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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#50607 Apr 8, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Satan-worshipping passive-gay Zionist, retard and beggar? Wasn't he your PAPA that you are so proud of?
I am so bummed.

not.

of course I would actually have to read those posts to be bummed
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#50608 Apr 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>

Consciousness being a process of thought is not matter.
Thought is mind-waves - fluctuations in the mental field of consciousness.

Mind is an aspect of consciousness.

Matter is a manifestation of energy.

Consciousness and energy form a unified field that is self-existent.

The unified field of consciousness-energy goes through cycles of manifestation and non-manifestation via an innate causal mechanism.

Consciousness has numerous gradations while the concomitant energy adapts itself to the various gradations in the hierarchy.

Each aspect of consciousness has an individualized as well as a larger cosmic aspect.

When the energy component of the unified field enters a state of the non-manifest, pure consciousness remains.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#50609 Apr 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>

Matter is tangible and thoughts are not.
Thoughts are more tangible than matter in their own dimension and can take concrete mental forms.

Potent thoughts can manipulate matter if one knows how to go about the task...

Only the yogis can, through a union of the individualized consciousness with the object (here mind force field), consciously enter the domain of the universal mind field, of which there exist several gradations, and play with the mind forces there and cause them to act on the vital and gross physical forces from that poise.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#50610 Apr 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>

The Lord God is one, not three.
(smiles)

What you refer to as the "Lord God" is merely a megalomaniacal typal being (with anthropopathic traits) of a particular plane that could be the cosmic vital or at the most one of the cosmic mind planes.

The typal beings of any plane can manifest in multiple forms in their own domain as well as on the planes that're inferior to their place of origin just as H2O can assume three aspects (solid, liquid and vapor) in the physical sense.

So, the Christian Trinity of father, son and holy ghost means this - father is the manifest form of the archetypal being of a particular plane, son is the physical embodiment of the father, holy ghost is the innate causal mechanism that causes the father to embody itself as the son. Each aspect supports the other and is causally related to the other and logically speaking the triune aspects are simply seen as the multiple functional modes of a single typal being of a particular plane. There's no mystery regarding the trinity. Biunes, triunes, quadrunes, pentunes and so on are common features of nature and being and constitute the multiple manifestations of a typal state of existence.

Mind, vital and matter with their numerous sub-planes constitute the triple lower planes in the Manifestation.

The superior planes commence from the cosmic overmind which encompasses the 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th planes of the cosmic gradation.

The supramental planes and those planes that exceed the supramental begin from the 13th cosmic plane.

Each plane has a different poise in terms of degree of consciousness and the concomitant energy.

Differences in the Manifestation are due to degree of manifestation and are not of kind since oneness underlies the totality - a unified field of consciousness-energy manifests as a gradation.

Reality can only be expressed in terms of consciousness and energy and their gradations.

Everything else is fiction.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#50611 Apr 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Totally incorrect
We accept converts. We just dont troll for them.
Yes, if some one is "bent on" joining you, how could you refuse him?

But you try to create as many hindrances in their path as you can.!!

A new comer is an unwelcome guest, it is best to be "born into the religion"!

That is your moto and your history.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#50612 Apr 8, 2013
http://www.scribd.com/doc/75606978

The madness that was Iraq War, listen from the Horse' Mouth Now Part-8

Update: The Iraq War Ledger

A Look at the War’s Human, Financial, and Strategic Costs

Matthew Duss and Peter Juul December 2011

Sources: Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction,“January 2010:

Quarterly Report to Congress”(2010), pg. 23, 29, 38, 50-51, 55; Special Inspector General for Iraq

Reconstruction,“Applying Iraq’s Hard Lessons”(2009), pg. 23; Brookings Institution:“Iraq Index”(2010).

Endnotes

1 “Iraq Coalition Military Fatalities By Year,”available at http://icasualties.org/ (last accessed Nov. 22, 2011)

2 Ibid

3 “Iraq Coalition Casualties: U.S. Wounded Total,” available at http://icasualties.org/
Iraq / US Casualties By State. aspx (last accessed Nov. 22, 2011)

4 “Iraqi Deaths, ISF,” available at http://icasualties.org/Iraq/IraqiDeaths.aspx (last
accessed Dec. 1, 2011)

5 “Iraq Body Count,” available at http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

6 Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre,“Iraq: Internally Displaced Population,”

7 UNHCR,“2011 Country Operations Profile: Iraq,” available at http://www.un hcr.
org/pages/49e486426.html,(Last accessed Dec. 1, 2011)

8 Amy Belasco,“The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11” Washington: Congressional Research Service, 2011),
available at http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf

9 Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, The Three Trillion Dollar War,(New York: WW Norton and Company, 2008) p. 59.

