truth2

Oak Hill, WV

#11542 Apr 6, 2013
Crowley wrote:
<quoted text>
No need to vote. Obama will just cancel the election, blame it on the sequester, and stay in office. And all of you ignorant democrats will be giddy a school girls.
Nope,Nixon already tried that.
truth2

Oak Hill, WV

#11543 Apr 6, 2013
USMC DAVE wrote:
All Hail Obama! Our master and Savior! RIGHT.
Glad to see you got your mind right.
OWTF

Kansas City, MO

#11544 Apr 6, 2013
FYI Hagatha is a very black, old, fat and ugly gross dressing transvestite. He loves getting on these forums and acting out his fantasies. He is sooo ugly that to be part of a dog and pony act he would have to wear a paper bag on his head. If you want to see what he really looks like just google him. He used to have a Facebook page also. Don't respond to the creep and he will go elsewhere.
finger

Webster Springs, WV

#11545 Apr 6, 2013
still want obama and so do you
USMC DAVE

Charleston, WV

#11546 Apr 6, 2013
truth2 wrote:
<quoted text>Glad to see you got your mind right.
You know what happens when Kings are horrible to there people don't you? Eventually the Kingdom falls. We need a good political revolution in this country.
finger

Webster Springs, WV

#11547 Apr 6, 2013
this is my post leave it alone
USMC DAVE

Charleston, WV

#11548 Apr 6, 2013
Stick your finger in it.
truth2

Oak Hill, WV

#11549 Apr 6, 2013
USMC DAVE wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what happens when Kings are horrible to there people don't you? Eventually the Kingdom falls. We need a good political revolution in this country.
Agree,we need a President to get us into unfunded wars and give tax breaks to the rich. Hey,how bout George W Bush? He meets all the requirements.
Crowley

Fairmont, WV

#11550 Apr 6, 2013
truth2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree,we need a President to get us into unfunded wars and give tax breaks to the rich. Hey,how bout George W Bush? He meets all the requirements.
Do you mean the two wars and tax breaks that were approved by congress, including your stinking, filthy, ignorant democrat representatives?
truth2

Oak Hill, WV

#11551 Apr 6, 2013
Crowley wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you mean the two wars and tax breaks that were approved by congress, including your stinking, filthy, ignorant democrat representatives?
We are not totally in disagreement regarding our WV representatives.:)
finger

Oakvale, WV

#11552 Apr 6, 2013
i am the king of topix, please leave my post
USMC DAVE

Charleston, WV

#11553 Apr 6, 2013
finger wrote:
i am the king of topix, please leave my post
Stink your finger in it.

Since: Mar 13

Point Pleasant, WV

#11554 Apr 6, 2013
Just coz he's the pres, how can he change so much get by with it? Cut SS?? Why not cut his pay for the next 3 years? His & our reps!! That should help our debt!
Zaphod

Brooklyn, NY

#11555 Apr 6, 2013
LoonieMac wrote:
Just coz he's the pres, how can he change so much get by with it? Cut SS?? Why not cut his pay for the next 3 years? His & our reps!! That should help our debt!
You sir are an idiot.
How much do you think the president makes?
As for social security, the average person didn't live past 65 when it was set up. It will have to be changed to survive.
USMC DAVE

Charleston, WV

#11556 Apr 6, 2013
Zaphod wrote:
<quoted text>You sir are an idiot.
How much do you think the president makes?
As for social security, the average person didn't live past 65 when it was set up. It will have to be changed to survive.
Well if it wasn't designed for people to receive it after retiring, why not just lump it in as part of the Federal Income Tax. It was not first set up for the government to spend like the money in the general fund. It was supposed to be set aside for retirement age and disability. Can someone explain something to me. When SS first started the older men that started putting into the program back then didn't have to pay into it for 40 quarters. But there was enough to pay benefits. Now people also pay into it and have massive heart attacks and die before they draw a dime. I don't see why it shouldn't be solvent when more money goes into it now than ever before. The reason it is going broke is because it is being used for other things than retirement.
Zaphod

