Beam falls, kills man

Beam falls, kills man

There are 30 comments on the The York Daily Record story from May 30, 2008, titled Beam falls, kills man. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Christopher Kohler of L. Windsor Twp. was working at a site in Maryland. Article Last Updated: 05/30/2008 03:08:29 AM EDT Christopher Kohler was the type of guy people liked, admired and respected.

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OSHA

United States

#2 May 30, 2008
Where was the safety director during all of this?
Very Sad

Harrisburg, PA

#3 May 30, 2008
I know accidents happen, but wouldn't there have been strict safety guidelines in place when handling a 1,000 pound beam? God bless his family.
Voice of Reason

Witmer, PA

#4 May 30, 2008
Very Sad wrote:
I know accidents happen, but wouldn't there have been strict safety guidelines in place when handling a 1,000 pound beam? God bless his family.
There are no longer accidents in this country. Someone will be charged with his death.
Greg

Marshall, VA

#5 May 30, 2008
You must be a lawyer
friend of family

Westminster, MD

#6 May 30, 2008
I know this must be a hard time for the family, hang in there guys and try to stay strong. God Bless you all he is watching over you...always remember the good times.
JW-hypocrisy-her e

United States

#7 May 30, 2008
First off, my condolences to the Kohler family. I wish this tragedy upon no one. He was in the prime of his life as well.

Now, on to the article and the attitude. Anyone familiar with JW's or their teachings must absolutely be floored by some of the statements made in this article. Things that "worldly" people do are most often "off-limits" to JW's; this doesn't just include holidays, saluting the flag, or blood transfusions. What I am referring to is the numerous mentions of extra-cirrcular activities he was involved in.

What do I mean? I mean, JW youth and adults are completely discouraged from "extra-cirricular activities" that would draw focus away from the "life-saving preaching work", such as any kind of sports. Also, attending sporting events such football and baseball games is seen as "mingling or associating with the world," is and heavily looked down upon. And, if you go so far as to actually COMPETE in sports, you are said to be having a, "competitive spirit of the world," and again looked down upon.

Having had family in the JW's, I am absolutely STUNNED at the numerous double standards in this article. If this guy had not been an Elder, and been active in these kinds of "off-limits, worldly" activities, he would have been privately reproved. But hey, he was an Elder right, and they can do what they want to, right?

Anyone familiar with the JW belief system or the countless WatchTower articles droning on constantly about "worldly" distractions, hobbies, extra-cirricular activities, etc knows EXACTLY what I am talking about what I say this article about him is riddled with double-standard behaviour. Also, one would be accused of bringing, "undue attention to oneself, instead of Jehovah," at the mere mention of these worldly activities.

What a fine example this article proves to be of the hypocrisy of JW religion and belief system, for in their world it's, "Do as we say, not as we do."

Again, I have nothing against him personally, but am aghast at the outright hypocrisy that the article brings forth.

Shame on the JW cult.

Again, I'm sorry this had to happen to him. No one deserves such an accident.
in york pa

Bessemer, AL

#8 May 30, 2008
JW Get a life, this is not the time nor place for your discussion. Let this family grieve and remember what a terrific man he was
JW-hypocrisy-her e

United States

#9 May 30, 2008
TO: in york pa:- Yeah, I can just feel the "Christ-like" love oozing off of you as well.

FYI: I have a life; I'm no longer a slave to the WatchTower publishing company, going to 5 meetings a week, or out knocking on not-at-homes anymore....so yeah, I'm doing fine.

Also, I feel the "Truth" needs to be shown to those reading the article that are unfamiliar with the JW beliefs or mindset. I mean, the private WatchTower (cult-edition) sure paints a different picture that the rosy public edition in my honest opinion.

Speaking of which, why are you on the internet if you are a JW? I recall the internet is definitely a no-no in JW land, it opens up the mind to too much "independant thinking."

Again, I have nothing against the man or his family, only pointing out the hypocrisy which the article shows here.

Don't get pissed at me, I didn't create the legalistic, pharasitical rules under which the WatchTower Society holds it's followers to, THEY DID.
JW-hypocrisy-her e

United States

#10 May 30, 2008
PS: Anyone wanting to see a real spectacle should attend a JW funeral. Why you may ask?

