Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as ...

Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire

There are 71243 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 18, 2009, titled Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Israeli troops began withdrawing from the Gaza Strip on Sunday after Hamas declared a cease-fire, setting the stage for intensified international efforts to arrange a durable truce after a 22-day war against ...

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Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#66456 Dec 16, 2012
I received this from a friend, it is quite good and worth the time it takes to read.





During the Gaza crisis last week, British Foreign Secretary, William
Hague, warned Israel that if it sent troops into Gaza to confront
Hamas, it risked losing the sympathy of the international community.
On November 19th, a Jewish woman in Britain , Mindy Wiesenberg, sent the
following letter to Mr. Hague, in response. The letter has been
published in many newspapers, including the Times of Israel .
Dear Mr Hague:
You have stated that if Israel tries to defend its population through a
ground offensive in Gaza ‘it risks losing the sympathy of the
international community.’

Let me tell you something about the sympathy of the international
community Mr Hague. My father was liberated from Buchenwald
concentration camp in 1945, having lost his entire family but gaining
the sympathy of the international community at the time. After 6 million
Jews had been annihilated at the hands of the Nazi regime, the
international community had plenty of sympathy for the Jewish people.
There is always plenty of sympathy for victims.
Israel doesn’t need the sympathy of the international community.
What it needs is to defend its citizens.
When as a tiny country it gained its independence in 1948 it had to
absorb 800,000 Jews who were thrown out of Arab lands in the Middle
East, and it did so without fuss and with dignity giving them shelter
and a place of security in which their children could grow up to become
productive citizens. When Jordan , Egypt , Lebanon and Syria tried to
destroy Israel in 1948 and again in 1967 they took in hundreds of
thousands of Palestinian Arabs, but did they give them dignity or
shelter? No they left them to rot in refugee camps in order to maintain
a symbol of grievance against Israel and use them as a political tool
against the Jewish state. What has arisen in those camps is a
complicated situation, but it is what has led to Gaza today.
So don’t lecture Israel on international sympathy Mr Hague.
Not when Israel has just sent in 120 truck loads of food into Gaza to
feed the Palestinian people there, because their own leadership is more
interested in using its population as human shields, launching rockets
against Israel from within major civilian centres.
Don’t lecture Israel on international sympathy Mr Hague.
Not when Israel targets with as much military precision as it can, only
terrorists and their bases, trying its utmost to prevent civilian
casualties.
Don’t lecture Israel on international sympathy Mr Hague.
Not when the Palestinian media deliberately uses images of victims of
the Syrian civil war and presents them as casualties in Gaza to gain
international sympathy.
Go read your history books Mr Hague, go see that since the beginning of
the twentieth century all the Arabs wanted to do was destroy Israel . Go
look at the country of Israel now since the Jews have established a
state there. Go read what advances in science, medicine, biotechnology,
agriculture and high tech Israel has developed, and dedicated that
knowledge to making the world a better place for humanity. Can you
imagine any other country that after 60 years of continuously being
under attack could have achieved so much.
So Mr Hague don’t lecture Israel on international sympathy.
Israel will do whatever it takes to defend itself from outright attack
on its citizens, whether it be from Hamas, Hizbollah , Iran or any other
country or terrorist group that attacks it.
And if it loses the sympathy of the international community so be it.
We don’t need the international community’s sympathy. We don’t need
another 6 million victims.
Yours sincerely
MINDY WIESENBERG

Ize Lost

Naugatuck, CT

#66457 Dec 16, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text> OK. Bye.
For real? Say Hi to Veeky for me.:>)

“Proud Southerner”

Since: May 07

Israel, betach b'HaShem!

#66459 Dec 16, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text> OK. Bye.
Don't bang into the door on your way out
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#66460 Dec 16, 2012

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66461 Dec 16, 2012
voice of peace wrote:
.
TRD ... can you imagine two F16's coming at you .. and changing course at the last minute..??
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-431...
Funny you should mention that. The last flight before I sold my Cessna was enhanced by a meeting with a flight of F-16s on their way to the Avon Park bombing range. There were no surprises as I got a heads-up from departure control that I had jets overtaking me co-altitude.