10 “Newly formed South Sudan joins Somalia, Pakistan, Iraq, and Afghanistan at top of Maplecroft terrorism ranking,” Maplecroft News, August 3, 2011, available at http://maplecroft.com/about/news/terrorism_in... (Last accessed Dec. 1, 2011)

11 Matt Duss,“Petraeus: Damage Done By Abu Ghraib Is Permanent,” ThinkProgress,
April 1, 2010, available at http://thinkprogress.org/security/2010/04/01

12 White House,“Strengthening Military Families: Meeting America’s Commitment”(2011), available at http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2011/011...
strengthening_our_military_jan uary_2011.pdf

13 Erin Bagalman,“Suicide, PTSD, and Substance Use Among OEF/OIF Veterans Using VA Health Care: Facts and Figures”(Washington: Congressional Research Service, July 18, 2011) available at http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41921.pdf

14 Ibid.

15 Centers for Disease Control,“Suicide: Facts at a Glance,” Summer 2010, http://
www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/Suicide_Da... .

16 Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction,“Quarterly Report to
Congress,” October 2011, http://www.sigir.mil/publications/quarterlyre...
October2011-Figures.html.

17 Nina Serafino, Curt Tarnoff, and Dick K. Nanto,“U.S. Occupation Assistance: Iraq, Germany, and Japan Compared,”(Washington: Congressional Research Service, March 23, 2006), available at http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/
RL33331_20060323.pdf.

18 SIGIR,“Quarterly Report to Congress,” p. 74.

19 Ibid, p. 81.

20 Ibid, p. 85.

21 SIGIR,“Quarterly Report to Congress”(July 2011), http://www.sigir.mil/files/
quarterlyreports/July2011/Repo rt_-_July_2011.pdf, p. 101.

22 SIGIR,“Quarterly Report to Congress”(October 2011), p. 85.

23 UNHCR,“2011 UNHCR Country Operations Profile – Iraq,” available at http://
www.unhcr.org/pages/49e486426.html ; SIGIR “Quarterly Report to Congress”(October 2011), p. 48

24 “Quarterly Report to Congress”(October 2011), p. 67.

25 Ibid, p. 50.
Civil Rites Advocate

East Hartford, CT

#50613 Apr 8, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure
Most veterans don't realize that they are doing the bidding of international bankers all over the world.
Once the armed forces are fully robotic they won't need the US army/navy etc.
They realize that these veterans will be going home to crumbling cities all over the US.
The planned implosion of the US economy won't go over well with armed veterans fighting for U.S. sovereignty against the globalists that want their new world order aka one world government.
This is why they want to disarm veterans and use the robotic forces against them , drones etc.
Robotic forces will easily be sold to the dumb down American public because of the casualties that will come from the next American target of destruction.
Of course nobody will take time to think what will happen when the robots are released back on the american people.
when you say that...what do you mean???
terrorists r planning on bombing another U.S. city with a drone?

i am really WONDERING JUST WHY Obama is insisting on closing down so MANY Aircraft Towers??
Doesn't he WANT the public to be safe?
American Jew

