Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1508083 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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sonicliar

Satellite Beach, FL

#1054971 Jan 6, 2014
sonicfilter wrote:
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only right wing nutjobs can lie.
though evidently you suck at it.
But you and Obamaliar are really, really good at it! LOL
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1054972 Jan 6, 2014
reality......

Now Republicans Have to Prove They Can Do Better Than Obamacare

On Jan. 1, the moment arrived that conservatives had been dreading: Obamacare took effect. Last year’s Republican freakout and government shutdown was a desperate, doomed, Hail Mary attempt to stave this off. It failed, and now a number of important changes have taken place: Insurance companies can’t deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions or charge them higher rates. There’s a limit to how much they can charge the elderly. Kids can stay on their parents’ insurance until age 26. Millions of people—nobody’s sure yet how many millions—now have health insurance because of Obamacare. This unalterably changes the political landscape, even if a lot of Republicans haven’t yet come to terms with that fact.

One reason so many Republicans fought so bitterly against the health-care law and its implementation was the recognition that once a social benefit or government guarantee is bestowed, it’s almost impossible to revoke. Republicans made two big strategic bets about stopping Obamacare, both of which failed. The first was the decision not to participate in shaping the policy—the choice to oppose and obstruct the bill at every turn in hopes of killing it, rather than steer it in a more conservative direction. As former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum noted at the time (in a column that cost him his job at the American Enterprise Institute and basically got him drummed out of the conservative movement), this turned out to be a disastrous decision—a Republican “Waterloo,” in Frum’s famous phrase.

The second big strategic bet was that Obamacare could still be stopped, even after it was signed into law, by stopping Obama himself from winning a second term. If Obama lost his bid for reelection, this line of thinking went, then his signature policy would come to be seen as a failure that cost him the White House and thus irredeemably tainted. Then it could be repealed or drastically scaled back. That’s why Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said in 2010, after Obamacare was law, that the “single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.” It’s why McConnell made himself the architect of the Republican strategy to achieve this—but that strategy ultimately failed.

Now that the law and its full range of benefits have taken effect, the idea that it can be repealed is folly. But conservatives such as the ones behind this new ad from the YG Network (“YG” stands for “young guns”), a 501c(4), seem not to recognize this new reality.

The ad simply dumps on the law, suggesting that it’s terrible and unfair—but despite the YG Network’s claim to support “conservative center-right policies,” doesn’t offer any alternatives. The fact is that even if Republicans win the White House and both chambers of Congress in 2016, they won’t dare strip benefits from what, by that point, will probably be upward of 10 million people. The best they can hope for is to be able to change the law in a way that’s more amenable to conservative ideals, as Frum was counseling them to do four years ago. What changed on Jan. 1 is that the “repeal” crowd became obsolete. The new coin of the realm for conservatives is coming up with a viable-seeming alternative to Obamacare that allows for the reality that Republicans are never going to strip millions of people of their health insurance. That’s what matters now.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-...

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1054974 Jan 6, 2014
Emeem wrote:
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You mean the Bill Clinton that left office leaving Bush with a budget surplus that Bush squandered on a senseless unprovoked war that sent us into a depression that Obama is leading us out of?
That Bill Clinton?
So, the Arab Islamists attacking the United States and killing 3000 Americans wasn't provoking a war?
You're just pretending to be this stupid, right?

It's 9/12. You're the president. What do you do?
Do you:
1) Surrender to the Islamist terrorists? Or;
2) Do the Bill Clinton thing and lob a few cruise missiles into their general direction? Or;
3) Do the exact same thing in the exact same place against the exact same enemy as the Soviets, and somehow you would expect something different to happen? Or;
4) You do something different that gives the greatest chance of kicking the shit out of the Arab Islamist terrorists that attacked the United States.