A close friend restored a P-51 and he regularly jumps the planes coming off the range for a little air-to-air practice. He holds his own pretty well against the young guys and they love to watch the old plane work.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66463 Dec 16, 2012
Ize Lost wrote:
<quoted text>
For real? Say Hi to Veeky for me.:>)
Yep. I'm out...
Until the next war...
Rambone

Duncanville, TX

#66465 Dec 16, 2012
You reap what you sow........what goes around comes around.........

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-woes-of-an-a...
Ize Lost

Naugatuck, CT

#66466 Dec 16, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. I'm out...
Until the next war...
Well, you livened things up a bit. Stop by once in awhile. Lipush will miss you.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66467 Dec 16, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. I'm out...
Until the next war...
Fine, but don't be shocked when you have to go through a checkpoint to get back in here. This thread is occupied :)

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66468 Dec 16, 2012
Rambone wrote:
You reap what you sow........what goes around comes around.........
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-woes-of-an-a...
Thanks Stewy, if not complete fiction it certainly had the opposite effect on me than was intended. I so wish I had that job.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66469 Dec 16, 2012
voice of peace wrote:
.
Soy bean, here's a question I've been asking all Palestinians.
On what terms would you sign a peace treaty with Natanyahu..??
.
Even I know the answer to that one.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#66470 Dec 16, 2012
voice of peace wrote:
.
Soy bean, tzures in Damascus..
On the five o'clock news...they just announced that someone got Assad Jr. pissed ... and Bashar ordered an airforce attack at the Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp by Damascus..
Khaled Mashall anticipated that shit was going to hit the fan in Syria.... and he run away with his family from Syria to Jordan, leaving the Palestinian refugees in Syria unprotected like sitting ducks.
What's your take on this one, soy bean ... you sound like somebody that knows a thing or two..
.
Apparently it is ok, almost expected, for Muslims to kill each other. Hezbollah, and other Shi'ite Muslim tribes are sending fighters and weapons into Syria to help Assad's continued slaughter of Sunni Muslims.
Rambone

Duncanville, TX

#66473 Dec 17, 2012

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66474 Dec 17, 2012
Rambone wrote:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.u k/?p=62179
So Stewy, do you even read the shit you post?
According to your "source", the drone they captured had been aloft for 171 years.

And you wonder why we're skeptical...pffffftttt.
Ize Lost

Sherman, CT

#66475 Dec 17, 2012
And the headlines for today?

Voice of America

Officials: Landmine Kills 10 Girls in E. Afghanistan
Voice of America - &#8206;48 minutes ago&#8206;

Afghan officials say 10 young girls died in an explosion in eastern Afghanistan as they were collecting firewood Monday. Authorities say they believe the blast came from an old landmine, one of many that are still hidden in fields and rural areas across the ...
Voice of America

Multiple Bombings in Northern Iraq Claim Dozens
Voice of America - &#8206;7 minutes ago&#8206;

Iraqi authorities say bombings and shootings across the country have killed at least 26 people, about half of them in northern regions whose territory is disputed between autonomous Iraqi Kurds and Baghdad's central government.
Livemint

Car bomb kills 17 in crowded market in Pakistan - latimes.com
Los Angeles Times - &#8206;3 hours ago&#8206;


PESHAWAR, Pakistan -- Militants detonated a car bomb at a bustling market in Pakistan's volatile tribal belt Monday, killing at least 17 people and injuring more than 70 others just two days after Pakistani Taliban fighters launched a coordinated assault on an ..

Peace be with you
Freedom Terrorister

Schaumburg, IL

#66476 Dec 17, 2012
Happy Chrismukkah & Merry New Thanksgiving to LWScienceJunkie, Rinnisons Man, Ize, Marie, Gabi from California, VOP, Eran, Lipush, NaNa, Uzi, CrazyHere, Fearless, and to all the other Americans and Israelis here!!!

