Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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At the CNN debate this October in Las Vegas, Gingrich took a swipe at Romney over the former Massachusetts governor’s healthcare plan that requires citizens in the Bay State to buy health insurance. Romney shot back:“Newt, we got the idea of individual mandate from you.”

Gingrich responded:“You did not get that from me. You got that from the Heritage Foundation.”

They are both correct on this revealing point. The Heritage Foundation, the influential conservative think tank, first developed the idea of an individual mandate for healthcare in the late 1980s. That is how deeply this idea is tied to conservative thinkers.

Romney used the Heritage policy in developing his Massachusetts health care law. That reform contained the dreaded individual mandate.

And Gingrich supported the federal mandate as an alternative to Hillary Clinton’s health care reform package when he was Speaker in the 1990s.

If Republican voters heard Gingrich and Romney speak honestly about health care reform — and why they came to appreciate and support the good of the individual mandate — my bet is that most GOP and independent voters would be more impressed than they are with the blatant lies now being told on the campaign trail.

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Can you find any good news relating to Obamacare? I mean, about it not costing businesses and the middle class paying for it?
Carol you just keep right on with the right wing distortions that necessarily have to be presented by the outfit that thought the whole deal up in the first place but who would have something completely different to say if the healthcare law had been implemented by a Republican.

but it is good for a giggle or 2.
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Obamacare will affect small businesses in at least four ways.
1. Higher Health Care Costs. The endless regulations, mandates, fees and taxes will put upward pressure on premium prices where 88% of workers and dependents at small businesses purchase health insurance.
2. Ineffective Small Business Tax Credit. Obamacare does not address the uncertainties small businesses face in deciding whether to offer health insurance coverage to its workers.
3. Higher Regulation Compliance Costs. Many small companies will have to hire additional workers and incur external accounting expenses to handle the enhanced compliance regulations on health insurance plans and stricter tax compliance regulations.
4. Medicare Taxes on “Flow-Through” and Investment Income. Obamacare will establish a new Medicare non-payroll tax reaching a significant share of small businesses.
This tax increase is not indexed to inflation and will push more small business owners into a higher tax group. It will also lead to greater deterrence on investment and passive income which will suppress economic growth.
Obamacare fails to appropriately address the concerns of small and medium-size businesses. It will force many companies to react to new cost burdens. The intended consequences of this poorly constructed bill are harmful enough, but the many unintended consequences are even worse.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010...
It's after the fact, but we should at least educate ourselves about what we face in the future.
Same points were made when Medicare was enacted. You Repubs hate that universal health care plan for seniors as well. But I have NEVER known of a Repub 65 or older that pays their medical bills out of their own pocket in protest of the Socialist Plan. Hypocrites one and all.
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One of the biggest stories of the 2012 presidential election was how thoroughly convinced the wingnuts were of their impending victory. It's not just fun mocking their hilariously wrong predictions. It's also fun looking at the information they used to so fully ill-inform themselves.
I had more faith in the intelligence of the American public than I should have. I figured that there was absolutely no way the majority of the voters would ignore the fact that Lord Obama is second only to Jimmy Carter in his handling of the economy. The numbers don't lie-- look at the unemployment rate, the debt, on and on and on.

I thought the majority wouldn't ignore his embarassing behavior with foreign affairs, standing up the Israeli prime minister, the Benghazi debacle.

I thought people would look at his infatuation with movie stars, rap singers, etc. partying at the White House, Moochelle flying 60 of her closest friends on our dime to Spain for a week of frolick in the sand and be a bit annoyed.

But I was wrong. The majority, like you, are in it for the free stuff. Women were convinced to vote for him so they could get free (paid for by an Evil Rich Guy) birth control pills and save $9/month. Families everywhere were bought with free (paid for by an Evil Rich Guy) school breakfasts, lunches and dinners. Let the party continue.