If your answer is 4) do something different to give us a better chance of kicking the shit out of the Arab terrorists, what would you do?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1054976 Jan 6, 2014
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
excuse-meister.
GOP is GOP. you'll need to start a new party to get out from under the big tent.
Or get rid of the Democrats running the GOP.
You ran away from the point. The combination of Democrats and Democrat RINOs running Congress generates less approval than people who believe in Bigfoot.
Now, why do you think more Americans believe in Bigfoot than approve of the Demcorats and Democrat RINOs running Congress?
TSM

United States

#1054977 Jan 6, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
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The amount of sweat dripping off one's brow doesn't reflect their abilities, their productivity, or their worth to the employer. Only complacent, progressive drones would even suggest such a thing.
We all have opportunity, but only the inspired use it to it's utmost. Keeping that in mind, you are again, deceptively, parroting "opportunity in-equality" as a reason for "outcome in-equality". Go to Cuba. They have equality on parade, for all to see.
Agree, Castro is a Hero to Liberals/Obama!!
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1054978 Jan 6, 2014
“We’ve got choices about war and peace,” Obama said. “I ended the war in Iraq, as I promised. We are transitioning out of Afghanistan. We have gone after the terrorists who actually attacked us 9/11 and decimated al Qaeda.”
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1054979 Jan 6, 2014
Emeem wrote:
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I'd ask for volunteers from teabaggers like yourself that beat their patriotic chests every day to go over to whatever Islamic country they wanted to and have at it.
After they wiped your sorry asses out I would sign a truce and promise never to send Americans troops to interfere in their countries politics again.
teabaggers like you a nd your culture are one of the reasons that radical Islam hates America...

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1054980 Jan 6, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no most of us conservatives are complaining that the far radical right has taken over the GOP and they are longer conservatives..
this is the group that is killing the GOP.
Would that be the group lying about there being only 11 million illegal aliens here when fifteen years ago the official government estimate was 12 million, and most people thought that number was too low then?
Would that be the group that continues to endorse insane government spending, increasing the deficit and debt, and keeping us on the path to certain collapse of the government?
Would that be the group that gives the president the unconstitutional authority to detain anyone at his whim indefinitely without charges?
Would that be the group that continually allows the president to write and rewrite laws to suit the political whim?
Would that be the group that votes to give the DHS the money to buy 2,700 armored combat vehicles, 7,000 machine guns, and enough ammunition for both sides to fight World War I for twenty years?
Would that be the group that continually funds the unconstitutional spying on Americans?
... and on, and on, and on....

What you call "radical right" is jsut those who believe in the Constitution. The real radicals are those in government who are in open rebelliion against the Constitution and attempting to end the existence of the Constitutional republic.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1054981 Jan 6, 2014
RealDave wrote:
There equal pay for equal work to stop discrimination.
define "equal work"....
LOS Bro

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#1054982 Jan 6, 2014
WoW
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1054983 Jan 6, 2014
Obama said Oct. 23, 2012 at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Fla., “al Qaeda’s core leadership has been decimated.” He repeated the same line at a campaign event in Delray Beach, Fla. that day. -
dem

United States

#1054984 Jan 6, 2014
Look at tea bag terrorist trying to disown his namesake.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1054985 Jan 6, 2014
PDUPONT wrote:
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Wrong stupid! That's exactly how countries prosper. That's how infrastructure is built and maintained. It's how state universities, colleges and schools are built and maintained. That's why we have the vitally important interstate highway system.
The US will never go broke and run out of money. Because we live in a fiat currency system, where the United States government can create an infinite number of dollars at no cost to meet its obligations. A Treasury bill is a promise that the government will give you US dollars–something that the United States government can produce infinitely and at no cost.
You were a history teacher? Really?
printing fiat money is equivalent to confiscation of private property...

printing fiat money has a steep cost...
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#1054986 Jan 6, 2014
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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lol! You're so into your leaders' skivvies aren't you son?
git that shiteatin' grin off yer face...
lol! Unlike you son, I didn't bring up YOUR leaders' clothing!