Dang, this old thread just keeps on keepin on, huh? lulz!

As far as little guilty pleasure distractions, it does something pretty rare in the chaotic, tard-filled world of the Intehwebz: it provides surprising CONTEXT & CONTINUITY. And not just vis a vis 'The Conflict'... but even on a personal level, too. Pretty much Charts how we and our views matured or changed.

To think when I started to drive-by post here in early 2009 IIRC, I was still freakin 14 years old! Mercy!!!

But holiday-break upon, why not indulge in some fine old-fashioned memory-lane clusterf*ckery!
So what has happened in Sparta-times-100 that I missed last 2 years or whatever?

Leviathan & Tamar gas fields, plus shale oil, promising to be a game-changer.

Daphne Leef, Itzik Shmuli and the rest of their George Soros-funded Starbucks Revolutionary gang.... tried to depose Netanyahu. Something about cottage cheese & free condos in downtown Manhatten....OOPS, Epic phail!

Iron Dome deployed; proving its many critics wrong. Magic Wand & Arrow-3 likewise are almost here.

Certain someone has taken out 2/3 of Shahab-3 stock & its chief missile expert. Then couple more mysterious explosions at specialized centrifuge-steel plant manned by Norks few months later. Then Duqu & Flame. Then certain someones cut the cables at Fordo and dropped some, um, bolts in Bushehr. Then the IRGC-built Sudanese arms factory & storage spontaneously combusted. Hezbollah chief financier de-camped, turning over a million pages of documents....

Then a little Amud Anan skirmish took out Hamas commanders, 100 Fajr-5, and billions-dollar worth of Iranian-built under-ground launchers, C&C centers, bunkers, tunnels, generators and other symbols of Hamas power. Not bad. Bibi once again out-smarted everyone by NOT getting bogged-down in a mini-Vietnam in Gaza before the elections.

And of course as a residual benefit, now the world's focus has shifted from "Ebbyl Zioneests" back to Assad's chemical WMD & Iran. A win-win.

Admittedly, through crazy, awesome, practically sleep-free year+, I probably missed a few other things... Oh yeah, the Darling of the "Progressive" elites and TRD... Mr. Moderation Himself.... the Holocaust-denying financier of the 1972 Olympic Massacre.... The very man who uttered the famous "33 No's" --- MAHMOUD ABBAS --- casually tore up the Oslo Accords much like the pious Muslims casually tear up the under-developed hymen of their 9-year old "mistresses".

LOL, like that was such a surprise!

But hey, I hear Israel's new "It Girl", Yair Lapid -- see: slightly better looking George Stephanopolous, minus roughly 50 IQ points and Rhodes scholarship.... is going to save the day, woot-whoo-hoo!

Or maybe it will be plastic surgery maven, Shelley Yachimovich, bless her marxist-wannabe heart. I guess it wasn't enough for her, as part of the "4 Mothers" traveling circus, to help surrender South Lebanon to Hezbollah..... And then there is Eran Levi's "eminently over-qualified" idol, Tzipora Livni going on her, what, 5th different party? Hey lady, parties aren't like D&G purses/shoes, mmkays?

In summation: Life is good, God is great, school's fun; shawties are bezzzanglin'... and vice versa.

What else can a playa axe 4?!

_

np:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G244bmhbJ...

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G2utbmhbb...

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G2tnunhbb...

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66478 Dec 17, 2012
Ize Lost wrote:
And the headlines for today?
Voice of America
Officials: Landmine Kills 10 Girls in E. Afghanistan
Voice of America - &#8206;48 minutes ago&#8206;
Afghan officials say 10 young girls died in an explosion in eastern Afghanistan as they were collecting firewood Monday. Authorities say they believe the blast came from an old landmine, one of many that are still hidden in fields and rural areas across the ...
Voice of America
Multiple Bombings in Northern Iraq Claim Dozens
Voice of America - &#8206;7 minutes ago&#8206;
Iraqi authorities say bombings and shootings across the country have killed at least 26 people, about half of them in northern regions whose territory is disputed between autonomous Iraqi Kurds and Baghdad's central government.
Livemint
Car bomb kills 17 in crowded market in Pakistan - latimes.com
Los Angeles Times - &#8206;3 hours ago&#8206;
PESHAWAR, Pakistan -- Militants detonated a car bomb at a bustling market in Pakistan's volatile tribal belt Monday, killing at least 17 people and injuring more than 70 others just two days after Pakistani Taliban fighters launched a coordinated assault on an ..
Peace be with you
Slow day, huh?

