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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#50713 Apr 12, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text> Your acceptance of Jesus as the messiah is why I'm not a muslim and Satan will be put away forever even in the Christian tradition. Adam is satan and Jesus is his messiah who you call antichrist. He is the leader of he forces of darkness and I say the same thing to you, there's still time to turn back and change.
I am unable to see why you are so opposed to Jesus. Are you Jew by any chance?

Jesus never said or did anything which is against the Laws and the prophets.

It were his followers, who under the influence of St. Paul said those horrendous things.

Why can't you be like Muslims, while we believe in Jesus, we reject innovations of Paul?

This hatred for Jesus, will lead you no where. Just not to believe in Jesus, you have equated him with Satan?

You should be ashamed of yourself, that is what I call Extremism of the Highest order.
JOEL

India

#50714 Apr 13, 2013
Symbolism , beliefs, mentation, religious ceremonies, observance of festivals, community feelings, veneration of prophets and scripture worship of anthropopathic beings each calling itself God or G-d and the like are aspects of idolatry. Form and formlessness are embodiments of symbolism. The causal mechanism of form and formlessness exceeds both of these and is a projection of the absolute - the unified field of consciousness-energy.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50715 Apr 13, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>"you have magnified your word above all your name" There's a second definition of "idol". An image of a god, used as an object or instrument of worship, or any heathen deity.
SusanB---The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm CONCERNED they should all be driven out and banned. They are NOT Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry

HughBe----I want you to compare the opinion that you promote ABOVE the words of God Almighty, BELOW.

Jeremiah 7:12 "But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the WICKEDNESS of MY people ISRAEL."

Note very well Susan B, "WICKEDNESS of MY people ISRAEL"

God Almighty called them ISRAEL even though they were indulging in WICKEDNESS.

Get it so far?

What is this WICKEDNESS?

Answer is, IDOLATRY. So, God Almighty called them "MY people ISRAEL" even though they were practising IDOLATRY.

So my question is, who are YOU to say otherwise?

How DARE you or anyone else to ESTEEM yourself or himself ABOVE God Almighty, via opinions.

Are those who do such things MIGHTIER than God?

Why do YOU revere or RESPECT your opinion ABOVE God's?

Here is the proof of the IDOLATRY at Shiloh.

Judges 18:30-31 read with UNDERSTANDING.

"And the children of Dan set up the graven image: and Jonathan, the son of Gershom, the son of Manasseh, he and his sons were priests to the tribe of Dan until the day of the captivity of the land.

And they set them up Micah's graven image, which he made, all the time that the house of God was in ShILOH."

JOEL

India

#50716 Apr 13, 2013
Matter without mass and mass sans matter are unimagineable. The two are the obverse and reverse aspects of a single source - energy. LOL.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50717 Apr 13, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The scripture says, "my thoughts are higher than your thoughts and my ways than your ways". You don't understand what an idol is. It is worship of something represented or physical.
Bonus text-- "And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim:"

Note, CHILDREN of ISRAEL and NOTE the issue of IDOLATRY.

God says to the Pharoahs, let MY people/ISRAEL go so that they may serve me.

FREEEEEDOM
JOEL

India

#50718 Apr 13, 2013
The worship of an anthropopathic being or a mangod is idolatry.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50719 Apr 13, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Matter without mass and mass sans matter are unimagineable. The two are the obverse and reverse aspects of a single source - energy. LOL.
greetings dear.

later
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50720 Apr 13, 2013
And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim:

Judges 2:11

They are called ISRAEL even when they practised IDOLATRY.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50721 Apr 13, 2013
JOEL wrote:
The worship of an anthropopathic being or a mangod is idolatry.
Oh, it is not idolatry if the god is FORMLESS. I see.