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1054987 Jan 6, 2014
PDUPONT wrote:
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Your reasoning is convoluted and essentially false Carol. I attend church on a regular basis and sit on my church's board so I am a person of faith. In regards to the operation of government I'm a secular progressive. In no way do secular progressives want to silence your views, that's just paranoia on your part. To quote Founding Father and progressive secularist Thomas Jefferson;
“It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
We don't care what you believe and will defend your rights to worship or not worship as you see fit. What we do object to and will fight at every occasion is any attempt to include religious bias in law and the imposition of religious beliefs on others. Opposition to marriage equality and the attempts by some ultra religious like the owners of Hobby Lobby imposing their opposition to birth control on their employees are examples of this.
In the case of Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602 (1971), The Court established the Lemon rule in regards to laws that would seem to comingle government and religion;
1. The government's action must have a secular legislative purpose; (Purpose Prong)
2. The government's action must not have the primary effect of either advancing or inhibiting religion; (Effect Prong)
3. The government's action must not result in an "excessive government entanglement" with religion.(Entanglement Prong)
Government/religious entanglement has had disastrous results in history. Prior to the French Revolution the government and the Roman Catholic Church were joined at the hip with religion defending the divine right of the crown to rule as it saw fit. When the French revolted, due to massive inequality, the Church was seen as a co-oppressor and it led to decades of persecution. It was the same way with the Russian Revolution.
According to Merriam-Webster, there are two definitions of secularism.
-the belief that religion should not play a role in government, education, or other public parts of society.
-indifference to or rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations.

Most traditional conservatives also believe religion should not play a role in government, education or other public parts of society. It never has and never will. However, morality is not a partisan issue. Secularists seem to think it is.

All Americans believe everyone has a right to express their religious beliefs without being persecuted or demonized just as secularists have the right to reject or be indifferent to any religion. But they have taken freedom of religion and twisted into intolerance of religion and any expression thereof to the point of denying it to others and silencing it using government as a tool to define a moral standard that does not represent all Americans.

Therefore, it is secularist progressives who believe freedom FROM religion should not only play a role but an active role in government, education and other public parts of society by rejecting and denying traditional values which, in many cases, is religious in origin as even being valid and passing laws that dismiss them in the guise of anti-freedom of religion and taking action against those who simply exercise the freedom to express their beliefs.

It is un-American at its very core.

Progressive ideas in government and society aren't necessarily a bad thing. But secularism added to progressivism in this present political atmosphere has become a destructive ideology and its goal is to destroy traditional values and demonize religion as the cause.

Is this what you stand for?
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#1054988 Jan 6, 2014
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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one of God's gifts to the world is your having a short lifespan.
Is that a threat son? Or a promise?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1054989 Jan 6, 2014
DBWriter wrote:
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Or get rid of the Democrats running the GOP.
You ran away from the point. The combination of Democrats and Democrat RINOs running Congress generates less approval than people who believe in Bigfoot.
Now, why do you think more Americans believe in Bigfoot than approve of the Demcorats and Democrat RINOs running Congress?
17% for Bigfoot.

53% combined.

you're no analogy-meister.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#1054990 Jan 6, 2014
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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Warming the heart of a cold-blooded lizard like you is unhealthy.
We'll keep it up:)
lol! What's the matter son?

Jealous you can't warm yours?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1054991 Jan 6, 2014
PDUPONT wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong stupid! That's exactly how countries prosper. That's how infrastructure is built and maintained. It's how state universities, colleges and schools are built and maintained. That's why we have the vitally important interstate highway system.
The US will never go broke and run out of money. Because we live in a fiat currency system, where the United States government can create an infinite number of dollars at no cost to meet its obligations. A Treasury bill is a promise that the government will give you US dollars–something that the United States government can produce infinitely and at no cost.
You were a history teacher? Really?
You mean like money grows on trees?

This is the most insane, removed from reality, complete bullshit post you've ever posted.

But, let's talk about "fiat money". You obviously don't realize that the value of the "fiat money" is dependent on what everyone else says the money is worth, and not what the printer of the worthless bills says it's worth, right?
If Saudi Arabia says the dollar is worth nothing, and Obama says it's worth everything, how much oil do you think one of Obama's dollars will buy? How much food do you think it will buy? The truth is, if everyone else says the dollar is worthless, it's worthless regardless of what Obama says it's worth.
You really need a reality check.

And, another thing. The entire world knows Obama and this administration are pathological liars. Who in the world will belileve any promise they make, like "we'll pay you back"? You can bet anyone loaning the United States any money today is demanding payment in gold. Which brings us to another question:
Do you think there's any gold left in the Federal Reserve or Fort Knox? Or, has all of it already been stolen by this government?
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1054992 Jan 6, 2014
RealDave wrote:
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Denmark is considered my many to be the happiest country in the world ranking one in some polls & typically in the top ten.
"happy" to ride bicycles because they can't afford cars....

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