Grief Over Gun Permits -- Courant.com

Grief Over Gun Permits -- Courant.com

There are 313 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Oct 8, 2007, titled Grief Over Gun Permits -- Courant.com. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

James Goldberg was never in trouble with the law, never even had a traffic ticket.

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Dave f

Chester, CT

#1 Oct 8, 2007
this is what happens when you try and do things the way the law requires you to do, gun permits..
if this man had a gun permit what was the problem. the gun seems to have been conceiled, what have we got here some over ambitious police officer......... who should be out taking guns off the street from people with no permits....
cops

Bristol, CT

#2 Oct 8, 2007
Abuse of authority is common place among many if not all police agencies in this state. Just look into the East Hampton police department as only one example.
Glastonbury's cheif Swenny is obviously a complete MORON. The charges were dropped idiot. Does that tell you anything aside from the waste of taxpayer's money that took place with your blessing? When they cannot think of anything else Breach of Peace is one of their favorite charges . Right PUNKS ?
I have witnessed the useless jerks in Glastonbury first hand!
So I guess people who want to have guns to protect themselves will now be doing it ILLEGALLY because the inept police cannot or more likley will not follow the law making themselves law breakers.
COPS lawbreakers ! What a surprise !
Rakim

Sandy Hook, CT

#3 Oct 8, 2007
Why was Goldberg even charged? The man has a legit gun permit. I understand the complaint, but the Glastonbury cop should have done anything once he saw the permit. After all, isn't that why you get a permit?
Rakim

Sandy Hook, CT

#4 Oct 8, 2007
Why was Goldberg even charged? The man has a legit gun permit. I understand the complaint, but the Glastonbury cop shouldn't have done anything once he saw the permit. After all, isn't that why you get a permit?
traveler

Berlin, CT

#5 Oct 8, 2007
They did it to me and I gave up.I think its there way of controling the amount of pistols in the state.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#7 Oct 8, 2007
This entire incident was legal. From the cooperative victim/gun owner, to the permit.

Yet this guy gets arrested?

Time to set a precedent, sue their asses!!!!!!!!!
One who knows

Meriden, CT

#8 Oct 8, 2007
This situation is caused by members of law enforcement not knowing the law, and the State Police creating their own laws. In a similar debate Rep. Michael Lawlor said:

Lawlor said there has been an ongoing debate on whether drunken driving constitutes a crime or a motor vehicle violation. "It's a big, technical debate that's gone on a long time. In my mind, it's a crime, and I think the law has to be absolutely clear," he said.

The laws that allow people to obtain permits to carry and the laws regarding the manner in which individuals may carry a firearm DO NOT MANDATE that the weapon be concealed, yet people are harrassed and improperly arrested by police officers who do not know the law.

The State Police make up their own laws, and did NOT LEARN ANYTHING from the major investigation of their policies and proceedures last year.

Now, every individual involved will be afforded the oppurtunity to explain their actions UNDER OATH in the various deposisitons and court hearings that will take place.

If you want to hear stupid statements and listen to the arrogance of the State Police, go to this website and listen for yourself.

http://www.ourrockyhill.com/BOFPE.Clips.htm

The Board of Firearms Permit Examiners meets this Thursday at State Police Headquarters in Middletown at 1:30pm. Everyone who enjoys going to a comedy club should take the time and attend this meeting, there is no charge for admission and it's the best entertainment in the state.
bwana

Wethersfield, CT

#9 Oct 8, 2007
The state police have been doing this for years...the fact that they are well known to 'settle cases'(that have been on the waiting list for over a year or two, ON THE DAY OF THEIR SCHEDULED hearings, shows everyone that they had NO BASIS for the REVOCATION in the first place... It is their 'arrogance' and their attitude that "only the police should be allowed to carry sidearms" that is the REAL problem.....their 'threatening' people has to be made to stop...
Simsbury_Grrl

Pleasanton, CA

#10 Oct 8, 2007
So - lets see here. The man has a permit to carry, he is carrying concealed, some idiot waitress gets a glimpse of the gun, freaks out and calls the cops and this guy is even arrested???? Usually I come out on the side of the cops, but in this instance, they deserve "Dolt of the Year" awards.

So these ridiculous charges are dropped and this guy still has to wait months to go before some review board. This is just another example of how little common sense plays in local and state government. Good for these guys - sue the state.
One who knows

Meriden, CT

#11 Oct 8, 2007
You may also read various postings on this topic at:

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum14/
or
http://www.ycgg.org/legal_pg.html

You will be able to read the actual Federal Complaint filed by Firearms Board member and Secretary Mr. Peter Kuck together with his internal affairs complaint against Det. Thomas Karanda of the Firearms Unit.

IT IS INTERESTING READING, AND SHINES LIGHT ON WHAT IS GOING ON.