Well, this is the typical JW funeral outline (really, the do use an outline, straight from the headquarters in NY...err..Patterson)

1. Give brief discussion of the deceased, age, family, career, good qualities, etc. This typically doesn't last longer than 15 minutes.
2. Ease in WatchTower rhetoric by then stating what position they held in their congregation, duties, etc. 1 minute.
3. End discussion of deceased, and start in with what the deceased believed in, that being the JW beliefs. This lasts 45 minutes, and is a complete info-mercial for the WatchTower society, it's belief system, etc.

You see, JW funerals are not really for mourning...they are used "as a witness" to all non-believers. Ask any JW, and they will him-and-haul around until they admit it. JW's mourn breifly, for they feel that God's Judgement day is immenent and that afterwards the righteous and unrighteous will be resurrected and judged. Anyone not a JW will be thrown into the abyss or "second death" with Satan at the end of Christ's 1000 year reign over the New Earth. So, death is only temporary for JW's, and therefor you are taught not to mourn as worldy people do.

Think I am BS'ing, or making this up? Go to a JW funeral someday and you'll see I am right. No hymnals, no uplifting songs, just the JW belief system rammed down your throat, whether you came to hear it or not.

Sorry for the rant, but it's true...all of it...sad as it is.
Fine Shephard - where

United States

#12 May 30, 2008
I just love how the article brings out how he made a "shepharding call" to someone with an illness in the hospital recently. What feel-good BS this is. Did he do it? Sure, he probably did. But what a PR propoganda machine the JW's are.

Wanna hear how this "fine shephard" handled my relatives situation? Neither he, nor any of the other Elders from the Yorkana, Red Lion, or any other congregation came to visit when 2 of my "active in-good standing" relatives where on their death beds within the last few years. I was appaulled when my relatives related to me how when the tough times came, the JW's were NO WHERE TO BE FOUND!!(even though they themselves were JW's) I was floored....they were all active (25 year members)in several congregations over the years and not one JW called, offered food, visited, etc after the relatives died. Not ONE! No one even sent flowers. At one funeral, 5 JW's showed up out of a congregation of what - 150? 80 co-workers and so-called "worldly" friends showed up. Is this the love Jesus said would "define his followers"?

To add insult to injury, Mr. Kohler didn't even come when requested by the child of my relatives to visit when the parent was near death; apparently he gave my relative the number of some local elders in the area were treatment was being prescribed, and told him to contact THEM! Then, having given direction, he merely wiped his hands of the entire matter. When some of our other Non-JW relatives died a few years ago, the Lutheran church in which they attended brought food for weeks, held prayer vigils, etc. It was overwhelming and humblig to say the least. JWS: When the going gets tough, you are left out on your a$$ apparently. Oh, unless you have $$$$...then they are all lovey-dovey!!

What a contrast in terms of "fine shepharding."
Diane Aldinger Snider

United States

#13 May 30, 2008
My deepest sympathy to ALL his family, for Chris has lots. I've known Chris since we were kids. We graduated in the same class. We will all miss him at our reunion later this year. I may not have been very close to him, but we all cut from the same cloth. We are born, we live, and yes, someday we must die. Chris was called home way too early, but we are not to judge when our time is. When we are called, we must go. Live, Love, Laugh. That IS Chris. He will be sadly missed.
Friend of Family

Middletown, PA

#14 May 30, 2008
This is neither the time nor place to debate religion. Have some decency.
EASTERN GRADUATE

Ashburn, VA

#15 May 30, 2008
FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE IGNORANT ENOUGH TO POST SUCH HEARTLESS COMMENTS AND WHO ARE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE JW RELIGION ... SHAME ON YOU....''YOU AS HUMAN BEINGS SHOULD BE SENDING YOUR SYMPATHY ,''NOT'' YOUR PERSONAL COMMENTS @ THE RELIGION... SHAME , SHAME, SHAME ON YOU... SO FOR ALL THE IGNORANT PEOPLE .. I WILL SEND MY SYMPATHY AND MY PRAYERS.. HE WAS AND ALWAYS BE A WONDERFUL, LOVING MAN...
Voice of Reason

Witmer, PA

#16 May 31, 2008
What, in heaven's name is a "JW"? All I can think of is a jewish woman.
d snell

Tuscaloosa, AL

#17 May 31, 2008
jehovah's witness is what it means. people lets back off the guys religion for now, we all know that every religion has at least a little truth. the important thing is do we all go after gods heart? and how?
Voice of Reason

Witmer, PA

#18 May 31, 2008
d snell wrote:
jehovah's witness is what it means.
Thanks.

