Wethersfield Should Preserve Scenic Farm

Wethersfield Should Preserve Scenic Farm

There are 51 comments on the Hartford Courant story from May 7, 2009, titled Wethersfield Should Preserve Scenic Farm. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

For centuries after its founding in 1634, Wethersfield was an agricultural town, famous for, among other things, its onions.

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Radio designee 400X

Wethersfield, CT

#1 May 8, 2009
This editorial says it all... the land 'is prime' for development..the price is well within what the land is worth by Wethersfield standards, and the opportunity to acquire it is this ONCE...if the voters don't approve it, the developers will buy it in a heart beat and pay the 3.5 million willingly... and it will NEVER again be OPEN SPACE..to say that it is UNDEVELOPABLE is just not credible...one look at the parcels by any voter wanting to make up his/her own mind, will show the voter that the "engineer's, banker's, and developers" are trying to stop the town so they can buy it and develop it..VOTE "YES" on Tuesday..I will be FIRST one to the polls to do so..!!
Lee Ann

East Hampton, CT

#2 May 8, 2009
I hope the good and intelligent people of Wethersfield will preserve this land. Connecticut has enough shopping developments and housing subdivisions. I hope they will preserve the land for themselves and for future generations.
Baddegrass

Granby, CT

#4 May 8, 2009
The current trend of buying farms to preserve a false aesthetic appeal is like closing the door after the horse is already out of the barn. The only true preservation of such land can be accomplished by more federal, state and local support of local farmers. Less federal manipulation of prices through subsidy, combined with tax benefits and exemptions for farms is a good place to start. If everyone bought local fresh produce, meats and dairy products instead of Brazilian factory farmed food laden with pesticides that have been banned in the US, then there wouldn't be a need to throw tax dollars at a piece of land to set it aside. Set asides mean that no more food will ever come from that parcel. It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to look ahead and see what the end result of this course will be. Support local farms. Vote for tax breaks for farmers. Boycott factory food. Farmland isn't just pretty. It's essential to America's future that it continue to be farmed.
Mayor of Wethersfield

Wethersfield, CT

#5 May 8, 2009
I thank the Courant for their endorsement and for their vision. There have been many distortions concerning this purchase including one that this land is not developable. I urge all Wethersfield residents to either come to the tours being offered on Saturday from 10-12 or just come and see for yourself. You can also see the maps of these parcels and the 50+ developable lots on our town's website as referenced in this editorial. We can not let the selfish visions of a few who would line their pockets with the fees for the development of this valuable farm. The opponants have said that this land can't be developed yet Mr John Miller, a well respected Engineer in town admitted at our forum the other night that he could see at least 25 building lots... Is it 0 or 25 or can't they admit that it's really 50+?!

Developing this land will stain the future for our community for generations to come. I urge our citizens to reafirm their vote from the 2006 Open Space referendum when the voters of Wethersfield already voted "YES" to save our farms and keep our schools from unecessary overcrowding. Finally, what the opponants of open space are not telling our citizens is that our taxpayers will pay for sevices from these buildable homes $1.30 in costs for every $1.00 in taxes.

Please vote YES on Tuesday.

Andy Adil
X-Ray Vision

New Hartford, CT

#6 May 8, 2009
I thought the state was broke, according to Jodi. Where is all this state "grant" money coming from ? This is only one of several state grants I've heard of recently. I have two garish 4x8 signs (mandated by the grant at about $1,000 a piece)advertising Jodi's name in my neighborhood. One project @ over $100,000 , the other, nearly that.
get a life

AOL

#7 May 8, 2009
Just like the company does with the Rocky Hill/Wethersfield meadows Winding Brook Turf Farm should rent the land from the town and harvest sod for retail ~ they get the profit pay the taxes to the town, the farm remains the basically the same and the taxpayers get the relief of an additional tax burden.
Spend Wisely

Avon, CT

#8 May 8, 2009
Isn't if funny how the Courant leaves out important facts, such as:
Housing Starts are at a 50 year low (look it up)

The sales price of the property $3,400,000 does not take the above fact into account.(this can be verified)

The wetlands issues that the Wilkus Farm has were dismissed out of hand by the Courant as not be an obstacle to full development. This is not full disclosure and certainly not truthful.

As a result of accepting the $490,000 from The State, The Town cannot use the land for active recreation or for building anything, even if it was in character with a farm.

