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Berlin, Adult Novelty Store Face Off In State Supreme Court

There are 75 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Apr 15, 2008, titled Berlin, Adult Novelty Store Face Off In State Supreme Court. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

The hearing on "VIP of Berlin LLC v. Town of Berlin et al" was the latest round in a dispute over the legality of the town's ordinance regulating the location of sexually-oriented businesses, including strip ...

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Mark

Manchester, CT

#67 Apr 17, 2008
For people to stereo type a store is outrageous. Some will agree and some will disagree but i believe that this store has every right being where ever. Just like the churches. You would see me in a vip but wouldn't catch me in a church unless i was dead. I say we put a band on churches. Everything is bad for the economy or area. Yeah they sexual things but if this store wasn't here then people would get it elsewhere. No one is forcing you hard*sses go to one or is it an eye sore.
More Popcorn

South Hadley, MA

#68 Apr 17, 2008
Berlin Drive In wrote:
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It was enlightening and informative that you went in and took a look for yourself. Basically, it's an adult store. Would kids want to go in? Highly doubtful. Would management allow them in? I doubt it. Nothing they are selling is illegal, nor, have I heard that anything illegal goes on at their Hartford Location. Would I want them as neighbors? If my property was zoned for commercial and I was stupid enough to buy it either near or close to, a commercial zoned piece, so be it.
There seems to be so much drama in Berlin about a VIP store. It wasn't all that long ago, the Berlin Drive in could be seen by any passerby, including a chid, riding in the family car after dark. Has Berlin changed it's image as being the smut of the pike? You can thank all your old starched politicians for allowing these businesses and this type of zoning. On the other hand, there's really no need for all this reaction over VIP. It's not a whore bordello.
My wife and I used to go there every other Friday night. Funny how her headache always seemed to go away.
East Mother

Enfield, CT

#69 Apr 17, 2008
I'm not into porn or sex toys; I'm busy with my kids and working alot.. however, I did stop in with my husband one night out of curiousity, and it was actually not bad at all. So there are porn dvd's.. big deal - that's on the internet. There were special toys, cute sexy clothing and other freaky stuff, but nothing that would have impaired my morals or made me a unlawful abiding citizen. I did actually buy my brother a really funny birthday card from the store, it was a really really big woman in a cake. It was cute. However, if this is a zoning issue, laws are laws.
But it's okay to have a Hooters? That is discrimination. They don't hire men to serve?
AMEN

AOL

#70 Apr 17, 2008
Beckie wrote:
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Berlin already zoned that building for business. A business is in there right now. In fact a fireworks business. With bright shiny displays to lure children. I'd be a lot more concerned about my kids being that close to flammable toys than an adult store with blacked out windows where kids aren't allowed. Why is it because YOU are bothered by an adult store you assume the rest of the state is? Porn is a multi billion dollar business (per year), clearly a lot more people than drug addicted knife wielders shop at VIP. What the people of Berlin decide sets a precedent for the rest of the towns in the State and we certainly don't want to send a message that we discourage business in Connecticut. We've already lost enough as it is.
Well stated. I agree 100%.
Dan Boski

AOL

#72 Apr 21, 2008
This type of store is not needed in any town in any state in America! What we is new industies in our state in our America and not let the federal government send the technology overseas! Bring back America as an industrial leader not follower!
Gotta Love It

United States

#73 Apr 22, 2008
Dan Boski wrote:
This type of store is not needed in any town in any state in America! What we is new industies in our state in our America and not let the federal government send the technology overseas! Bring back America as an industrial leader not follower!
I diagree, stores like this are needed in every state. Maybe, just maybe, all the uptight a$$holes, will actually visit one and buy something... maybe coming out of the experience with a little bit more of an open mind. Doubt it there are to many people in the world and in this country that want to control everything everyone does... pathetic.
Hells Kitchen

Saint Petersburg, FL

#74 Apr 22, 2008
Lisa wrote:
I'm all for it. The state is backwards. How come I cant buy booze on Sunday but I can gamble, shop, go to adult bookstores, etc???
The easy solution. Start buying your booze on Saturdays.
They have adult beverages on hand.

