2 men fight at church, toddler dies

2 men fight at church, toddler dies

There are 102 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 4, 2009, titled 2 men fight at church, toddler dies. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Officials in western Minnesota say a 14-month-old girl has died after two men fought at a church.

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badgerone

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Sep 4, 2009
What do ya got here, A couple of morons chose to get into a fight.In a Church....Over about what?probably for who owed for the last $2.00 at the Bar the night before...And some little girl had to die in the process....Thats going to look real good on your Resume's when you two D**k Heads get to prison.....pesonally,I just as soon Hang both of Ya.
Capt Cook

Titusville, FL

#2 Sep 4, 2009
Unbelievable!
Death for both of these retards.
RealMiniatures

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Sep 4, 2009
Some People Are Alive Simply becouse it's against the law to kill them
realminiatures

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Sep 4, 2009
Some People are Alive Simply Becouse it's against the Law to Kill Them
RealMiniatures

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Sep 4, 2009
realminiatures wrote:
Some People are Alive Simply Becouse it's against the Law to Kill Them
OOps sorry it got there twice.
bpollen

Netherlands

#7 Sep 4, 2009
Javier wrote:
The cops should have taken both of these scum and shot them in the parking lot. Oh, but the public would be outraged over that, wouldn't they. Liberal Minnesota Loves their losers, idiots and criminals. I mean, Liberal Minnesota ARE losers, idiots and criminals. I wonder what the cops did wrong here that all the liberals will cry foul about.
To paraphrase the inimitable Barney Frank: "What planet do you spend your time on??"

The LAW says that people get a trial before sentencing, and our state does NOT have the death penalty. Under such circumstances, for the police to simply shoot them in the parking lot would be a CRIME! Many people of ANY political persuasion tend to feel that the police are not above the law.

That being said, I think that these suspects should get a FAIR trial, and, if convicted, should get the maximum sentence available.
Baby Beluga

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Sep 4, 2009
Javier wrote:
The cops should have taken both of these scum and shot them in the parking lot. Oh, but the public would be outraged over that, wouldn't they. Liberal Minnesota Loves their losers, idiots and criminals. I mean, Liberal Minnesota ARE losers, idiots and criminals. I wonder what the cops did wrong here that all the liberals will cry foul about.
Good Show Caviar! Try to take over another venue so you and the rest of your ilk can submit 300 more whining "I can't believe we lost the election" comments. Why don't you go shove your head a little farther up Sean Hannity's arse? Take up stamp collecting or something.
03WHSGrad

Herman, MN

#9 Sep 4, 2009
Those two A-holes deserve nothing less than death. I can't believe the citizens of Wheaton ever let it go this far! I mean seriously an ex-con comes to small town America claiming he's arrived to "Save the Lost Souls" and everyone ate it up! He brought murderers, rapists, and druggies to town and no one has had the guts to stand up and speak their mind in fear of racism. Let me tell you, racism has NOTHING to do with it...it's all common sense. These are horrible people and this stuff won't stop until they are all run out of town and back to the gutters they crawled out of. I'm sick of people being afraid and having to lock their doors. A young child has died because Danny Barnes, a self proclaimed pastor, has brought hell to a once decent, small town. Sick, absolutely sick.
here we go

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Sep 4, 2009
What is wrong with people? More proof there's too many who care way to much about themselves, and so little for others. These two Einsteins decided to have a peeing contest around a baby girl, and now the baby girl is dead. Hope these two he-men are proud of themselves.
here we go

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Sep 4, 2009
03WHSGrad wrote:
Those two A-holes deserve nothing less than death. I can't believe the citizens of Wheaton ever let it go this far! I mean seriously an ex-con comes to small town America claiming he's arrived to "Save the Lost Souls" and everyone ate it up! He brought murderers, rapists, and druggies to town and no one has had the guts to stand up and speak their mind in fear of racism. Let me tell you, racism has NOTHING to do with it...it's all common sense. These are horrible people and this stuff won't stop until they are all run out of town and back to the gutters they crawled out of. I'm sick of people being afraid and having to lock their doors. A young child has died because Danny Barnes, a self proclaimed pastor, has brought hell to a once decent, small town. Sick, absolutely sick.
Wow, this is true? Thanks for the info! These stories that the PP print with so few details is maddening. It's nice to get a little background.
Golf Guy

Superior National Forest, MN

#12 Sep 4, 2009
Two morons got into a fight over a washer dryer, and the little girl got hit by a baseball bat.
here we go

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Sep 4, 2009
Golf Guy wrote:
Two morons got into a fight over a washer dryer, and the little girl got hit by a baseball bat.
This is truly nauseating. Where are you guys getting this information?
chestergrizz

Chillicothe, IL

#14 Sep 4, 2009
It really is a shame these SCUMBAGS, Danny Barnes being the biggest SCUMBAG of them all, just come right in and make themselves at home in our quiet little town and try to make people think that they are here doing the Lords work. What a crock of shit! It's about time the people of Wheaton take a stand and run these stupid sons a bitches outa here!
03WHSGrad

Herman, MN

#15 Sep 4, 2009
here we go wrote:
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Wow, this is true? Thanks for the info! These stories that the PP print with so few details is maddening. It's nice to get a little background.
It's 100% true. I grew up in Wheaton and this Danny Barnes guy came to town and has been destroying it ever since. I just watched Fox 9 news and it made him out to be a hero. He was just released from jail...again...a copule months ago. I wish the news would broadcast the things he's really doing and not just praise him for the smoke screen he's been putting up. It agrivates me every time I go to Wheaton to see what it has become.
its Me