The Town of Glastonbury pays a fraction per acre than what we are being asked to pay for the Wilkus Farm.

As a result of paying too much for the Wilkus Farm, there will be insufficient resources to purchase other more developable properties.

Can The Town purchase the land use restriction back from The State at a future date? If so, at what price?
DrKen

Oxford, CT

#10 May 8, 2009
For a balanced summary of the issues related to the Referendum and the original Council actions for purchasing the Wilkus Farm, I recommend your visiting:

www.wethersfield.net/wilkusfarm

Recent events and news items are presented as well as official actions of the two groups who are respectively working for the passage of the referendum (Safe the Farm, PAC) and for its defeat (Fiscally Prudent Majority, Group)
Mayor 420

Stratford, CT

#11 May 8, 2009
The Courant has never written an opinion AGAINST spending taxpayer money. No wonder they are bankrupt and a shell of a paper.
Mayor 420

Stratford, CT

#12 May 8, 2009
Mayor of Wethersfield wrote:
I thank the Courant for their endorsement and for their vision. There have been many distortions concerning this purchase including one that this land is not developable. I urge all Wethersfield residents to either come to the tours being offered on Saturday from 10-12 or just come and see for yourself. You can also see the maps of these parcels and the 50+ developable lots on our town's website as referenced in this editorial. We can not let the selfish visions of a few who would line their pockets with the fees for the development of this valuable farm. The opponants have said that this land can't be developed yet Mr John Miller, a well respected Engineer in town admitted at our forum the other night that he could see at least 25 building lots... Is it 0 or 25 or can't they admit that it's really 50+?!
Developing this land will stain the future for our community for generations to come. I urge our citizens to reafirm their vote from the 2006 Open Space referendum when the voters of Wethersfield already voted "YES" to save our farms and keep our schools from unecessary overcrowding. Finally, what the opponants of open space are not telling our citizens is that our taxpayers will pay for sevices from these buildable homes $1.30 in costs for every $1.00 in taxes.
Please vote YES on Tuesday.
Andy Adil
The claim that no houses can be built is just as big a lie as the town's claim that more than 50 can. Twisting the words of someone who disagrees with you to make them appear to say something that is untrue doesn't prove that you are correct.

And you might want to invest in some better spell-check software.
Shameless Commerce Div

Wallingford, CT

#13 May 8, 2009
Mayor 420
South Glastonbury, CT
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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#11 2 hrs ago
"The Courant has never written an opinion AGAINST spending taxpayer money. No wonder they are bankrup(t)"
Have you ever said anything positive in any of your threads?? You are one misable person!
This farm is wel worth the price. Not only that, the town will lose revenue if the houses go up... The statement that housing construction is down at this moment may be true for about two seconds but don't forget-THERE ARE VERY FEW BUILDING LOTS IN WETHERSFIELD as opposed to Glastonbury and most other towns in this state! But don't fool yourself...Developers are waiting in the wings with certain self serving engineering firms at the ready, to fully develop this land and costing the town in taxes for ever!
Matt

Manchester, NH

#14 May 8, 2009
Usable, fractionally usable or not usable, this purchase falls under two headings. First it may cause the cost of property to increase, good or bad. This is because it says to computer software and disconnected people that land is no longer available in the amount that it was. Next, it falls under "too little too late." How noble to cry out for preservation once everyone has made their money over developing Wethersfield. Even half acre lots would have been an improvement since the 1970s when people were starting to wake up in other areas. Generally it falls under whether you want to spend the money. Far better has generously been sold for far less.
Shameless Commerce Div

Wallingford, CT

#15 May 8, 2009
Mayor 420 wrote:
<quoted text>
The claim that no houses can be built is just as big a lie as the town's claim that more than 50 can. Twisting the words of someone who disagrees with you to make them appear to say something that is untrue doesn't prove that you are correct.
And you might want to invest in some better spell-check software.
Perhaps lying is an artform where you come from but I don't see why professional staff deserves to be slandered nor does the Mayor deserve your b.s. At least he identified himself instead of hiding behind some fake name like you or I!
Shameless Commerce Div

