For many, wishful thinking trumps critical thinking. Unfortunate, but true.<quoted text>
I bet it never even crossed his mind to question the fairy tales he was told as a child.
Hook, line and sinker.
Whatever happened to critical thinking?
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And then there is this
Jewish Congregation Applauds U.N. Vote on Palestine
I respect that.
What do they say, the real test of free speech support etc - when you disagree with the movement.
And that's also what I really call liberal.
I like this line:
"Having gained independence ourselves in this way, we are especially conscious of this."
(Now maybe stop bothering the poor little Messianics...:))
I found the comments interesting.
"Is this news?....Jews who are liberals..thats like dog bites man.."
HughBe--- I do NOT follow others. I am an INDEPENDENT thinker.
Former---Let's see if that's true.
HughBe--- My words are TRUTH whether or not you can "see" that.
Former--Were you born into your religion or did you choose it?
HughBe -- It was a matter of choice.
Former--Do either of us sound like someone with a god?
HughBe-- Both of us sound that way. The thing is one knows it while the other YOU don't. Let me not leave you in the dark. It takes great FAITH and I would add STUPIDITY to believe the nonsense that you do. Your very experience should have taught you that beauty, order, laws are ALL MADE.
VIBRATIONS are things that you are used to but even you know so well they cannot produce the laws etc.
HughBe--- Yes it is called STUPIDITY/self.
Former--My god is stupidity? Please expand on that comment.
HughBe--- Memory tells me that you are either an atheist or agnostic. Did you see the self part? If there is no supreme being then you are like a god.
Let me break it down for you.
1. Are you superior to the atoms in your computer?
2.Are you superior to the atoms in the air?
3.Are you superior to the atoms in the earth?
4.Are you superior to the atoms in the sea?
5.Are you superior to the atoms in the sun?
6.Are you superior to the atoms in moon?
7. Then you are superior to ALL of nature and given that there is no Supreme being that makes you god.
spend the time to digest these words.
Former Res is Former Res. Why do you have to invent a God concept to describe what is already there?
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-0 (Introduction):
If we listen to enemies of Islam, the picture they present of our prophet is like one “Ruthless man, sitting on a throne, with sword in his hands, his enemies are brought to him, one by one, he gives them only two choices, Islam or they die”.
Faced with naked sword and death in front of them, his enemies “really had no choice but to become Muslim”. Using his sword and threats, he browbeaten his enemies into submission, and those who showed even the least resistance were put to death in cold blood.
But when we refer to the factual reports of the era, the picture is totally different.
Every one knows that Prophet Mohammad was born in Makkah, though being born in a High Clan of Makkan tribe, and possessing a very likeable personality and a man known for his honesty and truth, he did not possessed any political or monetary power.
When he started his mission, he was in absolute minority of one in Makkah, he had not even a single follower. When he started his mission, he and his immediate followers had to face a lot of hardship at the hands of Makkan people.
There is not a single person of Early or late Makkan period, who did not had to face persecution and extreme torture at the hands of Makkan people.
If he was to use “sword” as a means of conversion, how could he won those early converts in Makkah period? Becoming Muslim in those days was putting your head on the block so to say.
Muslims were persecuted and physically tortured to such a degree that, many had to leave their birthplace and take refuge in the country of Abyssinia, a feature which was strange for a “Clan based society” of Arabia of those days.
Some people say, that prophet did not use force in Makkah period, but once he got some power in Medina, he started using force and torture and threat to get new converts.
People fail to realize that being Muslim in Early Medina period also was no less dangerous, Medina was a very small city and it was engulfed by Non Muslims in every direction. There was danger of outside attacks at any time, and in the battle fields, Muslim armies were always outnumbered by their enemies.
How could prophet then rely on support from that “forced Muslims”, they would ditch him at critical situations and lead to defeat of Muslims.
After saying all this, I conceded that prophet did have “Many Swords” which he used to “Slay his enemies” and “Make them his slaves for ever”!! Let us see, how many swords had he:
1. Sword of Truth (The Most Potent of All).
2. Sword of Reason and Logic.
3. Sword of Patience and Perseverance.
4. Sword of Compassion and Forgiveness.
5. Sword of Open-handedness and Charity.
6. Sword of Appreciation and Acknowledgement.
7. Sword of Equity and Justice.
8. And finally Sword of Steel, which he used very sparingly.
Selecting and using proper sword at proper time, the Prophet was so successful in “Slaying and Capturing his bitterest enemies”.