It's really rather pathetic. What will it take to persuade you parasites that WORKING IS GOOD. I guess when the last Evil Rich Guy is tapped out, the well runs dry, and the Free Stuff isn't available, you'll burn tires in the street and whine like they do in Greece, Spain and elsewhere.

Whatever happens, you own it. In four more years the unemployment rate is still around 10% and the debt is in the tens of trillions, YOU VOTED FOR IT.

Congratulations.
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Support For Repealing Obamacare Plunges To An All-Time Low

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/11/13/11...
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carol wrote:
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Can you find any good news relating to Obamacare? I mean, about it not costing businesses and the middle class paying for it?
You stupid Repubs NEVER consider the cost of 30 million Americans without health insurance to the rest of America.
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Five Ways Obamacare Crushes the Middle Class
1. More taxes. Obamacare imposes $502 billion of new or increased taxes and fees. Several of the taxes will be passed on to middle-income families through higher prices.
The Medicare payroll tax from 2.9 percent to 3.8 percent for individuals earning above $200,000 isn't indexed to inflation and will impact more middle-class families each year. A Medicare trustee report states,“By the end of the long-range projection period, an estimated 80 percent of workers would pay the higher tax rate.”
2. Loss of existing coverage. As many as 35 million people could lose their existing coverage because of the financial incentives for employers to drop coverage for their employees.
3. Higher premiums. For a family of four, premiums on even the lower priced ‘silver’ option could still cost more than $15,000 annually on the exchanges. A family’s income might exclude them from subsidies but not be high enough to pay $15,000 for Obamacare’s government-approved insurance. A family of four earning $90,000 annually could find themselves spending as much as 25 percent of the family’s take home pay for an average policy.
4. Rising health care costs. As costs rise, middle-class families including those receiving a subsidy will be left paying more. Charles Blahous, a Medicare trustee, concludes “this limitation would likely cause the federal subsidies to grow less rapidly over the long term than the cost of health care and thus require low-income individuals in the exchanges to shoulder a steadily increasing percentage of their health costs.”
5. More government control of health care. Obamacare transfers massive authority to the government in delivering care and coverage. This huge expansion of government’s role in health means that, by 2020, more than half of all Americans will be dependent on the federal government for health care and government bureaucrats will be in charge of deciding what you can and cannot buy.
http://blog.heritage.org/2012/05/25/top-five-...
(Guess I'm in educating mode today.)
Got anything from the John Birch Society to go along with this other right wing horsesht that you call educating.

www.jbs.org/ very cool website
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Carol you just keep right on with the right wing distortions that necessarily have to be presented by the outfit that thought the whole deal up in the first place but who would have something completely different to say if the healthcare law had been implemented by a Republican.
but it is good for a giggle or 2.
Almost all sources say the same thing. I tried looking for any source with some good news but couldn't find even one.

So either there IS no good news or liberal sources are keeping it a secret.

It was a simple question. Appparently, you couldn't answer it.
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I had more faith in the intelligence of the American public than I should have. I figured that there was absolutely no way the majority of the voters would ignore the fact that Lord Obama is second only to Jimmy Carter in his handling of the economy. The numbers don't lie-- look at the unemployment rate, the debt, on and on and on.
I thought the majority wouldn't ignore his embarassing behavior with foreign affairs, standing up the Israeli prime minister, the Benghazi debacle.
I thought people would look at his infatuation with movie stars, rap singers, etc. partying at the White House, Moochelle flying 60 of her closest friends on our dime to Spain for a week of frolick in the sand and be a bit annoyed.
But I was wrong. The majority, like you, are in it for the free stuff. Women were convinced to vote for him so they could get free (paid for by an Evil Rich Guy) birth control pills and save $9/month. Families everywhere were bought with free (paid for by an Evil Rich Guy) school breakfasts, lunches and dinners. Let the party continue.
It's really rather pathetic. What will it take to persuade you parasites that WORKING IS GOOD. I guess when the last Evil Rich Guy is tapped out, the well runs dry, and the Free Stuff isn't available, you'll burn tires in the street and whine like they do in Greece, Spain and elsewhere.
Whatever happens, you own it. In four more years the unemployment rate is still around 10% and the debt is in the tens of trillions, YOU VOTED FOR IT.
Congratulations.
I could not believe anyone would vote for a man touting the EXACT same promises and ideas that got America in this shape. But I see your dumbass has forgotten the collapse of 2008 when an average of 726,000 jobs per month were being lost.
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carol wrote:
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Can you find any good news relating to Obamacare? If so, please share it.
Alas, I do not vote. There is no point.
I observe, learn and comment for entertainment only.

