Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
forks_make_us_fa t

Conway, AR

#839010 Jan 14, 2013
Fiscal cliff?

Poor 47%'ers....

Need help with college costs?

Help us Fed Gov....enter PELL GRANTS!

wait..

$700k in grants went to students who NEVER completed ANY coursework...
at just ONE college!

http://educationgrant.org/department-of-educa...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#839011 Jan 14, 2013
AmericanMan wrote:
<quoted text>Operation Wide Receiver was the first gun walking program by the ATF that went bad and guns were lost. So shouldn't you be focused on that as much as F&F? Or is it you are a hypocritical bastard who looks over anything during the Bush years but blames Obama when the exact same thing happens?
wrong tree.

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#839012 Jan 14, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
For the ignorant dupes here, you being the leading candidate, Bush never signed an executive order giving instructions outside the Executive Branch of government. It never happened.
If you disagree, reference the executive order and provide the text within that is the instructions to entities or elements outside the Executive Branch of government.
... got a problem with that, don't you? That's because it never happened.
What you clowns are trying to do is institute a fascist dictatorship where the furher Obama can write his own laws to suit his whim.
Ain't gonna happen.
Now, how about you giving us the text of those executive orders that you mentioned, and tell us how they violated existing laws and/or the Constitution,...
thus giving Obama the ability to write executive orders violating existing laws and the Constitution.
No American citizen is obligated to obey any command/instruction/requiremen t/restriction from the government that isn't issued in the form of a law passed in accordance with the Constitution. The president is prohibited by the Constitution from issuing edicts to the population. That's the type of tyranical government we fought a war to free ourselves from. You'll have to fight and win a war to take that away from the American people. They've become used to the idea of not being anyone's subjects. They like limited government, and don't like the fascist dictatorship you Democrats have in mind for them.
When Obama signs an executive order writing his own whim into law, it won't be worth the paper it is written on, because....
No American citizen is obligated to obey any command/instruction/requiremen t/restriction from the government that isn't issued in the form of a law passed in accordance with the Constitution.
You first have to eliminate the Constitution and install a fascist dictatorship to make that happen.
I never brought up executive orders by GW but I will bring up a prime example by HW

You want to know what the height of ignorance is??????

Being in the oil industry (at least what ypou claimed) and being too stupid top know that there was an executive order banning drilling off our East & West coasts.

Your buddy George W Bush upheld this ban for over 7 years of his Presidency.

Gee was that beyond the Executive Branch.??? Ummmm let me think........

What do you have to say about that, Mr Pretend Oilman?

Now, you want to talk about stem cell research?????
lol

Winter Park, FL

#839013 Jan 14, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Gallup: Dissatisfaction With Current Gun Laws Rises Sharply
In a significant shift in the public's attitudes from one year ago, 38 percent of Americans expressed dissatisfaction with the country's current gun laws, according to findings from Gallup released Monday.
Last year, Gallup's polling showed only 25 percent of the public were dissatisfied. Still, more Americans — 43 percent — are satisfied with current U.S. gun laws, although that's down from the 50 percent who expressed satisfaction a year ago.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/g...
So, just who did they poll? Soccer moms?

Ever hear of propaganda?

Psychological & societal manipulation especially thru the msm?

Sheep believe & willingly follow, being totally ignorant.
baaa- baaa- baaa

All those good citizens rushing out & buying guns and ammo tell me the poll is BS.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#839014 Jan 14, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
I do believe you're beginning to understand the question. The answer requires a source of money for an answer. You came close to acknowledging that in your post when you said the Treasure gets its money from somewhere. To answer the question, you have to identify the SOURCE OF MONEY the Treasure will receive money from.
And, that fundamental change you intend to bring....
Would that be money growing on trees that the Treasury can use as a source of money?
And, would that be a fascist dictatorship where the furher Obama can write his own laws to suit his ignorant whim?
Not a chance of that happening without killing a few million people, dufus. You really are disconnected from just who is living here in America, aren't you?
You do know that if you continue to push your fascist government onto the American population, you will start a civil war, don't you? You may get your ignorant race war that you think you want.
You do know that when the smoke clears the winners will most certainly hang the losers, don't you?
If it's your neck the noose is being slung around, don't whine. You asked for it, idiot. Take it like a man.
You idiots don't know a paradise when you're living right in the middle of it.
Fundamental change to a system where everyone living in it now can choose their own living standard.... that's a hoot.
See you at the hanging tree, dufus.
Listen to the 8%er talk tough.

You said the same before the election. What happened to your landslide?? ROFLMAO

If there's so many like you, why did your side lose so badly?? HAHA

In the House, the Senate, and President!!

The one question nobody on earth has been able to answer is this:

Why was the Tea Parrty so powerless they couldn't get Santorum on the ticket??

You do realize the Republiclown leaders used nitwits like you and Carol, with your TP loyalties, don't you??

Then the leadership ignored the TP, with Boehner stripping remaining TP House members of their committee leadership roles.

The mainstream Republiclowns basically rolled you nitwits!!

