Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 321930 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316586 Nov 26, 2013
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe so. What I do know is that when you or I see a fetus, we see a fetus. She (and others like her) sees a newborn. You and I know these are different organisms completely. To her (and others like her) they're exactly the same, just at "different stages" of life. NR's ridiculous claim of 12th trimester comes to mind here.
I don't think there's any way talking sense into her or others like her. Or getting around it. She understood why my daughter's death was more meaningful to me, but thought that equated to making the lost fetus unimportant. She probably makes similar deductions with your insightful posts, NAP.
But that's her problem. Not yours. Not mine.
Part I:

Katie V.: "You and I know these are different organisms completely. To her (and others like her) they're exactly the same, just at 'different stages' of life."

_________

Part II:

Katie V.: "I named mine Aaron. And still do today."
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316587 Nov 26, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ending an unwanted, medically meddlesome, rape generated, life threatening pregnancy does fix a problem no matter how much you kick and scream. Deal with it as opposed to blaming women or accusing them of being used or being a sex toy or being out of control. Not every woman is a frigid uppity bitch like you. You have NO idea the reasons or circumstances women deal with, you just like to pretend you do in your fetus worshipping fog.
Morgana:'Ending an the life of an unwanted baby does fix a problem.'

I'll take "Things Casey Anthony said" for $500, Alex.
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316588 Nov 26, 2013
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe so. What I do know is that when you or I see a fetus, we see a fetus. She (and others like her) sees a newborn. You and I know these are different organisms completely. To her (and others like her) they're exactly the same, just at "different stages" of life. NR's ridiculous claim of 12th trimester comes to mind here.
I don't think there's any way talking sense into her or others like her. Or getting around it. She understood why my daughter's death was more meaningful to me, but thought that equated to making the lost fetus unimportant. She probably makes similar deductions with your insightful posts, NAP.
But that's her problem. Not yours. Not mine.
Katie V.: Prolifers say those in the womb are at "different stages" of life. NR's ridiculous claim of 12th trimester comes to mind here.
_______

"Trimester" is a measurement of time.

Caylee Anthony was in her 12th trimester of life when her mother killed her. She was alive in her mother's womb, just as your son Aaron was in your womb.
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316589 Nov 26, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ending an unwanted, medically meddlesome, rape generated, life threatening pregnancy does fix a problem no matter how much you kick and scream. Deal with it as opposed to blaming women or accusing them of being used or being a sex toy or being out of control. Not every woman is a frigid uppity bitch like you. You have NO idea the reasons or circumstances women deal with, you just like to pretend you do in your fetus worshipping fog.
Morgana:..."unwanted "..."meddlesome "..."does fix a problem...

Killing innocents for convenience much?
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316590 Nov 26, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>Please don't tell ME about having real issues to deal with okay? You have no clue what I've been through. While my heart breaks for you after reading your post(the first part about your daughter),I can't help but to see something h&#281;re that confirms my point to you. You talk about "Aaron,your miscarried "son" and now your daughter(who passed after birth). You said that "SHE" almost died before being delivered and how if she did,YOU would have NEVER known each other,have held HER to your breast and nursed her,comforted her cries when SHE wa too hot or too warm,say HER firt word,seen HER take her first step or hear HER giggle. TWO children of yours,talked about while in the womb,as if they were REAL individual and not just some WAD OF USELESS CELLS. ONE survived and you got to experience those things. Yet,you lost her early in her life which deeply pains you not being able to experience the *rest of HER life*. The other two died while in utero,and only one got named. Aaron was your son somehow.
Interesting that you dehumanize those still young and in the womb during the journey of their lives. You are fighting me for the right to KILL them AND I AM THE "EVIL" ONE KATIE????????
My condolences on your losses. I am sure the grown adult daughters loss was the worst experience you faced. I can't even IMAGINE losing my child. I almost did and just reading your post choked me up. I know the response I will get so don't even bother responding.. I speak from my heart and your approval of it is not required.
SassyJM: "Katie, you are fighting me for the right to KILL them AND I AM THE "EVIL" ONE KATIE????????"

Katie just doesn't get it. She uses the pain she experienced from her daughter's death as a reason mothers should have the right to intentionally kill their daughters in the womb.

In her deluded & convoluted mind, it all makes sense. To right minded individuals, she's a complex sociopath.
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316591 Nov 26, 2013
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
As far as I know, neither I nor anyone else has ever claimed the embryo/fetus isn't important.
What I do know is that others and I have been demonized by the likes of you, NR, and JM because we believe women, even when they're pregnant, deserve the same civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy as men.
I have never claimed Aaron wasn't important. Had he survived, who knows what life would have been like? I played the 'what if' game for a while after losing that pregnancy. Maybe life would have gone a different direction altogether. Maybe my youngest would never have been born. Maybe my middle daughter would never have been born. Maybe it would've been just my oldest daughter and Aaron, girl and boy, done now, snip and tie those tubes please. Who knows?
What I do know is life's all about choices. Good and bad. We live with the consequences. Or we don't live at all. Then we become somebody's memory. But life is short whether it's a hundred days or a hundred years. Make the best of it. And don't leave this world with unfinished business. Don't leave it for those who mourn you to clean up after you.
Part I:
Katie V.: "As far as I know, neither I nor anyone else has ever claimed the embryo/fetus isn't important."