People are interesting, even those that clearly
can only see the negative.

Eternally pessimistic.

Why not question WHY the country soundly said NO to the GOP? This election was a profound massive defeat of virtually everything Romney and the GOP stood for or supported.

Why do the majority embrace OBCare?

I can’t think of any president in my lifetime that has fomented greater division among the populace, exposed class warfare and the obviously widening racial divisions within the GOP.

“Amor patriae.”

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<quoted text>You stupid Repubs NEVER consider the cost of 30 million Americans without health insurance to the rest of America.
You liberals would consider the cost of ANYTHING, as long as you don't have to pay it.
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Stoneman wrote:
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I had more faith in the intelligence of the American public than I should have. I figured that there was absolutely no way the majority of the voters would ignore the fact that Lord Obama is second only to Jimmy Carter in his handling of the economy. The numbers don't lie-- look at the unemployment rate, the debt, on and on and on.
I thought the majority wouldn't ignore his embarassing behavior with foreign affairs, standing up the Israeli prime minister, the Benghazi debacle.
I thought people would look at his infatuation with movie stars, rap singers, etc. partying at the White House, Moochelle flying 60 of her closest friends on our dime to Spain for a week of frolick in the sand and be a bit annoyed.
But I was wrong. The majority, like you, are in it for the free stuff. Women were convinced to vote for him so they could get free (paid for by an Evil Rich Guy) birth control pills and save $9/month. Families everywhere were bought with free (paid for by an Evil Rich Guy) school breakfasts, lunches and dinners. Let the party continue.
It's really rather pathetic. What will it take to persuade you parasites that WORKING IS GOOD. I guess when the last Evil Rich Guy is tapped out, the well runs dry, and the Free Stuff isn't available, you'll burn tires in the street and whine like they do in Greece, Spain and elsewhere.
Whatever happens, you own it. In four more years the unemployment rate is still around 10% and the debt is in the tens of trillions, YOU VOTED FOR IT.
Congratulations.
An overwhelming number of the population earning less than $30,000 voted for Obama and more of the same.

Single women overwhelming voted for Obama and more of the same, mainly when it comes to abortion and free birth control.

An overwhelming number of Hispanics and Latinos voted for Obama because of the Dream Act - and more of the same. We failed to get the right message to this group of Americans who statistically share more conserative values than liberal.

We can reach women and Hispanics/Latinos with the right messenger and the right message the next time around.

Unfortunately, that didn' happen this time. Admittedly, Romney inadvertently sent the wrong message more than once. His Mormonism also hurt his getting more votes.

Sadly, we had the wrong messenger in the last two elections. That will change in 2016. Once Obama's tax hikes and Obamcare starts hitting people where it hurts the most, it could change by 2014.

“fairtax.org”

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<quoted text>Same points were made when Medicare was enacted. You Repubs hate that universal health care plan for seniors as well. But I have NEVER known of a Repub 65 or older that pays their medical bills out of their own pocket in protest of the Socialist Plan. Hypocrites one and all.
to bad they didn't have the option to invest that same money in a private retirement account. They would be receiving 3 times the money the government gives them.
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carol wrote:
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Almost all sources say the same thing. I tried looking for any source with some good news but couldn't find even one.
So either there IS no good news or liberal sources are keeping it a secret.
It was a simple question. Appparently, you couldn't answer it.
I don't need to answer it. No point. It's the 'law of the land'. With no recourse for republicans other than to bitch about that that they can't change.

