Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63114 Nov 20, 2013
WAS JESUS CONCEIVED DURING A SATANIC CEREMONY?

There exist several possibilities regarding Jesus' conception.

Here they are:

1) Jesus was sired by a Roman soldier or by the man who had sexual intercourse with Mary.

2) Or perhaps, Mary was raped by a relative or by a neighbor and as a result became pregnant.

3) It's also a distinct possibility that Jesus was sired by a priest or a rabbi during a Satanic ceremony involving ritual sex and blood offering when El, the blood thirsty deity of the Babylonians who was worshipped as G-d by the Jews, was invoked in the womb of Mary. This could be the reason Jesus showed occult powers from a young age and considered himself an incarnation of El and this also accounts for Jesus' savage teachings based on division, destruction of family values, abuses, curses, threats, tribalism, fanaticism, anti-peace rhetoric, calls for murder of his opponents, killing a fig tree and the like.

4) Judaism has a long account of pure sorcery as seen in its chosen Babylonian deity (El or YHVH), the blood rituals, the barbaric behavior of its patriarchs, the burnt offerings of animal flesh, the cannibalism, the mass murders, the rapes, the infanticides, the incest and the rampant cruelty that comes naturally to possessed human beings.

5) Joseph wanted to end the marriage on discovering that his newly wed wife, Mary, was pregnant but was convinced by some powerful people to maintain it and so a story was cooked up of how Mary's pregnancy was a case of a virgin conceiving by the power of a spirit.

6) The most plausible explanation regarding the conception of Jesus in Mary's womb given Jesus' occult personality and in view of the long tradition of sorcery in Judaism is that Jesus was conceived during a satanic ceremony involving ritual sex and blood sacrifice and the invoking of a demonic power - that of El - into the sperm-zygote formed in Mary's womb.

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#63115 Nov 20, 2013
Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad were born into families were the occult or where sorcery was practiced as the form of religion.

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#63117 Nov 20, 2013
Sorcery = witchcraft

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#63118 Nov 20, 2013
The synagogues, churches and mosques everywhere
radiate that characteristic subtle foul smell and the trademark vampiristic force that indicate the presence of the Demonic Force (El or EL-Jesus or Allah) being propitiated in their premises by the teachers, priests and believers. Among these, the worst effect is felt in synagogues. Not surprisingly, ardent devotees of these cults who worship in these shrines are possessed, irrational, sectarian and fanatical.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63119 Nov 20, 2013
Jainism is superior to Buddhism in many facets.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63120 Nov 20, 2013
Off to the Jade Room in the Taj to meet people. Bye.
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#63121 Nov 20, 2013
The liars approval rating drops to 37%
hahaha
liberals!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#63123 Nov 21, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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It certainly is NOT offensive to Jews who are Christians.
Does the concept offend atheists Jews?
Tell me the BIOLOGICAL changes that occur in Jews who embrace Christianity and who reject the LIES of your rabbis.
How do these Jews lose their ancestry because of a change in RELIGIOUS beliefs? Use TRUTH and science to explain it.
Every atheist I have met is is clear about boundaries. They might not buy into the Jewish belief, but (usually) they dont deny the existence of the group internally. You do.

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#63124 Nov 21, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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But you can very easily clear this up for us. You just need to explain Jesus' genealogy in light of the fact that Joseph was not his biological father. Surely this task should be straight forward for such an intelligent and honest person such as yourself.
Its funny how Hughe QUOTES bible to try to support his own ideas (about Jesus in the OT, about homosexuality, about Jews not following the text literally, and most importantly about patrilienali vs matrilineal descent, etc etc ),......

but yet when someone else tries to use it as a source to examine Hughbes own ideas, all of a sudden it is OFF LIMITS because Hughbe is "comfortable with his beliefs"

It dont work that way - that is classic hypocrisy. No free pass.

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#63126 Nov 21, 2013
Brainless fanatic. Yawn.

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#63127 Nov 21, 2013
Hi Voluntarist,

What's the latest conspiracy from your side?

How're your mom and pop stores running?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#63131 Nov 21, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Off to the Jade Room in the Taj to meet people. Bye.
I didnt think people still did blind dates off the internet.

I wish you luck.
HughBe

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#63132 Nov 21, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text> Accepting the above as true for the sake of argument, apply it to Jesus as described in the New Testament. The way to prove a statement is to see if it is true across the board (cross validation). Remember, again for the sake of argument, that you have said that being a Jew is a question of biology. So explain biologically how Jesus is a Jew using your test.
What is important is that the principle has been taught and that at least some will understand the light.

As for Jesus, He is not your concern. Mind your own business. Continue to reject Him.

I tell you this, if your motive was clean I would make the effort to crack that THICK skull of yours and pour light, wisdom and truth into it.

As you know there is nothing pure about you or your motives and so I say, remain as you are in darkness.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63133 Nov 21, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I didnt think people still did blind dates off the internet.

I wish you luck.
Blind date? LOL.

I went there in the morning to discuss a property deal with certain brokers.
HughBe

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#63134 Nov 21, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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You're still tap dancing and avoiding a most inconvenient truth. How do you reconcile Jesus' genealogy if Joseph wasn't his biological father.
There is nothing inconvenient. There is lack of capacity on the part of all who see inconvenience. Trust me on that.

The matter is not complex, to the wise but not so for the otherwise.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#63135 Nov 21, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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But you can very easily clear this up for us. You just need to explain Jesus' genealogy in light of the fact that Joseph was not his biological father. Surely this task should be straight forward for such an intelligent and honest person such as yourself.
No son, get the PRINCIPLE. Do you want to become a Christian?
Eric

Batavia, IL

#63136 Nov 21, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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What is important is that the principle has been taught and that at least some will understand the light.
As for Jesus, He is not your concern. Mind your own business. Continue to reject Him.
I tell you this, if your motive was clean I would make the effort to crack that THICK skull of yours and pour light, wisdom and truth into it.
As you know there is nothing pure about you or your motives and so I say, remain as you are in darkness.
OK, we'll just accept that you can't do it and move on.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63137 Nov 21, 2013
Hugh,

Lay off cults and religions.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63138 Nov 21, 2013
If I turn to Jesus or to any of the prophets, I will get stuck in a morass since they have nothing profound or original to offer.

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#63139 Nov 21, 2013
I can't imagine becoming a slave of scripture that preaches retarded and perverted stuff.

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