Wallingford, CT

#16 May 8, 2009
Baddegrass wrote:
The current trend of buying farms to preserve a false aesthetic appeal is like closing the door after the horse is already out of the barn. The only true preservation of such land can be accomplished by more federal, state and local support of local farmers. Less federal manipulation of prices through subsidy, combined with tax benefits and exemptions for farms is a good place to start. If everyone bought local fresh produce, meats and dairy products instead of Brazilian factory farmed food laden with pesticides that have been banned in the US, then there wouldn't be a need to throw tax dollars at a piece of land to set it aside. Set asides mean that no more food will ever come from that parcel. It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to look ahead and see what the end result of this course will be. Support local farms. Vote for tax breaks for farmers. Boycott factory food. Farmland isn't just pretty. It's essential to America's future that it continue to be farmed.
It certainly could be farmed if it is saved but no certainly will not be farmed if it's developed -- so what side do you come down on??
Ella

United States

#17 May 8, 2009
Cougar wrote:
NO...You have it all wrong.. If John Miller says it is not developable, it is not developable.. NO one would buy that land..it is worthless.. it is swamp land, flood plain, and if the Town of Wethersfield doesn't buy it? Nobody will.. no one would pay for that worthless land..John Miller says so!! And he should know..and Bill Smyer's? Bill is another "civil engineer" who knows that no one will buy that land.... They both work for the Civil Engineering firm CLOSE,JENSEN, and MILLER, and they would NEVER pay any money for that land..after all, they have laid out sub-division's for contractor's (like Mr. Randazzo and Mr. Drisdelle and Toll Brother's) for years so they know that NO DEVELOPER would EVER buy that land...EVER.. the town's people should really LISTEN TO THEM..because they are telling the TRUTH...common sense will show anyone who drives to those property that you need 'boots' to walk around on them because they are FLOOD PLAIN. Mr. Miller says so in his VIDEO on you tube.. and Mr. Miller would NEVER, EVER pass on misinformation just for a dollar...EVER
I don't agree with your statements. All the properties (including the Thornbush Rd site by the reservior) border neighborhood developments. In many communities, land deemed "wetlands" is often times purchased only to be "filled in" and built upon. There are at least 2 examples of this situation in Wethersfield currently. The Town's purchasing of the 3 parcels is a good move. Voters, please vote yes for the purchase. Other than these 3 parcels, there is virtually no other open space left.
Chet

Ottawa, IL

#18 May 8, 2009
Shouldn't we try to leave SOME open farm land in this country?

I mean, you never know when we might need food again.
Mayor 420

Stratford, CT

#19 May 8, 2009
Ella wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't agree with your statements. All the properties (including the Thornbush Rd site by the reservior) border neighborhood developments. In many communities, land deemed "wetlands" is often times purchased only to be "filled in" and built upon. There are at least 2 examples of this situation in Wethersfield currently. The Town's purchasing of the 3 parcels is a good move. Voters, please vote yes for the purchase. Other than these 3 parcels, there is virtually no other open space left.
Virtually no other open space left? The Town's 2000 Plan of Conservation and Development says that there were at that time 2,595.5 acres of privately owned open space in the town. Two Thousand Five Hundred Ninety-Five Acres. In addition, it says that there were 30.89 acres owned by the town and 142 acres of municipal and state open space. Altogether over 2,700 acres of open space in town. Get real.
Mayor 420

Stratford, CT

#20 May 8, 2009
Chet wrote:
Shouldn't we try to leave SOME open farm land in this country?
I mean, you never know when we might need food again.
If we accept the state grant to buy the property, it can't be put to any commercial use. Ever. It also would have to be kept open for passive recreation and unlimited access by the public from anywhere in the state. Forever. So unless people want to eat hay or spend all their time hoping that the birdwatchers and other members of the public don't eat their vegetables, it is never going to be used for human food production.
Ellie Phant

New Hartford, CT

#21 May 8, 2009
The purchase is to preserve "scenic character and agricultural tradition"?

The town has already sold its soul to developers and bankers and engineers.$3.5M for a remnant of what once was? I think not.
Workable Farm

Wethersfield, CT

#23 May 8, 2009
Mayor 420 wrote:
<quoted text>
If we accept the state grant to buy the property, it can't be put to any commercial use. Ever. It also would have to be kept open for passive recreation and unlimited access by the public from anywhere in the state. Forever. So unless people want to eat hay or spend all their time hoping that the birdwatchers and other members of the public don't eat their vegetables, it is never going to be used for human food production.
You by any chance work for Mr Miller? You haven't a clue as to what can be done with this farm, ie a non-profit could most certainly make this a workable farm, just like Barney & Ed did. You don't mention that this has been hayed for years either... You hoping to earn some commission from the developers from these postings??

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