They see the TP as yesterday's news, and folks like you useful idiots!!

We won't hang you, though. We'll merely deport you back home to Mother Russia.

Your marxist communism will be more appreciated there.
RUSH10ME

Hayes, VA

#839015 Jan 14, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
Are saying that Mitt Romney would have abolished the use of drones?
The American people are in an outrage about gun violence, the incident in CT brought it home for many more; they couldn't just poopoo it away as black gang bangers in Chicago stuff.
No, this was a wealthy white community and the murderer one of their own. The President has to do something; as would any President. Including Mitt Romney; George Bush did it and so did Bill Clinton.
You're an idiot.
You are intitled to your opinion but not your own facts , obama has sold more guns than any other president ever , thats his legacy he put more people on foodstamps and sold the most guns.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#839016 Jan 14, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Then you'll have to explain why they went after the Social Democratic party son. Hitler plan and appeal was economic. This is how he motivated the conservatives and the population base.
Jews were just one of the ethnicity's that that he went after. You say liberals are a "collective?" Clearly Hitler did the same, making up what he felt the opposition was and assigning it to them.
No different than you right wing extremists.
Adolph went after the Jews, because they were the people with the money. His Mother was a Jew. He went after the Catholics because they were his most vociferous opposition.
But during that time, syphilis was rotting his brain,'Ol Eva had infected him. The goose in his goosestep was gone.
It's just as Barack Hussein Obama, Terrible Timmy and the Demorats, but these guys are more insidious, they say in the immortal words of Fort Worthless Jim Wright D-TX, that they are only there to 'hep yooou'..... with other people's money.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#839018 Jan 14, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
That's just one instance in Fast & Furious.
The sellers were put up to it by the gov in that specific instance for a specific end.
Criminals, cartels and especially gangs do not purchase legally. Ever hear of illegal under the radar arms dealers?(Not stores).
One scripted deal does not make for the criminal element buying legally.
that had nothing to do with F&F.

so the point was....plenty of guns make their way to Mexico 'legally'. with no help from anyone but the general public.
Lincoln

United States

#839019 Jan 14, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
Are saying that Mitt Romney would have abolished the use of drones?
The American people are in an outrage about gun violence, the incident in CT brought it home for many more; they couldn't just poopoo it away as black gang bangers in Chicago stuff.
No, this was a wealthy white community and the murderer one of their own. The President has to do something; as would any President. Including Mitt Romney; George Bush did it and so did Bill Clinton.
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More on Republican follies:
Rep. Phil Gingrey’s attempts to explain
Todd Akin’s rape remarks
are leaving many Republicans beyond frustrated that a few in their party can’t help but insert rape into the already contentious abortion debate.

“This is actually pretty simple. If you’re about to talk about rape as anything other than a brutal and horrible crime, stop,” said Republican strategist Kevin Madden, who was a senior adviser in Mitt Romney’s campaign.

On Thursday,

the Georgia Republican didn’t heed that advice, telling a local Chamber of Commerce breakfast that Akin was “partially right”

when he said last year that a woman can stop herself from getting pregnant.
“We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating,‘Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don’t be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate,’” Gingrey said.
lol

Winter Park, FL

#839020 Jan 14, 2013
Former Adviser: Obama as 'Ruthless and Indifferent to Rule of Law' as Bush

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/01/...
Americans 'unaware of the scale of the drone program ... and the destruction it has caused in their name'

A former security adviser for Barack Obama now says the Pentagon's targeted drone program is counter-productive, is "encouraging a new arms race," and has killed far more civilians than has been acknowledged.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#839022 Jan 14, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
So, just who did they poll? Soccer moms?
Ever hear of propaganda?
Psychological & societal manipulation especially thru the msm?
Sheep believe & willingly follow, being totally ignorant.
baaa- baaa- baaa
All those good citizens rushing out & buying guns and ammo tell me the poll is BS.
yawn

is that you Mr. Morris? is FOX ever going to let you come back and look more the fool?

you'd think you wingnuts would've learned.

Americans Strongly Support Tougher Requirements for Gun Owners

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...
lol

Winter Park, FL

#839023 Jan 14, 2013
ObamaCare's Health-Insurance Sticker Shock
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788...

Although President Obama repeatedly claimed that health-insurance premiums for a family would be $2,500 lower by the end of his first term, they are actually about $3,000 higher—a spread of about $5,500 per family.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#839024 Jan 14, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of us do not have that option and must fight to save the American way of life.
Really??

Let's hear your definition of 'the American way of life'??

Based on your posts, you harbor hatred for all other Americans, teachers, cops, firemen, union members (which all of the aforementioned are), bankers, WalMart workers, blacks, hispanics, women, asians, etc., etc., etc.

So your definition is for all others in America to suffer, while you keep colecting your Social Security and Medicare??

Not prudent, son. Not gonna happen, son.