I have selected a few cases from that period to prove my point and I will present them before our “Friends” on this thread, whose only purpose is to malign the Noble Character of our prophet.
rabbee: well most can't even grasp, that just being an american does not necessarily make you a united states born citizen. more or less, whether you classify a person where they are born or where they presently live. or that if you are born, in north or south america are you an american? as i do not even believe in these silly divisions, of spanish american, african american, chinese american, japanese american, etc... your either american or not american, either your a us citizen or not a us citizen. using racial or other prejudiced titles, tells me you are not a loyal citizen. and that your loyalty, is already divided.
rabbee: well that depends, on if you consider your biology as and ape or not. since i do not suscribe to the religious order, of talking apes or other religious talking critters.
rabbee: well only the name jamaica, might be. but i am sure the name has existed, many times before.
rabbee: well i don't think, that bed wetters can help it.it's just too hard, to keep them from getting pissed off.
rabbee: ok so G-D, is taking it from you. and giving it, to someone else? what is, your problem with that? and G-D, can take even more land away from you for being sore losers.
rabbee: so are you saying that, your colloquial g-d all-h is not as powerfull as TheG-D of all Creation? and not even as powerful, as the colloquial g-d of the jews or christians?
4=d in alphabeth order
''nevolje duhovne i vremenite''
find meaning adversary
Sveti Ante izbavi nas od protivstina!
Smiluj nam se!
Hvala Stvoritelju na stvaranju.
Sinu na otkupljenju.
Majci na rodenju.
Its God that you can have for what $word..
Are you joking?
its stay upon me
no face no hand..i don't see
its stay as GHOST in abet of my fratric
its asked me
what is strongest power on this world..
''love your God with your heart and mind''
in beginning is been nothing..
Why Noa have 3x son?
perfect man for God
my car is autotabanic=zavit=promise as convent=walk without shoes..
no ,petrol not eletricity no gas anymore..
Do you liked that..if not why not!?
As well you allwayes walk ''pricacem=its mean trough small passage where your car can't come.
Where are you going slave girl?
I am going see my grandmother!
O really..yes yes yes
Can I know where is your grandmother house..o you bad big wolf..Are you going eat her?
Your law is not my law..remember that.
reserve yes and no that you can see why is like that..
YOUR LAW HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMANS ..CODE AND FORMULA..YOU BELIEVE IN LIPS OF WHOM?
DID YOU KNOW WHY I SAY NECU=NO
HOW MANY TIME PER DAY?
What a about time as well parallel as well meridian?
Germany say what?
nothing as they are allwayes losers..
Did you liked that I say openly?no
Then don't pool me tell what is in secret...what others don't need know.
Ones when you find and realize who is your enemy..you will see how real words work on your side where others want eliminated you entirely.
I don't wanted see that..no!!!
Liberal, yes - but (as a whole) evidently not as liberal as these particular leaders.
What makes YOU think your words are true. Is it just a feeling you have?
Why are your feelings more valid than my feelings or the feelings of others?
Do ever think you might be arrogant?
If so, is this not a sin of some sort?
So of all the religions in the world you CHOSE one to follow?
How did that tanspire? What was the thought process, if you don't mind sharing this?
"Either of us" referred to me and the writer Voltaire if you recall his quote that i posted.
You say I reguire faith yet you are the one who posesses "belief without proof" which is the very definition of faith. How do you respond to this?
Sure, "beauty, order, laws are all made" - I agree. This is not the issue.
The open question is by what or whom.
You claim to know the answer but in fact you do not. You only have your faith, but the maker is yet unknown and likely unknowable and you cannot prove otherwise.
Also, please note that you continue to call me "stupid" while, though you believe in something I consider frivolous and unfounded, I do not address you in this fashion.
You do not have to rely on your memory to gauge my beliefs or lack therof. My words speak for my thoughts.
I do not claim to be nor know who or what god is.
Unlike you, I can accept the proposition of not having all the answeers to the universe.
I do not feel the need to "make stuff up" in an artificial and childlike attempt to answer these mysteries of the universe.
I don't tend to think of myself as either superior or inferior to objects, the universe or other people.
I try to be one with the world.
I'll leave you with this:
"I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals."
Sir Winston Churchill
British politician (1874 - 1965)
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