Since: May 12

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#50722 Apr 13, 2013
JOEL wrote:
The worship of an anthropopathic being or a mangod is idolatry.
Say the idolater that until few months ago was worshipping his supra master.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50723 Apr 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I am unable to see why you are so opposed to Jesus. Are you Jew by any chance?
Jesus never said or did anything which is against the Laws and the prophets.
It were his followers, who under the influence of St. Paul said those horrendous things.
Why can't you be like Muslims, while we believe in Jesus, we reject innovations of Paul?
This hatred for Jesus, will lead you no where. Just not to believe in Jesus, you have equated him with Satan?
You should be ashamed of yourself, that is what I call Extremism of the Highest order.
Jesus is the second or seed of Adam. Gen. 3:15 "I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed" The real Messiah will be the second or seed of Eve. Enmity means hostility or hatred. Jesus has been reincarnated and I know who he is.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50725 Apr 13, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus is the second or seed of Adam. Gen. 3:15 "I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed" The real Messiah will be the second or seed of Eve. Enmity means hostility or hatred. Jesus has been reincarnated and I know who he is.
rabbee: oh come on, you do not even know Their name ain't jesus. so what else have you been taught, that is nothing but lies about Adam?

and if G-D gives, TheHisSon adam, with another mate. then none of you shall have, a grandmother to ever exist again. cause your all just murdeing, your own grandmother of all again. with your not being here in TheTorah, disbelief of physically being here in IT.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50726 Apr 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: oh come on, you do not even know Their name ain't jesus. so what else have you been taught, that is nothing but lies about Adam?
and if G-D gives, TheHisSon adam, with another mate. then none of you shall have, a grandmother to ever exist again. cause your all just murdeing, your own grandmother of all again. with your not being here in TheTorah, disbelief of physically being here in IT.
Do you know the name Adam comes from the Hebrew "adamah" which means out of the ground ? You will turn again to dust. No one but the Holy Spirit has taught me. Adam is Satan.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50727 Apr 13, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Do you know the name Adam comes from the Hebrew "adamah" which means out of the ground ? You will turn again to dust. No one but the Holy Spirit has taught me. Adam is Satan.
rabbee: well first of all, it is not considered as eevreet but aramaeech. and the word dam in aramaeech, means blood. so no it does not come from, the eevreet adammah - which means red dirt. and so no adammah does not mean from out of the ground, in eeveret either.

so adam is a play on words, that means one-blood, or the blood. and calling an unholy spirit, Ruach HaKodesh is great blastphemy. and you are in disagreement, from TheG-D WHO came and taught me personally.

as G-D is still my TEACHER, in spite of my objections that day. i cannot get out, of what what G-D personally commanded i shall do, should the woman chaooah not do. and my only protection against it, is telling the truth of G-D here and now. otherwise i am in the horror story, with all of you and your grandmother of all.

and Ruach HaKodesh, would never tell anyone that we are not here in TheTorah Happening from HaShem G-D. cause this is the only, physical accounting HaShem G-D. there are no other, new testament physical accounting from G-D.

you have been lied to, all your life. get over, it.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#50728 Apr 13, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus is the second or seed of Adam. Gen. 3:15 "I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed" The real Messiah will be the second or seed of Eve. Enmity means hostility or hatred. Jesus has been reincarnated and I know who he is.
There is no connection between Jesus and Gen 3:15, this is false propaganda of Christians.

Seed of Adam and Seed of Eve , these all are myth.

Jesus was created by a special miracle of God, who has power to create whatever He wishes.

To link his creation with obscure verses of Gen is wrong.

Jesus is a human and a true prophet of God and the Messiah , the last prophet from the side of Isaac, which Jews were waiting for.

But majority of Jews rejected Jesus when he appeared, because they confused him "with the prophet of promise, the one from whom all nation shall be blessed".

Jesus was not the prophet of promise and that is what he said, I am not That Prophet, he shall come after me.

Jews are therefore still waiting for their Messiah...and when Anti Christ, shall come into the world, most Jews would recognize him as their Promised Messiah and became his followers.

This is the solution to the mystery, a very simple one in fact.

So your hate and hatred of Jesus is unfounded. He did not make any of the claims which St. Paul and his followers made for him.