Maybe you should 'educate'(for the 50th time?) with something more topical? Like the steps needed to be taken so the GOP can win another national election. It's all the rage on the right wing sites. Go educate yourself.
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As long as the GOP is seen as working in the interests of corporations and concentrated wealth, and as long as it promotes an economic agenda that includes little or nothing relevant for most working- and middle-class Americans, any other changes it makes will most likely be in vain.

Jindal’s rebuke to Romney is fine as far as it goes, but notice what he says in his response. Jindal said:

One, we are fighting for 100 percent of the votes, and secondly, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream, period. No exceptions.

Jindal is obviously a much less tone-deaf politician than Romney, but he is simply asserting that “our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream.” This could depend on what Jindal means by “our policies,” but if he’s talking about what the national GOP has done when it was in power in the last decade and what it proposes to do in the future it doesn’t appear to be true. Asserting that Republican policies benefit everyone doesn’t make the GOP more appealing. When it appears that these policies don’t even seem to benefit large numbers of the GOP’s reliable voters, telling people that they benefit from policies that do little or nothing for them isn’t the way to gain their trust or support. Not recognizing this is the root of the party’s weaknesses with voters.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/lariso...
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First Bush gave and now talk about a gift. Mitt Romney is a gift that just keeps on giving to the Democrat Party.
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Ann Romney is distraught because she fears Mitt is having an affair, so she went to a gun shop and bought her a handgun. The next day she comes home to find Mitt in bed with Sarah Palin, She grabs the gun and holds it to her her head. Mitt jumps out of bed, begging and pleading with her not to shoot herself. Hysterically Ann responds to Mitt "Shut up you;re next.
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Here’s how Republicans can gain back their popularity: Admit Obamacare was their idea. Go on, just admit it. They renounced it once Obama embraced it. It’s now law. It’s popular. Reclaim what is (ahem) rightfully Republican!

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20121116/O...
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MOFFIT (HERITAGE FOUNDATION): We’ve been honored by your request…to participate in giving our best advise and our technical assistance in designing a new and different kind of health insurance market. A market that is patient-centered and consumer-based, which will ease access to affordable coverage for thousands of Bay State citizens. This is new. It’s a new market, where individuals and families will be able to own and control their health insurance and take it with them to from job to job… Nothing like it has ever been attempted anywhere else in the United States. So Massachusetts has raised the bar for every state in the union. And that’s the applause you’ve given to your public officials here today is going to echo far beyond the hallow halls of this historic place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Far beyond......
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Imhotep wrote:
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Alas, I do not vote. There is no point.
I observe, learn and comment for entertainment only.
People are interesting, even those that clearly
can only see the negative.
Eternally pessimistic.
Why not question WHY the country soundly said NO to the GOP? This election was a profound massive defeat of virtually everything Romney and the GOP stood for or supported.
Why do the majority embrace OBCare?
I can’t think of any president in my lifetime that has fomented greater division among the populace, exposed class warfare and the obviously widening racial divisions within the GOP.
Those who don't play the game aren't allowed to criticize those who do. It's a rule...somewhere.

The country voted against the GOP because for several reasons. We didn't have the right messenger who played it safe instead of painting a clear and dangerous picture of another four years, who passed up a golden opportunity in the last debate to ask the president point black about what he knew about Benghazi, and the media perpetrated the invisible war on women digging up two obscure republicans who put their foot in their mouths.

However if the election had been held right before Hurricane Sandy, the outcome might have been very different.

Obama makes a mistake if he thinks he won because of his policies. He won because Romney dropped the ball, because Romney is a Mormon and because his smear campaign worked. He also won because of a well-organized and methodical plan to get his base to the voting booths.

The country is still very much divided...more so now...and Obama will wish he hadn't won a second term if he succeeds in implementing his policies and continue to ignore and dismiss half of the country again another four years.

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