“The Horse Stops Here”

Since: May 08

Littlestown,Pa

#19 May 31, 2008
So Sorry

“The Horse Stops Here”

Since: May 08

Littlestown,Pa

#20 May 31, 2008
Kohler was the state's ninth work-related fatality this year, said Rhonda Wardlaw, a spokeswoman for the Maryland Occupational Safety and Health agency, which investigates workplace deaths. 9 deaths this year thats just in one state. This is probably the least reported and known statistic is the USA
iceguy

Morehead City, NC

#21 May 31, 2008
JW-hypocrisy-here wrote:
First off, my condolences to the Kohler family. I wish this tragedy upon no one. He was in the prime of his life as well.
Now, on to the article and the attitude. Anyone familiar with JW's or their teachings must absolutely be floored by some of the statements made in this article. Things that "worldly" people do are most often "off-limits" to JW's; this doesn't just include holidays, saluting the flag, or blood transfusions. What I am referring to is the numerous mentions of extra-cirrcular activities he was involved in.
What do I mean? I mean, JW youth and adults are completely discouraged from "extra-cirricular activities" that would draw focus away from the "life-saving preaching work", such as any kind of sports. Also, attending sporting events such football and baseball games is seen as "mingling or associating with the world," is and heavily looked down upon. And, if you go so far as to actually COMPETE in sports, you are said to be having a, "competitive spirit of the world," and again looked down upon.
Having had family in the JW's, I am absolutely STUNNED at the numerous double standards in this article. If this guy had not been an Elder, and been active in these kinds of "off-limits, worldly" activities, he would have been privately reproved. But hey, he was an Elder right, and they can do what they want to, right?
Anyone familiar with the JW belief system or the countless WatchTower articles droning on constantly about "worldly" distractions, hobbies, extra-cirricular activities, etc knows EXACTLY what I am talking about what I say this article about him is riddled with double-standard behaviour. Also, one would be accused of bringing, "undue attention to oneself, instead of Jehovah," at the mere mention of these worldly activities.
What a fine example this article proves to be of the hypocrisy of JW religion and belief system, for in their world it's, "Do as we say, not as we do."
Again, I have nothing against him personally, but am aghast at the outright hypocrisy that the article brings forth.
Shame on the JW cult.
Again, I'm sorry this had to happen to him. No one deserves such an accident.
Where did you ever hear jw's can't attend sporting events? I am df'd and grew up as a jw and never heard that and went to plenty of sporting events with other jw's. As far as him playing sports in HS you are assuming he was raised as a witness...maybe he became a jw after HS? Jw's highly reccomend you do not participate in extra CURRICULAR activities in school but does not mean if you do them they will take any action against you. Jw's do play sports at get togethers and such and try not to make it too competitive.

This a terrible tragedy for his family and friends. I think your assesment of the article is wrong because your letting your hate of the organization to make comments that are not true or misinformed.

My prayers goes out to his family and friends that are suffering a painful loss.
Missy

York, PA

#22 May 31, 2008
To all of you....This was a tragic accident where a man, a husband, and a father had lost his life with his son beside him to see the whole thing. You have absolutely no idea what this family is going through right now and will go through the rest of their lives. It could have very easily been my husband, my father or yours as a matter of fact. How would you like to read some of these comments about your loved one at such a terrible time. It is heart-wrenching and all you people can talk about is his religion. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. They are entitled to their beliefs as well as you are. Do me a favor and sit back and think of someone you love so dearly leaves for work in the morning and never comes home. Please leave the religion alone and think about the family.

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