Why should you blame Jesus for something which he neither said, nor did?
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50729 Apr 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no connection between Jesus and Gen 3:15, this is false propaganda of Christians.
Seed of Adam and Seed of Eve , these all are myth.
Jesus was created by a special miracle of God, who has power to create whatever He wishes.
To link his creation with obscure verses of Gen is wrong.
Jesus is a human and a true prophet of God and the Messiah , the last prophet from the side of Isaac, which Jews were waiting for.
But majority of Jews rejected Jesus when he appeared, because they confused him "with the prophet of promise, the one from whom all nation shall be blessed".
Jesus was not the prophet of promise and that is what he said, I am not That Prophet, he shall come after me.
Jews are therefore still waiting for their Messiah...and when Anti Christ, shall come into the world, most Jews would recognize him as their Promised Messiah and became his followers.
This is the solution to the mystery, a very simple one in fact.
So your hate and hatred of Jesus is unfounded. He did not make any of the claims which St. Paul and his followers made for him.
Why should you blame Jesus for something which he neither said, nor did?
Jesus is Satans counterfeit messiah who came to finish his work, that is why I hate him. I hate anything evil. The coming "Antichrist" is the messiah and will bring peace and prosperity to the world. Jesus never brought peace and never will. Messiah is called "prince of peace"
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50730 Apr 14, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Susan B, by esteeming your own BS above the words of God YOU are guilty of IDOLATRY.
Put it this way, you have elevated your thoughts ABOVE God's.
You obviously don't know what idolatry is. Any religion other than Judaism and serving the God of Israel is idolatry. My God is the living God. If you're a Christian, my thoughts are definitely superior to any Christian doctrine.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50731 Apr 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I am unable to see why you are so opposed to Jesus. Are you Jew by any chance?
Jesus never said or did anything which is against the Laws and the prophets.
It were his followers, who under the influence of St. Paul said those horrendous things.
Why can't you be like Muslims, while we believe in Jesus, we reject innovations of Paul?
This hatred for Jesus, will lead you no where. Just not to believe in Jesus, you have equated him with Satan?
You should be ashamed of yourself, that is what I call Extremism of the Highest order.
Jesus is Lucifer, Satans counterfeit messiah and came to Finish Satans work. Jesus claimed to be God, he said he and his father are one referring to God. Actually, Satan is a father and son but God is a husband and wife. I am not Christian, Jewish or Muslim, I practice the truth.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50732 Apr 14, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
SusanB---The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm CONCERNED they should all be driven out and banned. They are NOT Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry
HughBe----I want you to compare the opinion that you promote ABOVE the words of God Almighty, BELOW.
Jeremiah 7:12 "But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the WICKEDNESS of MY people ISRAEL."
Note very well Susan B, "WICKEDNESS of MY people ISRAEL"
God Almighty called them ISRAEL even though they were indulging in WICKEDNESS.
Get it so far?
What is this WICKEDNESS?
Answer is, IDOLATRY. So, God Almighty called them "MY people ISRAEL" even though they were practising IDOLATRY.
So my question is, who are YOU to say otherwise?
How DARE you or anyone else to ESTEEM yourself or himself ABOVE God Almighty, via opinions.
Are those who do such things MIGHTIER than God?
Why do YOU revere or RESPECT your opinion ABOVE God's?
Here is the proof of the IDOLATRY at Shiloh.
Judges 18:30-31 read with UNDERSTANDING.
"And the children of Dan set up the graven image: and Jonathan, the son of Gershom, the son of Manasseh, he and his sons were priests to the tribe of Dan until the day of the captivity of the land.
And they set them up Micah's graven image, which he made, all the time that the house of God was in ShILOH."
Shiloh is a city of Ephraim and is associated with the Messiah. Gen. 49:10 "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come..."
JOEL

India

#50733 Apr 14, 2013
My ex-master was only a medium to attaining to the self and beyond to the absolute.

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