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Ex CT

Ratchaburi, Thailand

#76 Apr 27, 2008
KML80 wrote:
not one good argument? declining property values, prostitution, onsite sexual activity and disease transmission...
Kids that see establishments like this don't need tlo enter them to be harmed. Just the existence of the business near their neighborhood implies to children that these are acceptable and legitimate establishments.
These are legitimate businesses. It's a question of zoning not morals. I would guess that Wal*Mart attracts more lowlifes than this place would.
tlynn

Northfield, MA

#77 Dec 22, 2008
Stick to your guns Berlin wrote:
First, there is nothing and nobody "adult" in these adult shops. Pornography is an addiction. Most violent criminals were addicted to pornography. I hope Berlin wins. IF they don't I hope the town organizes against the establishment. I would suggest photographing car license platers in the parking lot and posting the pictures on a website. Watch how fast they go out of business.
maybe you dont get out much but people arent ashamed to go to VIP. not all people are ashamed of their bodies and their sexuality. if you personally are then dont go but there is no reason to try invading innocent customers privacy in order to attack a store. i could understand taking the billboards off the highway because those are visible to underage persons but if you dont like whats in the store, dont go to it. if you dont like the people who go then dont associate with them. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if you dont happen to share the same one. peace.
Accipiter

Manchester, CT

#78 Dec 23, 2008
Mother of Children wrote:
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Oh, here we go with the "Making it safe for the children" mantra. Guess what? Children don't frequent adult shops. Stop worrying about legislating everything down to a vanilla puddle in the name of "keeping it safe for the children". If that were so, you'd be trying to close every liquor store and cigarette company (which both surrepticiously market their products to minors) instead of worrying about an adult sex toy store.
I think Mark Twain said it best when it comes to censorship (which, in essence, this is):

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."

So, mature adults are not allowed to go into an adult shop and purchase items they are legally allowed to own, simply because such items are inappropriate for children? Wow, I suppose we should close down the convenience stores since they sell candy AND tobacco. I suppose we should also close down all the supermarkets for selling food, milk, and then around the aisle, beer and wine.

For goodness sakes, children are not allowed in adult stores. There are signs prohibiting anyone under the age of 18 from entering. There are more dangerous things in stores they're actually allowed to go into.
limehall

Wethersfield, CT

#79 Feb 8, 2009
tlynn wrote:
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maybe you dont get out much but people arent ashamed to go to VIP. not all people are ashamed of their bodies and their sexuality. if you personally are then dont go but there is no reason to try invading innocent customers privacy in order to attack a store. i could understand taking the billboards off the highway because those are visible to underage persons but if you dont like whats in the store, dont go to it. if you dont like the people who go then dont associate with them. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if you dont happen to share the same one. peace.
GET a life!! GET a man!! reputable adult stores are very securely run...the last thing they want is trouble. They are a business like any other with profit in mind.I have no doubt you drink and or smoke which is far more harmful but thats OK!! right?? Since you have nothing better to do and are so worried about kids being corrupted...why dont you take your morals down to your priest or pastor and ask him how many young boys he and his fellow clergy have molested!!!!
limehall

Wethersfield, CT

#80 Feb 8, 2009
limehall wrote:
<quoted text> GET a life!! GET a man!! reputable adult stores are very securely run...the last thing they want is trouble. They are a business like any other with profit in mind.I have no doubt you drink and or smoke which is far more harmful but thats OK!! right?? Since you have nothing better to do and are so worried about kids being corrupted...why dont you take your morals down to your priest or pastor and ask him how many young boys he and his fellow clergy have molested!!!!
very sorry...this reply was meant for BERLIN and any other 40 year old ugly woman that hates men and cant look at herself in the mirror because she hates what stares back at her.
limehall

Wethersfield, CT

#81 Feb 8, 2009
Ex CT wrote:
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These are legitimate businesses. It's a question of zoning not morals. I would guess that Wal*Mart attracts more lowlifes than this place would.
Last time I checked this was still America!! Dont like it here I will be happy to show you the door, These are legitimate businesses. They are looking to make a profit like any other. your poor kids have a far higher chance of watching worse on TV than ever gaining entry in an adult store. by the way....you want to worry about something....keep an eye on your local priest or pastor around your kids. but of course they are beyond reproach...right???
Shawn Carter

United States

#82 Apr 2, 2009
Its sad little town's like Berlin try to shun off business's like this and keep the town clean of it, but yet more of the kids that are raised in berlin are more sexually active, and most of the girls happen to be whores, but they hide it from there parents, so the parents think there angels. Its sad, maybe if they opened there eyes then they'd find out the real problem in berlin, so instead of analyzing business's on the turnpike, analyze your kids that have no morals and no self purity. Berlin is sooooo stereotypical.

“Common sense is not so common”

Since: Mar 09

New Britain, CT

#83 Apr 5, 2009
Lot's of interesting posts on this article. I think I would have more of a problem with the store being open until 2 am than with what they sell. I think Berlin, and its residents, would be better served if the zoning restricted businesses within 250 feet of a home from being open after 10pm. Include all businesses; bars, restaurants, diners, adult sex stores, Wal-mart, whatever. This seems to make more sense, but unfortunately common sense is not so common.

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