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66479 Dec 17, 2012
Freedom Terrorister wrote:
Happy Chrismukkah & Merry New Thanksgiving to LWScienceJunkie, Rinnisons Man, Ize, Marie, Gabi from California, VOP, Eran, Lipush, NaNa, Uzi, CrazyHere, Fearless, and to all the other Americans and Israelis here!!!
Dang, this old thread just keeps on keepin on, huh? lulz!
As far as little guilty pleasure distractions, it does something pretty rare in the chaotic, tard-filled world of the Intehwebz: it provides surprising CONTEXT & CONTINUITY. And not just vis a vis 'The Conflict'... but even on a personal level, too. Pretty much Charts how we and our views matured or changed.
To think when I started to drive-by post here in early 2009 IIRC, I was still freakin 14 years old! Mercy!!!
But holiday-break upon, why not indulge in some fine old-fashioned memory-lane clusterf*ckery!
So what has happened in Sparta-times-100 that I missed last 2 years or whatever?
Leviathan & Tamar gas fields, plus shale oil, promising to be a game-changer.
Daphne Leef, Itzik Shmuli and the rest of their George Soros-funded Starbucks Revolutionary gang.... tried to depose Netanyahu. Something about cottage cheese & free condos in downtown Manhatten....OOPS, Epic phail!
Iron Dome deployed; proving its many critics wrong. Magic Wand & Arrow-3 likewise are almost here.
Certain someone has taken out 2/3 of Shahab-3 stock & its chief missile expert. Then couple more mysterious explosions at specialized centrifuge-steel plant manned by Norks few months later. Then Duqu & Flame. Then certain someones cut the cables at Fordo and dropped some, um, bolts in Bushehr. Then the IRGC-built Sudanese arms factory & storage spontaneously combusted. Hezbollah chief financier de-camped, turning over a million pages of documents....
Then a little Amud Anan skirmish took out Hamas commanders, 100 Fajr-5, and billions-dollar worth of Iranian-built under-ground launchers, C&C centers, bunkers, tunnels, generators and other symbols of Hamas power. Not bad. Bibi once again out-smarted everyone by NOT getting bogged-down in a mini-Vietnam in Gaza before the elections.
And of course as a residual benefit, now the world's focus has shifted from "Ebbyl Zioneests" back to Assad's chemical WMD & Iran. A win-win.
Admittedly, through crazy, awesome, practically sleep-free year+, I probably missed a few other things... Oh yeah, the Darling of the "Progressive" elites and TRD... Mr. Moderation Himself.... the Holocaust-denying financier of the 1972 Olympic Massacre.... The very man who uttered the famous "33 No's" --- MAHMOUD ABBAS --- casually tore up the Oslo Accords much like the pious Muslims casually tear up the under-developed hymen of their 9-year old "mistresses".
LOL, like that was such a surprise!
But hey, I hear Israel's new "It Girl", Yair Lapid -- see: slightly better looking George Stephanopolous, minus roughly 50 IQ points and Rhodes scholarship.... is going to save the day, woot-whoo-hoo!
Or maybe it will be plastic surgery maven, Shelley Yachimovich, bless her marxist-wannabe heart. I guess it wasn't enough for her, as part of the "4 Mothers" traveling circus, to help surrender South Lebanon to Hezbollah..... And then there is Eran Levi's "eminently over-qualified" idol, Tzipora Livni going on her, what, 5th different party? Hey lady, parties aren't like D&G purses/shoes, mmkays?
In summation: Life is good, God is great, school's fun; shawties are bezzzanglin'... and vice versa.
What else can a playa axe 4?!
_
np:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G244bmhbJ...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G2utbmhbb...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G2tnunhbb...
As I live and breath...