Good news is you'll be dead soon.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#839025 Jan 14, 2013
lol wrote:
Former Adviser: Obama as 'Ruthless and Indifferent to Rule of Law' as Bush
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/01/...
Americans 'unaware of the scale of the drone program ... and the destruction it has caused in their name'
A former security adviser for Barack Obama now says the Pentagon's targeted drone program is counter-productive, is "encouraging a new arms race," and has killed far more civilians than has been acknowledged.
oh cool. pointing out right wing hypocrisy.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#839026 Jan 14, 2013
RUSH10ME wrote:
<quoted text>You are intitled to your opinion but not your own facts , obama has sold more guns than any other president ever , thats his legacy he put more people on foodstamps and sold the most guns.
Wrong.

Bush's complete destruction of the American economy forced Americans onto food stamps, as Bush and Rmoney exported American jobs by the hundreds of thousands.

That was the deal Bush made with China;

You loan us money for the wars, we'll export our fsactory jobs to you.

In this, Bush laid the foundations for the collapse, which happened on his watch!!

DEal with it, ya freakin' loser!!

And you wonder why most Americans still hold Bush responsible for th eDepression he created.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#839027 Jan 14, 2013
NRA Reaps Profits From the Internet Ammo Sales It Made Possible

Today the NRA receives millions of dollars from online sales of ammunition, high-capacity ammunition magazines, and other accessories through the Round-Up Program, created by top NRA benefactor Larry Potterfield. Potterfield is founder and head of MidwayUSA, which claims to stock "[j]ust about everything for shooting, reloading, gunsmithing and hunting," including ammunition and high-capacity ammunition magazines. The Round-Up Program encourages buyers to "round-up" their purchase to the nearest dollar with the difference going to the NRA.

Potterfield credits McClure-Volkmer with helping make his financial fortune possible, stating on the company's website:

By 1987, we were doing about $5 million in business, selling mostly to dealers. The product lines were bulk components and cartridge boxes. The Volkmer-McClure [sic] law was enacted in October 1987, which removed the restriction of shipping brass and bullets to FFL holders only. Midway immediately began selling directly to consumers, in addition to selling to dealers.

The NRA's lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) has received nearly $9.3 million dollars from the Round-Up Program. On its website, MidwayUSA states that Round-Up Program contributions from the company total nearly $7.2 million since 1992. Total Round-Up contributions (MidwayUSA's and those of other companies participating in the Round-Up Program) to the NRA are nearly $9.3 million.(One mass shooter who took part in the NRA's Round-Up Program through MidwayUSA was concealed carry permit holder George Sodini, who in August 2009 opened fire at an LA Fitness Center in Collier, Pennsylvania, killing three women and wounding nine others before turning the gun on himself and taking his own life.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#839029 Jan 14, 2013
Colorado is currently 1 of only 13 states that utilizes a duplicative state background check for the transfer of firearms. The CBI InstaCheck, which can in no way quantify the results of their system, unnecessarily denies the right to purchase a firearm to thousands of Colorado citizens. A study performed by the U.S. Department of Justice showed that Colorado had the highest percentage of reversals on appeal, nationwide, for the right to transfer a firearm at 58.8% from 2000 to 2009 and the highest in 2009 with 75.8%. This means that a Colorado resident could be denied the right to purchase a firearm due to incomplete information or an issue as trivial as having forgotten to pay a speeding ticket.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legis...

so what could keep someone from voting in some states should not keep someone from buying a gun?
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#839030 Jan 14, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Iraq and Afghanistan are two completely different situations.
Iraq has strategic importance and is/was winnable.
Afghanistan has no strategic importance and is not winnable.
Yes. iraq was invaded for no reason at all. Afghanistan was invaded for a specific reason.

If there was any military effort I applaud bushie on, it was Afghanistan.

Iraq is only of strategic importance if the US can maintain a presence there. But that's still no reason for the invasion.
forks_make_us_fa t

Conway, AR

#839031 Jan 14, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
that had nothing to do with F&F.
so the point was....plenty of guns make their way to Mexico 'legally'. with no help from anyone but the general public.
Have obammie put up a fence...like lily down there in florida!
Save us...

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#839032 Jan 14, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
I never brought up executive orders by GW but I will bring up a prime example by HW
You want to know what the height of ignorance is??????
Being in the oil industry (at least what ypou claimed) and being too stupid top know that there was an executive order banning drilling off our East & West coasts.
Your buddy George W Bush upheld this ban for over 7 years of his Presidency.
Gee was that beyond the Executive Branch.??? Ummmm let me think........
What do you have to say about that, Mr Pretend Oilman?
Now, you want to talk about stem cell research?????
Good thing about Dweeb is that he's such an outrageios liar that everyone sees right through his stream of bullshit.

I posted several Executive Orders from BushII that had nothing to do with the Executive Branch yesterday, but he ran away rather than respond.

That's been his style.

He ignores well-documented proof of his ignorance, and continues to come back with the same, disproven charges.

In that, he's much like Carol or Nobraina.

They've been running the same batch of lies for over 4 years on this thread.

they get beat down, they wait a week or two and start again, with the same stupidity they've been busted for.

They can't win elections, so they must lie!!

Dweeb is a virtual newcomer.

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