East Hartford, CT

#50614 Apr 8, 2013
speaking of bein Persecuted Jewish women are being persecuted in the town of East Hartford, Connecticut by many unethical public servants,
including the negligent dog warden in that town, along with ALOT of corrupt Police officers!
the dog warden in that town's been stalking jewish women & trespassing on their property for over a year now!!!
guy's a creep!
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50615 Apr 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7560 6978
The madness that was Iraq War, listen from the Horse' Mouth Now Part-8
Update: The Iraq War Ledger
A Look at the War’s Human, Financial, and Strategic Costs
Matthew Duss and Peter Juul December 2011
Sources: Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction,“January 2010:
Quarterly Report to Congress”(2010), pg. 23, 29, 38, 50-51, 55; Special Inspector General for Iraq
Reconstruction,“Applying Iraq’s Hard Lessons”(2009), pg. 23; Brookings Institution:“Iraq Index”(2010).
Endnotes
1 “Iraq Coalition Military Fatalities By Year,”available at http://icasualties.org/ (last accessed Nov. 22, 2011)
2 Ibid
3 “Iraq Coalition Casualties: U.S. Wounded Total,” available at http://icasualties.org/
Iraq / US Casualties By State. aspx (last accessed Nov. 22, 2011)
4 “Iraqi Deaths, ISF,” available at http://icasualties.org/Iraq/IraqiDeaths.aspx (last
accessed Dec. 1, 2011)
5 “Iraq Body Count,” available at http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
6 Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre,“Iraq: Internally Displaced Population,”
7 UNHCR,“2011 Country Operations Profile: Iraq,” available at http://www.un hcr.
org/pages/49e486426.html,(Last accessed Dec. 1, 2011)
8 Amy Belasco,“The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11” Washington: Congressional Research Service, 2011),
available at http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf
9 Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, The Three Trillion Dollar War,(New York: WW Norton and Company, 2008) p. 59.
10 “Newly formed South Sudan joins Somalia, Pakistan, Iraq, and Afghanistan at top of Maplecroft terrorism ranking,” Maplecroft News, August 3, 2011, available at http://maplecroft.com/about/news/terrorism_in... (Last accessed Dec. 1, 2011)
11 Matt Duss,“Petraeus: Damage Done By Abu Ghraib Is Permanent,” ThinkProgress,
April 1, 2010, available at http://thinkprogress.org/security/2010/04/01
12 White House,“Strengthening Military Families: Meeting America’s Commitment”(2011), available at http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2011/011...
strengthening_our_military_jan uary_2011.pdf
13 Erin Bagalman,“Suicide, PTSD, and Substance Use Among OEF/OIF Veterans Using VA Health Care: Facts and Figures”(Washington: Congressional Research Service, July 18, 2011) available at http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41921.pdf
14 Ibid.
15 Centers for Disease Control,“Suicide: Facts at a Glance,” Summer 2010, http://
www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/Suicide_Da... .
16 Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction,“Quarterly Report to
Congress,” October 2011, http://www.sigir.mil/publications/quarterlyre...
October2011-Figures.html.
17 Nina Serafino, Curt Tarnoff, and Dick K. Nanto,“U.S. Occupation Assistance: Iraq, Germany, and Japan Compared,”(Washington: Congressional Research Service, March 23, 2006), available at http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/
RL33331_20060323.pdf.
18 SIGIR,“Quarterly Report to Congress,” p. 74.
19 Ibid, p. 81.
20 Ibid, p. 85.
21 SIGIR,“Quarterly Report to Congress”(July 2011), http://www.sigir.mil/files/
quarterlyreports/July2011/Repo rt_-_July_2011.pdf, p. 101.
22 SIGIR,“Quarterly Report to Congress”(October 2011), p. 85.
23 UNHCR,“2011 UNHCR Country Operations Profile – Iraq,” available at http://
www.unhcr.org/pages/49e486426.html ; SIGIR “Quarterly Report to Congress”(October 2011), p. 48
24 “Quarterly Report to Congress”(October 2011), p. 67.
25 Ibid, p. 50.
rabbee: between the iraq-iran war, and the iraq-us, or syrian civil war. which one was more humane?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#50616 Apr 8, 2013
Voluntarlist wrote:
Sure

Most veterans don't realize that they are doing the bidding of international bankers all over the world.

Once the armed forces are fully robotic they won't need the US army/navy etc.

They realize that these veterans will be going home to crumbling cities all over the US.

The planned implosion of the US economy won't go over well with armed veterans fighting for U.S. sovereignty against the globalists that want their new world order aka one world government.

This is why they want to disarm veterans and use the robotic forces against them , drones etc.

Robotic forces will easily be sold to the dumb down American public because of the casualties that will come from the next American target of destruction.

Of course nobody will take time to think what will happen when the robots are released back on the American people.
Ans.

Thanks for your explaination.

I doubt that in any times in near future all Armed forces would become Robotic. This could be a topic for Science fiction movies, but in reality…we shall have to wait.

You are right in concluding that it is "bankers" who are starting these wars and getting benefits from it.

And as every one knows, most of the Big Bankers are either Jews or controlled by Jews.

So it is easy to say, which people are root cause of all the wars and killings going on in the world.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#50617 Apr 8, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: between the iraq-iran war, and the iraq-us, or syrian civil war. which one was more humane?
The most inhuman was US invasion of Iraq in 2003, which was Justified by all the Civilized nations of the world.

Other wars were never justified by any one.

US invasion of Iraq on false charges is the permanent black mark over US and Europe.

No apology for this illegal invasion is yet tendered. The issue shall continue to haunt them till they provide it to Iraqi people.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#50618 Apr 8, 2013
SB wrote:
01. Nobody knows when the end will be including Jesus. Jesus said to the people he preached to 2000 years ago that some of them would not die till they saw the second coming.

02. The time of the end will be revealed to the Messiah but she will keep it secret and just let it happen. What's going to happen at first is all the Messiahs enemies will be cut off by fire (spontaneous combustion).

03. Sinning against Gods person is the deadliest sin you can commit. The messiah will also have a trial for this and at that time will abolish idolatry in Israel and send them into captivity once again.
Ans.

01. You are right that NO ONE knows when the end of time comes and when Jesus returns to earth.

But did it prevent people from predicting the exact date when Jesus shall return? In past 2000 years more than 500 "Sure Shot" dates have been predicted for Jesus' return by these so called "Biblical Experts".

