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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50438 Apr 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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What is your objective with this series?
The majority of Americans already know that the Iraqi war was a fiasco. And the minority that do not believe this will never be convinced.
rabbee: well don't care much, for this world's lying excuses. is this all you can do, when G-D says your going to war? is make up lying excuses, for why it is being done as commanded.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50439 Apr 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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standard fundamentalist argument
Hughbe blames it all on satan
equal amount of data for either of those explanations
rabbee: how can i blame anything, on hasatan? when even hasatan, is doing as commanded by G-D. if anyone is under the influence, of hasatan, baal hamolech, or halooseefer. they only have themselves to blame, for not being actually true to HaShem G-D.

i do not even have the right to kill, the more subtle than any other beast of the fields. since he too, is made and fashioned by G-D. and even if i did, he would just pop back up like a daisy.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#50440 Apr 3, 2013
JOEL wrote:
MIND-MATTER - YOGA VASHISHTA:
The author of The Yoga Vashishta asserts that the world is relative to the mind and must therefore be mental in basal character if the possibility of its being known is to be achieved:
"The subject cannot be aware of the object unless they are related. And there cannot exist any relation between two heterogeneous things. Relation implies identity, for it cannot be possible between two utterly different objects. The cognition of the object by the subject therefore establishes their substantial identity. If they were utterly different from each other, knowledge would not have been possible; the subject would ever remain unaware of the object as a stone of the taste of sugar. The whole world is merely ideal. It does not exist except in thought. It arises and exists in the mind. The whole universe is the self-expansion of the Mind Force. It is a huge dream arisen within the mind. It is Mind alone that has assumed the forms of time, space and movement."
- YOGA VASHISHTA
WOW!
Why do you feel the necessity of triple spamming (at least) three forums simultaneously?

Cant you just pick a single forum?
Voluntarist

United States

#50441 Apr 3, 2013
where is former res he/she claimed that a city can't go bankrupt;

Broke: Stockton Goes
Bankrupt:“Precedent-
Setting Implications”
Mac Slavo
SHTFPlan.com
April 2, 2013
One of the most dangerous cities in
America has just declared bankruptcy,
leaving creditors out hundreds of
millions of dollars.
U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Christopher
Klein said the bankruptcy declaration
was needed to allow the city to
continue to provide basic services.
“It’s apparent to me the city would not
be able to perform its obligations to its
citizens on fundamental public safety
as well as other basic government
services without the ability to have the
muscle of the contract-impairing
power of federal bankruptcy law,”
Klein said.
The city of nearly 300,000 people has
become emblematic of government
excess and the financial calamity that
resulted when the nation’s housing
bubble burst.
Its salaries, benefits and borrowing
were based on anticipated long-term
developer fees and increasing
property tax revenue. But those were
lost in a flurry of foreclosures
beginning in the mid-2000s and a 70
percent decline in the city’s tax base.

Attorneys for the city said the city’s
budget and services had been cut to
the bone.
“There’s nothing to celebrate about
bankruptcy,” said Bob Deis, Stockton’s
city manager.“But it is a vindication of
what we’ve been saying for nine
months.”
The Chapter 9 bankruptcy case
is being closely watched nationally
for potential precedent-setting
implications.
The $900 million that Stockton owes
to the California Public Employees’
Retirement System to cover pension
promises is its biggest debt. So far
Stockton has kept up with pension
payments while it has reneged on
other debts, maintaining that it needs
a strong pension plan to retain its
pared-down workforce.

By 2009 Stockton had accumulated
nearly $1 billion in debt on civic
improvements, money owed to pay
pension contributions, and the most
generous health care benefit in the
state—coverage for life for all retirees
plus a dependent, no matter how long
they had worked for the city.
CNBC
Creditors, who invested tens of
millions of dollars into city bonds to
help cover pension payment shortages
have been left holding the bag. And
now, with the city officially bankrupt,
even those pensions are under threat.
Stockton is the first of many large
cities that will soon declare
bankruptcy, with more troubled local
city councils likely to seek bankruptcy
protection in the near future.

http://www.infowars.com/broke-stockton-goes-b...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#50442 Apr 3, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
where is former res he/she claimed that a city can't go bankrupt;
when did he ever say that?

He is definitely a he.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#50443 Apr 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Why do you feel the necessity of triple spamming (at least) three forums simultaneously?

Cant you just pick a single forum?
Great cosmic insights as the one from the Yoga Vashishta should be spread all over the net so people can see its incomparable profundity and compare it with the shit found in the Tanakh.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#50444 Apr 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your objective with this series?
The majority of Americans already know that the Iraqi war was a fiasco. And the minority that do not believe this will never be convinced.
If majority of Americans KNOW that Iraq war was a fiasco...then why no action has been initiated against GWB the Great and his cronies?

Why they killed a million of Iraqis and get thousands of their own soldiers killed?

Why they wasted trillions of Tax payers money?

Where is the accountability in your system?

Why these people are not behind bars?

The fact is very few Americans realize what damage this GWB and his cronies did to USA.