Part II:
Katie V.: "No, I don't think calling those in the womb a useless wad of cells is disrespecting anyone."
__________

Katie V.: "What I do know is that others and I have been demonized by the likes of you, NR, and JM because we believe women, even when they're pregnant, deserve the same civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy as men."

There it is again. Katie transitions from her preborn baby son Aaron into the right for mothers to kill their preborn babies.

You can't make this shit up.

Katie is so messed up she doesn't even realize what she's saying....

Again.
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316592 Nov 26, 2013
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
You would only think/believe this if you were completely unable to realize it was my fetus, my pregnancy, my business. Your fetus, your pregnancy, your business.
The only mess here is yours. Get busy and clean it up!
Katie Van der Sloot: "it was my fetus, my pregnancy, my business."

That's what Casey Anthony thought about her 12-trimester-old daughter Caylee. Stay out of Casey's business, Katie. Let her kill her daughter...it's HER business.
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316593 Nov 26, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text> Katie,you degrade,dehumanize and show total disrespect for your child or anothers,while they are developing in the womb. You are here fighting for the right to kill them.Now BECAUSE it suited żou,you gave this "useles wad of cell" a name? Did it make you feel good or something? Yet,your other miscarried child,you didn't name? THAT one was a nothing because he/she was a few weeks behind in gestation age?
You are very confused.
^^^ Worth reposting ^^^
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316594 Nov 26, 2013
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you ever talk to me about dehumanizing anything you evil thing draped in a fake Christ. You think you're "honoring" a 30 plus year old fetus who never saw the light of day or felt the sun on his cheeks? You are disrespecting all lost pregnancies with your fakey fake concern for dead fetuses you'll never know about if you're not told about it. You wouldn't know humanity if it hit you right between the eyes. Especially when you continue trying to steal women's civil rights out from under them. Right out from your own daughters' feet!!
Your smugness won't save you if/when you have real issues to deal with in your life time.
Katie V.: "Don't you ever talk to me about dehumanizing anything. You think you're "honoring" a 30 plus year old fetus who never saw the light of day or felt the sun on his cheeks?...fakey fake concern for dead fetuses you'll never know about if you're not told. You wouldn't know humanity if it hit you right between the eyes. Especially when you continue trying to steal women's civil rights out from under them."

Katie vehemently denies dehumanizing anything, then goes on to do just that.(unbelievable)

According to Katie V., her son should not be honored because of how long ago he died, b/c he never felt the sun against his cheeks, b/c he never saw daylight, b/c few know he existed.

As expected, Katie then transitions into her diehard support for killing babies (like Aaron) in the womb.

She doesn't realize how whacked out she is. She's emotionally/psychologically ill.
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316595 Nov 26, 2013
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
I miss my daughter who would be 21 a week after Christmas. I missed seeing her graduate high school. I missed teaching her how to drive. She was going to have her first lesson the next day. We were going to have lasagna for dinner the night she died. She was going to clean her room. It was a 4-day weekend. Semester break. She was a sophomore in high school.
She almost died before being delivered. I almost died, too. Had we died, we never would have known each other. I never would have held her to my breast and nursed her. I never would have comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm. I never would have heard her first word (it was not Mama), seen her take her first steps, or hear her giggle.
I did not have anything with my lost pregnancy other than lost dreams. He didn't survive, he didn't live. He wasn't as real to me as my youngest daughter is. She lived. She breathed. In and out. Over and over and over until the morning she stopped.
Don't you ever talk to me about dehumanizing anything you evil thing draped in a fake Christ. You think you're "honoring" a 30 plus year old fetus who never saw the light of day or felt the sun on his cheeks? You are disrespecting all lost pregnancies with your fakey fake concern for dead fetuses you'll never know about if you're not told about it. You wouldn't know humanity if it hit you right between the eyes. Especially when you continue trying to steal women's civil rights out from under them. Right out from your own daughters' feet!!
Your smugness won't save you if/when you have real issues to deal with in your life time.
Act I: Sentimental Katie

"I held my daughter to my breast and nursed her. I comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm. I heard her first word (it was not Mama), seen her take her first steps, & heard giggle."
_______

Act II: Evil Conniving Katie

"Stop trying to prevent mothers from killing their daughters in the womb! And, further more, my son Aaron does not deserve being honored. Stop it!"
_______