And despite proven false for these 500 times, there is no shortage of "suckers" to get ready for 501 st date!!

02. You calling Messiah as "she"? Was it typological mistake or you are inventing some new theory?

As per Islamic teachings, Jesus shall come back to earth, mainly to kill the Anti Christ and secondly to solve all these controversies about his personality that has confused Jews and Christians for all these years.

As for Muslims, they have no confusion about Jesus and his status. He was a Human, born without any Human father , a sign of God's creation, a righteous prophet and a Muslim as all prophets before him.

So by coming back on earth, he will not join in the ranks of Jews or Christians, but amongst Muslims!!

03. Sinning against God is the deadliest of Sins and those who introduce non God into God personality are the worst of these sinners.

Those who compromise the Personality of God by introducing such concepts as Trinity are amongst these deadliest sinners.
Voluntarist

United States

#50620 Apr 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
What country, state, town, or neighborhood are you referring to, and why would I be the one to ask?
So your book gave a country/state/town authorization to kill?
Voluntarist

United States

#50621 Apr 9, 2013
Civil Rites Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
when you say that...what do you mean???
terrorists r planning on bombing another U.S. city with a drone?
i am really WONDERING JUST WHY Obama is insisting on closing down so MANY Aircraft Towers??
Doesn't he WANT the public to be safe?
The government has no duty to protect you.

Have you seen some of the actors who were present for the last 2 shootings?

The government will be calling veterans terrorists.
Voluntarist

United States

#50622 Apr 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Thanks for your explaination.
I doubt that in any times in near future all Armed forces would become Robotic. This could be a topic for Science fiction movies, but in reality…we shall have to wait.
You are right in concluding that it is "bankers" who are starting these wars and getting benefits from it.
And as every one knows, most of the Big Bankers are either Jews or controlled by Jews.
So it is easy to say, which people are root cause of all the wars and killings going on in the world.
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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#50623 Apr 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, if some one is "bent on" joining you, how could you refuse him?
But you try to create as many hindrances in their path as you can.!!
A new comer is an unwelcome guest, it is best to be "born into the religion"!
That is your moto and your history.
Incorrect

The only real hindrance that we require is that they study the religion before they join so they understand what we are all about.

Why do you continue to make up sht?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#50624 Apr 9, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
So your book gave a country/state/town authorization to kill?
What book and what country and what authorization?

Four posts over three days you have wasted on this and you have yet to tell me what your beef SPECIFICALLY is.

Sorry I dont waste time with hand wavers.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#50625 Apr 9, 2013
Civil Rites Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
when you say that...what do you mean???
terrorists r planning on bombing another U.S. city with a drone?
i am really WONDERING JUST WHY Obama is insisting on closing down so MANY Aircraft Towers??
Doesn't he WANT the public to be safe?
Dont ask him, ask congress - they are the ones responsible for the sequester - if it was up to Obama it would of been repealed
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50627 Apr 9, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
(smiles)
What you refer to as the "Lord God" is merely a megalomaniacal typal being (with anthropopathic traits) of a particular plane that could be the cosmic vital or at the most one of the cosmic mind planes.
The typal beings of any plane can manifest in multiple forms in their own domain as well as on the planes that're inferior to their place of origin just as H2O can assume three aspects (solid, liquid and vapor) in the physical sense.
So, the Christian Trinity of father, son and holy ghost means this - father is the manifest form of the archetypal being of a particular plane, son is the physical embodiment of the father, holy ghost is the innate causal mechanism that causes the father to embody itself as the son. Each aspect supports the other and is causally related to the other and logically speaking the triune aspects are simply seen as the multiple functional modes of a single typal being of a particular plane. There's no mystery regarding the trinity. Biunes, triunes, quadrunes, pentunes and so on are common features of nature and being and constitute the multiple manifestations of a typal state of existence.
Mind, vital and matter with their numerous sub-planes constitute the triple lower planes in the Manifestation.
The superior planes commence from the cosmic overmind which encompasses the 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th planes of the cosmic gradation.
The supramental planes and those planes that exceed the supramental begin from the 13th cosmic plane.
Each plane has a different poise in terms of degree of consciousness and the concomitant energy.
Differences in the Manifestation are due to degree of manifestation and are not of kind since oneness underlies the totality - a unified field of consciousness-energy manifests as a gradation.
Reality can only be expressed in terms of consciousness and energy and their gradations.
Everything else is fiction.
If you're a Christian, you may think you're so smart but you're really ignorant if you believe jesus was God. Why don't you speak in plain English if you want to be understood. I did not understand a single word you said.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#50628 Apr 9, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>If you're a Christian, you may think you're so smart but you're really ignorant if you believe jesus was God. Why don't you speak in plain English if you want to be understood. I did not understand a single word you said.
He is not a Christian.

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