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Sep 4, 2009
Star Trib was the only news outlet printing the full story, this is just sad:
It started with a dispute over a washer and dryer.
It ended with the death of a 14-month-old girl, hit in the head with a baseball bat during a prayer service.
The two men arrested in the Thursday night attack, as well as the dead girl's family, were members of Thy Kingdom Come Church in Wheaton, in western Minnesota, site of the attack, the church's pastor said.
Pastor Danny Barnes said he had given the washer and dryer to the girl's father, Claude Hawkins, but one of the men had felt the appliances should go to him.
Hawkins and at least one of the men had argued earlier Thursday in downtown Wheaton, the Traverse County Sheriff's Office said. The city is about 75 miles south of Moorhead, near the border with North and South Dakota.
Barnes was out of town at his son's cross country meet when he got a phone call about the dispute, which he said took place at a thrift store between 4:30 and 5 p.m.
"I thought they had resolved it, with discussion," Barnes said.
But it wasn't over.
Armed with the bat and a 2-by-4, David E. Collins and Darryl G. Kennedy burst into the church just before 7 p.m., the Sheriff's Office said.
They came in, swinging, through separate doors, said Barnes.
Collins, 56, who had the bat, went after Hawkins, who grabbed a chair to defend himself, according to the Sheriff's Office.
Within 30 seconds, the girl had been hit, Barnes said.
"It was the worst 30 seconds in time," he said.
The assailants probably didn't know that the girl had been hit, the pastor added, as Collins kept chasing Hawkins around the church.
But at some point, Collins and Kennedy left and a call went out to authorities.
The girl was taken to Wheaton Community Hospital and later to MeritCare in Fargo, N.D., where she died.
The pastor returned to Wheaton later Thursday and began trying to track down Collins. Through phone calls to relatives and others, Barnes said he caught up with him outside a bar in Brookings, S.D.
Rev Billy Joe Jim Bob

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Sep 4, 2009
Welcome to The White Trash Church.
speedy

United States

#20 Sep 4, 2009
its Me wrote:
Star Trib was the only news outlet printing the full story, this is just sad:
It started with a dispute over a washer and dryer.
It ended with the death of a 14-month-old girl, hit in the head with a baseball bat during a prayer service.
The two men arrested in the Thursday night attack, as well as the dead girl's family, were members of Thy Kingdom Come Church in Wheaton, in western Minnesota, site of the attack, the church's pastor said.
Pastor Danny Barnes said he had given the washer and dryer to the girl's father, Claude Hawkins, but one of the men had felt the appliances should go to him.
Hawkins and at least one of the men had argued earlier Thursday in downtown Wheaton, the Traverse County Sheriff's Office said. The city is about 75 miles south of Moorhead, near the border with North and South Dakota.
Barnes was out of town at his son's cross country meet when he got a phone call about the dispute, which he said took place at a thrift store between 4:30 and 5 p.m.
"I thought they had resolved it, with discussion," Barnes said.
But it wasn't over.
Armed with the bat and a 2-by-4, David E. Collins and Darryl G. Kennedy burst into the church just before 7 p.m., the Sheriff's Office said.
They came in, swinging, through separate doors, said Barnes.
Collins, 56, who had the bat, went after Hawkins, who grabbed a chair to defend himself, according to the Sheriff's Office.
Within 30 seconds, the girl had been hit, Barnes said.
"It was the worst 30 seconds in time," he said.
The assailants probably didn't know that the girl had been hit, the pastor added, as Collins kept chasing Hawkins around the church.
But at some point, Collins and Kennedy left and a call went out to authorities.
The girl was taken to Wheaton Community Hospital and later to MeritCare in Fargo, N.D., where she died.
The pastor returned to Wheaton later Thursday and began trying to track down Collins. Through phone calls to relatives and others, Barnes said he caught up with him outside a bar in Brookings, S.D.
It is cases like this that make me question my stance on the death penalty. I am very conservative, yet anti death penalty, maybe a healthy dis-trust of government makes me this way. But, this seems pretty cut and dried, plenty of witnesses, no doubt what happened.
The fact that it happened to an innocent baby in the first stages of life tugs at me and makes me realize these mentally deficient adults took an entire lifetime and future from someone who never knew what happened. It is sickening and sad.
Maybe I should rethink my stance in certain cases. I would rather see scumbags like this never draw another breath than an innocent be aborted or have life cut short like in this case.
What the h e l l kind of world have we created?
Sad

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Sep 4, 2009
I truly can't believe how horrible this is. Really? A little kid hit in the head with a baseball bat....in chuch...over a f&)&#ng washer and dryer? Sometimes I really can't believe this kind of evil stuff happens.
perry

United States

#22 Sep 5, 2009
Good reporting speedy.
Mrs R

Maple Grove, MN

#23 Sep 5, 2009
Here's the last couple of lines from the Strib:

"Barnes also plans to minister to the men and the girl's family, to get the men to pray for forgiveness and repentance, and to help the girl's family find a way to forgive.

"I hope when we get through this terrible tragedy, something is learned.""

Isn't that just priceless?

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