"But holiday-break upon, why not indulge in some fine old-fashioned memory-lane clusterf*ckery!"

<kvel>

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66480 Dec 17, 2012
Freedom Terrorister wrote:
Happy Chrismukkah & Merry New Thanksgiving to LWScienceJunkie, Rinnisons Man, Ize, Marie, Gabi from California, VOP, Eran, Lipush, NaNa, Uzi, CrazyHere, Fearless, and to all the other Americans and Israelis here!!!
Dang, this old thread just keeps on keepin on, huh? lulz!
As far as little guilty pleasure distractions, it does something pretty rare in the chaotic, tard-filled world of the Intehwebz: it provides surprising CONTEXT & CONTINUITY. And not just vis a vis 'The Conflict'... but even on a personal level, too. Pretty much Charts how we and our views matured or changed.
To think when I started to drive-by post here in early 2009 IIRC, I was still freakin 14 years old! Mercy!!!
But holiday-break upon, why not indulge in some fine old-fashioned memory-lane clusterf*ckery!
So what has happened in Sparta-times-100 that I missed last 2 years or whatever?
Leviathan & Tamar gas fields, plus shale oil, promising to be a game-changer.
Daphne Leef, Itzik Shmuli and the rest of their George Soros-funded Starbucks Revolutionary gang.... tried to depose Netanyahu. Something about cottage cheese & free condos in downtown Manhatten....OOPS, Epic phail!
Iron Dome deployed; proving its many critics wrong. Magic Wand & Arrow-3 likewise are almost here.
Certain someone has taken out 2/3 of Shahab-3 stock & its chief missile expert. Then couple more mysterious explosions at specialized centrifuge-steel plant manned by Norks few months later. Then Duqu & Flame. Then certain someones cut the cables at Fordo and dropped some, um, bolts in Bushehr. Then the IRGC-built Sudanese arms factory & storage spontaneously combusted. Hezbollah chief financier de-camped, turning over a million pages of documents....
Then a little Amud Anan skirmish took out Hamas commanders, 100 Fajr-5, and billions-dollar worth of Iranian-built under-ground launchers, C&C centers, bunkers, tunnels, generators and other symbols of Hamas power. Not bad. Bibi once again out-smarted everyone by NOT getting bogged-down in a mini-Vietnam in Gaza before the elections.
And of course as a residual benefit, now the world's focus has shifted from "Ebbyl Zioneests" back to Assad's chemical WMD & Iran. A win-win.
Admittedly, through crazy, awesome, practically sleep-free year+, I probably missed a few other things... Oh yeah, the Darling of the "Progressive" elites and TRD... Mr. Moderation Himself.... the Holocaust-denying financier of the 1972 Olympic Massacre.... The very man who uttered the famous "33 No's" --- MAHMOUD ABBAS --- casually tore up the Oslo Accords much like the pious Muslims casually tear up the under-developed hymen of their 9-year old "mistresses".
LOL, like that was such a surprise!
But hey, I hear Israel's new "It Girl", Yair Lapid -- see: slightly better looking George Stephanopolous, minus roughly 50 IQ points and Rhodes scholarship.... is going to save the day, woot-whoo-hoo!
Or maybe it will be plastic surgery maven, Shelley Yachimovich, bless her marxist-wannabe heart. I guess it wasn't enough for her, as part of the "4 Mothers" traveling circus, to help surrender South Lebanon to Hezbollah..... And then there is Eran Levi's "eminently over-qualified" idol, Tzipora Livni going on her, what, 5th different party? Hey lady, parties aren't like D&G purses/shoes, mmkays?
In summation: Life is good, God is great, school's fun; shawties are bezzzanglin'... and vice versa.
What else can a playa axe 4?!
_
np:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G244bmhbJ...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G2utbmhbb...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G2tnunhbb...
As I live and breath...