I'M SURE THAT WHEN JAMES GOLDBERG FILES, THAT COMPLAINT WILL BE POSTED ALSO. SO BOOK MARK THESE WEBSITES IN YOUR FAVORITE PLACES AND CHECK BACK OFTEN TO FOLLOW THIS ISSUE.
Best Wishes

Manchester, CT

#12 Oct 8, 2007
is someone talking to themselves or we just have a lot of Wethersfield posters?

BTW you wont have time to do "jack" in a home invasion with your pistol locked in the safe in the back of the walk-in closet.
Edward Peruta

Barnesville, OH

#13 Oct 8, 2007
The location is generated based on the Internet provider you use to access and post to this site, not where you live.

Call you mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, neighbors and friends and tell them about this issue.

Consider this, the Courant only had so much room to report the issue, and there is MUCH more to this story that didn't make it in the article. Pay attention, because more information will come out later.

Now let's see if anyone from the visual media attends the Firearms Board meetings to expose what's going on.
cops

Bristol, CT

#14 Oct 8, 2007
Rakim wrote:
Why was Goldberg even charged? The man has a legit gun permit. I understand the complaint, but the Glastonbury cop should have done anything once he saw the permit. After all, isn't that why you get a permit?
Because the GLASTONBURY COPS ARE UNPROFESSIONAL IDIOTS SANCTIONED AND APPROVED BY THE CHIEF.
Rich

AOL

#15 Oct 8, 2007
Dave f wrote:
this is what happens when you try and do things the way the law requires you to do, gun permits..
if this man had a gun permit what was the problem. the gun seems to have been conceiled, what have we got here some over ambitious police officer......... who should be out taking guns off the street from people with no permits....
Vermont and Alaska use the 2nd Amendment as their permits.It works there.

“Smoked”

Since: Aug 07

United States

#16 Oct 8, 2007
Correct. Everyone should keep a 1,000,000 volt Taser on their nightstand. Perfectly legal and hassel free to buy and use, in your home.
Best Wishes wrote:
is someone talking to themselves or we just have a lot of Wethersfield posters?
BTW you wont have time to do "jack" in a home invasion with your pistol locked in the safe in the back of the walk-in closet.
Rich

AOL

#17 Oct 8, 2007
Rakim wrote:
Why was Goldberg even charged? The man has a legit gun permit. I understand the complaint, but the Glastonbury cop should have done anything once he saw the permit. After all, isn't that why you get a permit?
He was probably arrested because the cops manhandled him and had to justify their means by making some sort of arrest. CYA
nameless one

Arlington, VT

#18 Oct 8, 2007
Beth please know the law

Sec. 53a-217. Criminal possession of a firearm or electronic defense weapon: Class D felony.(a) A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm or electronic defense weapon when such person possesses a firearm or electronic defense weapon and (1) has been convicted of a felony,(2) has been convicted as delinquent for the commission of a serious juvenile offense, as defined in section 46b-120,(3) knows that such person is subject to (A) a restraining or protective order of a court of this state that has been issued against such person, after notice and an opportunity to be heard has been provided to such person, in a case involving the use, attempted use or threatened use of physical force against another person, or (B) a foreign order of protection, as defined in section 46b-15a, that has been issued against such person in a case involving the use, attempted use or threatened use of physical force against another person,(4) knows that such person is subject to a firearms seizure order issued pursuant to subsection (d) of section 29-38c after notice and an opportunity to be heard has been provided to such person, or (5) is prohibited from shipping, transporting, possessing or receiving a firearm pursuant to 18 USC 922(g)(4). For the purposes of this section, "convicted" means having a judgment of conviction entered by a court of competent jurisdiction.

(b) Criminal possession of a firearm or electronic defense weapon is a class D felony, for which two years of the sentence imposed may not be suspended or reduced by the court.
Retired cop

AOL

#19 Oct 8, 2007
To the Glastonbury cop, there was no intent. You might want to freshen up on your penal code. Just a friendly nudge. Oh, you might want to take your supervisor with you, I hope this arrest was not executed by one.
Rich

AOL

#20 Oct 8, 2007
Middletown Joe wrote:
This entire incident was legal. From the cooperative victim/gun owner, to the permit.
Yet this guy gets arrested?
Time to set a precedent, sue their asses!!!!!!!!!
...The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be INFRINGED
So this entire incident was in fact illegal.
The 2nd Amendment was written so that the average person could understand it's meaning.
Those that would INFRINGE upon our rights try to pretend that this Amendment was written like an apocalyptic Bible passage open to all sorts of interpretations.
Permits are an infringement.Paying for permits is an infringement.
In fact these infringements are illegal.
As a side note the person that called the police should be sued as well.
Eden Pastora

AOL

#21 Oct 8, 2007
Edward Peruta wrote:
The location is generated based on the Internet provider you use to access and post to this site, not where you live.
Call you mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, neighbors and friends and tell them about this issue.
Consider this, the Courant only had so much room to report the issue, and there is MUCH more to this story that didn't make it in the article. Pay attention, because more information will come out later.
Now let's see if anyone from the visual media attends the Firearms Board meetings to expose what's going on.
You are a good man Peruta!!

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