And the Oscar goes to..........
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316596 Nov 26, 2013
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
I miss my daughter who would be 21 a week after Christmas. I missed seeing her graduate high school. I missed teaching her how to drive. She was going to have her first lesson the next day. We were going to have lasagna for dinner the night she died. She was going to clean her room. It was a 4-day weekend. Semester break. She was a sophomore in high school.
She almost died before being delivered. I almost died, too. Had we died, we never would have known each other. I never would have held her to my breast and nursed her. I never would have comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm. I never would have heard her first word (it was not Mama), seen her take her first steps, or hear her giggle.
I did not have anything with my lost pregnancy other than lost dreams. He didn't survive, he didn't live. He wasn't as real to me as my youngest daughter is. She lived. She breathed. In and out. Over and over and over until the morning she stopped.
Don't you ever talk to me about dehumanizing anything you evil thing draped in a fake Christ. You think you're "honoring" a 30 plus year old fetus who never saw the light of day or felt the sun on his cheeks? You are disrespecting all lost pregnancies with your fakey fake concern for dead fetuses you'll never know about if you're not told about it. You wouldn't know humanity if it hit you right between the eyes. Especially when you continue trying to steal women's civil rights out from under them. Right out from your own daughters' feet!!
Your smugness won't save you if/when you have real issues to deal with in your life time.
Apparently, Katie's daughter's death was all about Katie.
_________

*I* miss my daughter.

*I* missed seeing her graduate high school.

*I* missed teaching her how to drive.

*I* almost died before she was delivered

Had she died before delivery,*I* never would have held her to my breast and nursed her.

*I* never would have comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm.

*I* never would have heard her first word

*I* never would have seen her take her first steps

*I* never would have heard her giggle.

*I* did not have anything when *I* lost Aaron in the womb

Don't you ever talk to *me* about dehumanizing anything

Shame on you for honoring *my* son Aaron!

*I* believe a mother has a right to kill her baby in her womb!

*I* think you're smug!
_______

(Someone has a bad case of the *I's*)

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#316597 Nov 26, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently, Katie's daughter's death was all about Katie.
_________
*I* miss my daughter.
*I* missed seeing her graduate high school.
*I* missed teaching her how to drive.
*I* almost died before she was delivered
Had she died before delivery,*I* never would have held her to my breast and nursed her.
*I* never would have comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm.
*I* never would have heard her first word
*I* never would have seen her take her first steps
*I* never would have heard her giggle.
*I* did not have anything when *I* lost Aaron in the womb
Don't you ever talk to *me* about dehumanizing anything
Shame on you for honoring *my* son Aaron!
*I* believe a mother has a right to kill her baby in her womb!
*I* think you're smug!
_______
(Someone has a bad case of the *I's*)
Given that the discussion was about the woman's feelings about the difference between miscarriages and the death of a child, whose perspective SHOULD she have been posting from, you idiot?
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316598 Nov 26, 2013
Katie: "I...I....me.....I.....my ......myself.....mine....I.... I....me......I...."

Bystander One: "What is Katie talking about?"

Bystander Two: "Her daughter that died."
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316599 Nov 26, 2013
Katie: "I...I....me.....I.....my ......myself.....mine....I.... I....me......I...."

Bystander One: "What is Katie talking about?"

Bystander Two: "Her son Aaron who died in utero."
No Relativism

Chicago, IL

#316600 Nov 26, 2013
When others' lives & deaths are all about you, you're called a narcissist.

If intertwined with this narcissism is a selfishness at all cost (including execution of innocents for convenience-sake), then you're also a sociopath.

"My grandma is weird."

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#316601 Nov 26, 2013
Ink

Havertown, PA

#316602 Nov 26, 2013
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe so. What I do know is that when you or I see a fetus, we see a fetus. She (and others like her) sees a newborn. You and I know these are different organisms completely. To her (and others like her) they're exactly the same, just at "different stages" of life. NR's ridiculous claim of 12th trimester comes to mind here.
I don't think there's any way talking sense into her or others like her. Or getting around it. She understood why my daughter's death was more meaningful to me, but thought that equated to making the lost fetus unimportant. She probably makes similar deductions with your insightful posts, NAP.
But that's her problem. Not yours. Not mine.
You can rationalize the killing of unborn babies any way you want but the fetus is the same entity as the newborn, just as human and just as much a son or daughter.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#316603 Nov 26, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ending an unwanted, medically meddlesome, rape generated, life threatening pregnancy does fix a problem no matter how much you kick and scream.
That is one hell of a pregnancy. Sounds like 'Rosemary's Baby'.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#316604 Nov 26, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
You can rationalize the killing of unborn babies any way you want but the fetus is the same entity as the newborn, just as human and just as much a son or daughter.
You're entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is.

YOU can rationalize letting your six year old daughter go off with a person YOU believed committed multiple child murders all you like, but no sane parent would ever do so.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#316605 Nov 26, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
You can rationalize the killing of unborn babies any way you want but the fetus is the same entity as the newborn, just as human and just as much a son or daughter.
Still calling fetuses babies, I see.

Continue to waive your fundie flag of deceit.

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