"But holiday-break upon, why not indulge in some fine old-fashioned memory-lane clusterf*ckery!"

{kvel}
Ize Lost

Sherman, CT

#66481 Dec 17, 2012
Freedom Terrorister wrote:
Happy Chrismukkah & Merry New Thanksgiving to LWScienceJunkie, Rinnisons Man, Ize, Marie, Gabi from California, VOP, Eran, Lipush, NaNa, Uzi, CrazyHere, Fearless, and to all the other Americans and Israelis here!!!
Dang, this old thread just keeps on keepin on, huh? lulz!
As far as little guilty pleasure distractions, it does something pretty rare in the chaotic, tard-filled world of the Intehwebz: it provides surprising CONTEXT & CONTINUITY. And not just vis a vis 'The Conflict'... but even on a personal level, too. Pretty much Charts how we and our views matured or changed.
To think when I started to drive-by post here in early 2009 IIRC, I was still freakin 14 years old! Mercy!!!
But holiday-break upon, why not indulge in some fine old-fashioned memory-lane clusterf*ckery!
So what has happened in Sparta-times-100 that I missed last 2 years or whatever?
Leviathan & Tamar gas fields, plus shale oil, promising to be a game-changer.
Daphne Leef, Itzik Shmuli and the rest of their George Soros-funded Starbucks Revolutionary gang.... tried to depose Netanyahu. Something about cottage cheese & free condos in downtown Manhatten....OOPS, Epic phail!
Iron Dome deployed; proving its many critics wrong. Magic Wand & Arrow-3 likewise are almost here.
Certain someone has taken out 2/3 of Shahab-3 stock & its chief missile expert. Then couple more mysterious explosions at specialized centrifuge-steel plant manned by Norks few months later. Then Duqu & Flame. Then certain someones cut the cables at Fordo and dropped some, um, bolts in Bushehr. Then the IRGC-built Sudanese arms factory & storage spontaneously combusted. Hezbollah chief financier de-camped, turning over a million pages of documents....
Then a little Amud Anan skirmish took out Hamas commanders, 100 Fajr-5, and billions-dollar worth of Iranian-built under-ground launchers, C&C centers, bunkers, tunnels, generators and other symbols of Hamas power. Not bad. Bibi once again out-smarted everyone by NOT getting bogged-down in a mini-Vietnam in Gaza before the elections.
And of course as a residual benefit, now the world's focus has shifted from "Ebbyl Zioneests" back to Assad's chemical WMD & Iran. A win-win.
Admittedly, through crazy, awesome, practically sleep-free year+, I probably missed a few other things... Oh yeah, the Darling of the "Progressive" elites and TRD... Mr. Moderation Himself.... the Holocaust-denying financier of the 1972 Olympic Massacre.... The very man who uttered the famous "33 No's" --- MAHMOUD ABBAS --- casually tore up the Oslo Accords much like the pious Muslims casually tear up the under-developed hymen of their 9-year old "mistresses".
LOL, like that was such a surprise!
But hey, I hear Israel's new "It Girl", Yair Lapid -- see: slightly better looking George Stephanopolous, minus roughly 50 IQ points and Rhodes scholarship.... is going to save the day, woot-whoo-hoo!
Or maybe it will be plastic surgery maven, Shelley Yachimovich, bless her marxist-wannabe heart. I guess it wasn't enough for her, as part of the "4 Mothers" traveling circus, to help surrender South Lebanon to Hezbollah..... And then there is Eran Levi's "eminently over-qualified" idol, Tzipora Livni going on her, what, 5th different party? Hey lady, parties aren't like D&G purses/shoes, mmkays?
In summation: Life is good, God is great, school's fun; shawties are bezzzanglin'... and vice versa.
What else can a playa axe 4?!
_
np:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G244bmhbJ...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G2utbmhbb...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-tJ7G2tnunhbb...
Missed ya!!!! I recently told Ahmad to say Hi to you because he left until the next shootout. He was here raising hell. Maybe he got a glimpse of the nickel plated .45.:>)

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