You are just faking.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#50445 Apr 3, 2013
http://www.scribd.com/doc/75606978

The madness that was Iraq War, listen from the Horse' Mouth Now Part-3

Update: The Iraq War Ledger

A Look at the War’s Human, Financial, and Strategic Costs

Matthew Duss and Peter Juul December 2011

16. Human costs

A. Total deaths: Between 110,663 and 119,380

B. Coalition deaths: 4,803- 1

C. U.S. deaths: 4,484- 2

D. U.S. wounded: 32,200-3

E. U.S. deaths as a percentage of coalition deaths: 93.37 percent

F. Iraqi Security Force, or ISF, deaths: At least 10,125- 4

G. Total coalition and ISF deaths: At least 14,92- 6

H. Iraqi civilian deaths: Between 103,674 and 113,265- 5

I. Non-Iraqi contractor deaths: At least 463

J. Internally displaced persons: 1.24 million- 23

K. Refugees: More than 1.6 million- 7

17. Financial costs

A. Cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom:$806 billion- 8

B. Projected total cost of veterans’ health care and disability:$422

billion to $717 billion- 9

__________

Endnotes

1 “Iraq Coalition Military Fatalities By Year,”available at http://icasualties.org/ (last accessed Nov. 22, 2011)

2 Ibid

3 “Iraq Coalition Casualties: U.S. Wounded Total,” available at http://icasualties.org/
Iraq / US Casualties By State. aspx (last accessed Nov. 22, 2011)

4 “Iraqi Deaths, ISF,” available at http://icasualties.org/Iraq/IraqiDeaths.aspx (last
accessed Dec. 1, 2011)

5 “Iraq Body Count,” available at http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

6 Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre,“Iraq: Internally Displaced Population,”

7 UNHCR,“2011 Country Operations Profile: Iraq,” available at http://www.un hcr.
org/pages/49e486426.html,(Last accessed Dec. 1, 2011)

8 Amy Belasco,“The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11” Washington: Congressional Research Service, 2011),
available at http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf

9 Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, The Three Trillion Dollar War,(New York: WW Norton and Company, 2008) p. 59.

(Contd.)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#50447 Apr 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If majority of Americans KNOW that Iraq war was a fiasco...then why no action has been initiated against GWB the Great and his cronies?
Why they killed a million of Iraqis and get thousands of their own soldiers killed?
Why they wasted trillions of Tax payers money?
Where is the accountability in your system?
Why these people are not behind bars?
The fact is very few Americans realize what damage this GWB and his cronies did to USA.
You are just faking.
Are you blind? Havent you noticed that the Republicans have been voted out of the office TWICE?

WE use democracy - we are not barbaric Saudis who behead at a whim.

Not quite sure what your grievance is.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#50448 Apr 4, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Great cosmic insights as the one from the Yoga Vashishta should be spread all over the net
Like diarrhea

I like that analogy
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#50449 Apr 4, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Like diarrhea

I like that analogy
Jealousy and inferiority personified.

ROFL.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#50450 Apr 4, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Great cosmic insights as the one from the Yoga Vashishta should be spread all over the net so people can see its incomparable profundity and compare it with the shit found in the Tanakh.
But haven't you labeled the people in the forums as brainless, braindead, uncultured, dunces who still haven't said anything of pround or intelligent?

Then it goes without saying that people with that background can't understand the incoparable profundity insights of Yoga Vashishta.

It's like you give pearls to porks. Totally useless.

And this makes you fooler than ever.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#50451 Apr 4, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Jealousy and inferiority personified.
ROFL.
Great - you dont like the analysis so you redirect the attention

pre-school tactic

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#50452 Apr 4, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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But haven't you labeled the people in the forums as brainless, braindead, uncultured, dunces who still haven't said anything of pround or intelligent?
Then it goes without saying that people with that background can't understand the incoparable profundity insights of Yoga Vashishta.
It's like you give pearls to porks. Totally useless.
And this makes you fooler than ever.
lol
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50453 Apr 4, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
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Correct. Messianic Jews do not follow the pagan customs of rome but follow the Torah, as Jesus commanded.
Jesus was Jewish but he led the children of Israel astray. There are no laws governing conduct in the NT, it says because Jesus fulfilled the law, we are not under the law but instead grace. Jesus is prophecied in the OT, not as the messiah but as the modern day idol of Israel.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#50454 Apr 4, 2013
Yes, the posters here are brainless, fanatical, demon-worshippers and genetically abnormal. ROFL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#50455 Apr 4, 2013
The dumb asses should learn...

Since: Nov 09

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#50456 Apr 4, 2013
I am a christian arab from Ramallah Palestine and i think that if we convert everyone to christianity we will end all conflicts in the world.

5 years ago, there were only 20,000 messianic jews today they are 150,000 in Israel. I think that's great because if we are all christian in Palestine and Israel we are going to merge.

We have to get rid of Islam which is the world number one issue today. If you rid the world of Islam, you rid of the major problems in the world.

I salute the american missionaries who are doing a great job in muslim countries. They are very courageous.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50457 Apr 4, 2013
Barbara wrote:
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How often do proselytizers have to "spread their word" to the same people over and over? I've already heard what they have to say and I'm still not interested.
What I find most annoying about Messianic Jews, is not that they practice Jewish customs (after all, Jesus did), but that they call themselves Jews. Anyone who believes in the divinity of Jesus is no longer a Jew by definition.
It says in the NT, "I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie" It's worse for someone who was born and raised in Judaism to convert out than it is for any other person. They should know better. They have a double dose of thinking they're immortal and probably are the most arrogant
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50458 Apr 4, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Of course, in Saudi Arabia -- you can get the death penalty for "preaching" anything except Islam.
Jews don't preach -- we don't go knocking on people's doors and asking them if who they pray to or how they do it.
Most of us find it offensive and impolite.
When the Messiah comes, the world will know it. Is. 54:3 "For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles..."

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