Proctorville, OH

#11557 Apr 6, 2013
USMC DAVE wrote:
<quoted text>Well if it wasn't designed for people to receive it after retiring, why not just lump it in as part of the Federal Income Tax. It was not first set up for the government to spend like the money in the general fund. It was supposed to be set aside for retirement age and disability. Can someone explain something to me. When SS first started the older men that started putting into the program back then didn't have to pay into it for 40 quarters. But there was enough to pay benefits. Now people also pay into it and have massive heart attacks and die before they draw a dime. I don't see why it shouldn't be solvent when more money goes into it now than ever before. The reason it is going broke is because it is being used for other things than retirement.
Because more people take out than ever before genius. You don't think people dropped dead from heart attacks in the past? The average life span has increased if you haven't noticed. Decades ago you had a 50 to 1 ratio of people paying in to people receiving benefits now its down to 5 to 1. It's simple math. The system will have to be reformed.
USMC DAVE

Charleston, WV

#11558 Apr 6, 2013
Zaphod wrote:
<quoted text>Because more people take out than ever before genius. You don't think people dropped dead from heart attacks in the past? The average life span has increased if you haven't noticed. Decades ago you had a 50 to 1 ratio of people paying in to people receiving benefits now its down to 5 to 1. It's simple math. The system will have to be reformed.
Yeah, stop taking out of the fund to pay for other stuff for one thing. Stop the FICA holidays like he did for two years. Which that was very stupid. That makes it go broke even faster. Means test SS so you don't have Millionaires drawing out of the fund when they retire and take the stupid cap off of it to where at a specific dollar amount paid in a year for wealthy people they don't have to pay in after that dollar amount. Other than that the retirement age should stay as is and the cola should not be changed. It should raise they way it has been every year with the Cost Of Living. Stop punishing the middle class so everybody else on both ends of the spectrum can skate by. Skin in the game should be coming from the people that gets most of the benefits instead the middle class gets screwed regardless.
Zaphod

Proctorville, OH

#11559 Apr 6, 2013
USMC DAVE wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, stop taking out of the fund to pay for other stuff for one thing. Stop the FICA holidays like he did for two years. Which that was very stupid. That makes it go broke even faster. Means test SS so you don't have Millionaires drawing out of the fund when they retire and take the stupid cap off of it to where at a specific dollar amount paid in a year for wealthy people they don't have to pay in after that dollar amount. Other than that the retirement age should stay as is and the cola should not be changed. It should raise they way it has been every year with the Cost Of Living. Stop punishing the middle class so everybody else on both ends of the spectrum can skate by. Skin in the game should be coming from the people that gets most of the benefits instead the middle class gets screwed regardless.
Your answer is to stop paying out to people that make too much and also cap what goes in? How will that solve anything? They had math classes in your school didn't they? Maybe you should go back and take a few.
Arthur

United States

#11560 Apr 6, 2013
If they would put back the money they STOLE from the SS fund there wouldnt be a SS problem. They steal the money and then make everyone forfeit benefits they paid for to cover the governments theft. Something has to change.
USMC DAVE

Charleston, WV

#11561 Apr 6, 2013
Zaphod wrote:
<quoted text>Your answer is to stop paying out to people that make too much and also cap what goes in? How will that solve anything? They had math classes in your school didn't they? Maybe you should go back and take a few.
Not cap goes in take the cap off of how much is paid in by wealthier people. There is a cap now to what a wealthy person pays in. After the reach a certain dollar amount now, they stop paying in. I'm not sure exactly what the combined percentage is now we pay in our of our pay checks. I think it is 7 1/4 you pay in and the same for employer. It also gets stopped now at a particular yearly gross amount. I think it should be continued indefinitely regardless of what you make a year. The only reason that cap is on there is to help employers not employees. If employees was paying there full percentage they would have never put the cap on in the first place. Just another corporate welfare loophole.

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