae in d name for a reason. Us puerto ricans loved reggae so much thatwe wanted to bring it 2 our people as well but in a way that we could understand it n therefore we also incorporated sum of our style along wit our language in it. Its shitty musik 2 y'all but we like it because we made it sond good to our ears in a way dat we could relate to the musik. I'm assuming that d latinos that think y'all stole d beats from us are younger n have no knowledge of d history behind dis genre movement. The part I think u got twisted is dat sum puerto ricans don't like reggae n prefer reggaeton but yet again datz an opinion n u really can't get mad at wat sounds good 2 other peoples ears. The puerto rican people give honor n respect 2 ur people in so many different ways than u even kno bu probably don't kno because of d ignorance n hatred u have 4 us 4 using orshall I say being influenced by ur beats. As much of y'all probably don't kno there is a whole rastafarian movement in puerto rico and there are plenty of reggae bands n groups inpuerto rico that prefer to only play reggae just wit spanish lyrics. Also we aren't too different than y'all people since 20 million puerto ricans r afro latino so please don't categorize us as racist since we r one of d most racial diverse countries in d planet and unlike other countries like usa n carribbean nations we don't refer to each other as black white or mulatto but boricua. We don't see color in our culture n if sum r racist than datz sum. I've also experienced raciism from my own ppl. So please be a little more knowledgable of things n b considerate of other ppl. U don't kno who u can offend.
Rosa

United States

#18 Sep 7, 2010
U should feel embarrassed and it is people like u dat give ur people a bad name. It is people like u dat keep racism goin. Grow d hell up n get over it. We ain't gon kiss ur ass n tru ricans kno where dat shit came from. Truthfully d majority of ricans don't even like reggaeton or reggae its d youth n younger generation so please u b d educated one n do ur research u dumb racist arrogant pre judging selfish idiot...thanks n by d way I'm listenin 2 reggaton rite now givin props 2 jamaica..can't believe there's ppl like y'all in dis world its sad
Taino

United States

#19 Sep 7, 2010
UGH DUH!! U told me something I neva knew b4 (bein sarcastic lmao) We ain't dumb like u we kno dat shit is Jamaican but reggae n reggaeton are two different styles dat originated from 1 genre, reggae. If u mad cuz people think dat shit started in pr n not jamaica than. U got some personal anger issues n hate u need counceling with. Its not the fault of all puerto ricans if ur lame self decides to hang out wit d lame ignorant ones. Don't judge all people for a few ignorant ones. U obviously have fake rican friends n i would like u 2 say those things 2 their face. Instead u write a post about it, how soft is dat. Stupid greasy dread headed punk. Stop hangin out wit lil kids that don't kno shit. U don't see russel simmons n dmc complainin dat d rest of d world has made different genres of hip hop. Don't be rediculous hatin 4 no reason.
Boby

Panama City, Panama

#20 Sep 20, 2010
I am panamenian
I like jamaican reggae.

Our spanish reggae is like jamaican, but some artist are singing like ricans and many producers are using dembow to create music.

Please rescue the reggae.

I never read coments like yours, and i feel proud.

My dream, teach to others latinamerican that dembow is not the only riddim in reggae music.

Here in Panama the racism doesn't exist.

RESPECT BOB MARLEY
RESPECT DANGERMAN
JerseyBoy101

Swarthmore, PA

#21 Sep 22, 2010
JamaicanTrini wrote:
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HAHA FUNNY YOU SAY THAT CUZ OBVIOUSLY YALL SO WORRIED ABOUT " OUR " ISLAND THAT YOU WERE INFLUENCED BY IT TO THE POINT THAT YOU DEVELOP A " SPIN-OFF " OF OUR MUSIC AND SING IT IN SPANISH. DON'T FRONT HOMIE U KNOW THAT JAMAICA IS THA BOMB AND YALL STEAL 99% OF YOUR BEATS AND TALENT FROM OL' SKOOL AND NEW SKOOL JAMAICAN DANCEHALL. REGGAETON IS A SPANISH IMMITATION OF THE REAL JAMAICAN DANCEHALL AND EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. PANAMANIANS KEEP IT REAL THO CUZ THEY ARE OF JAMAICAN DECENT AND THEY GREW UP AS CARIBBEAN/LATINS. DON'T TRY TO CLOWN ON SOMETHING THAT YOU IMMITATE. FAKE ASS WANNA BE JAMAICANS. CREATE YOUR OWN SH#* THEN YOU CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR IT B*TCH!! AND FOR THE COMMENT " GROW AND LEARN " HAHAHAHA YEA YALL GREW AND LEARNED OFF OF WHAT WE STARTED YA D*CK RIDAZ. GWEH!! GO SUCK YA MOOMA TO RAHTID
Um ok I don't get it,you say you have mad respect for us puerto ricans but then your dissing us by calling us wanna be jamaicans
and d%ck ridaz, thats called being a hypocrite dude and it's just music who cares where it's from.

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