Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310980 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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sassyjm

Cresskill, NJ

#316550 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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I miss my daughter who would be 21 a week after Christmas. I missed seeing her graduate high school. I missed teaching her how to drive. She was going to have her first lesson the next day. We were going to have lasagna for dinner the night she died. She was going to clean her room. It was a 4-day weekend. Semester break. She was a sophomore in high school.
She almost died before being delivered. I almost died, too. Had we died, we never would have known each other. I never would have held her to my breast and nursed her. I never would have comforted her cries when she was too cold or too warm. I never would have heard her first word (it was not Mama), seen her take her first steps, or hear her giggle.
I did not have anything with my lost pregnancy other than lost dreams. He didn't survive, he didn't live. He wasn't as real to me as my youngest daughter is. She lived. She breathed. In and out. Over and over and over until the morning she stopped.
Don't you ever talk to me about dehumanizing anything you evil thing draped in a fake Christ. You think you're "honoring" a 30 plus year old fetus who never saw the light of day or felt the sun on his cheeks? You are disrespecting all lost pregnancies with your fakey fake concern for dead fetuses you'll never know about if you're not told about it. You wouldn't know humanity if it hit you right between the eyes. Especially when you continue trying to steal women's civil rights out from under them. Right out from your own daughters' feet!!
Your smugness won't save you if/when you have real issues to deal with in your life time.
Please don't tell ME about having real issues to deal with okay? You have no clue what I've been through. While my heart breaks for you after reading your post(the first part about your daughter),I can't help but to see something h&#281;re that confirms my point to you. You talk about "Aaron,your miscarried "son" and now your daughter(who passed after birth). You said that "SHE" almost died before being delivered and how if she did,YOU would have NEVER known each other,have held HER to your breast and nursed her,comforted her cries when SHE wa too hot or too warm,say HER firt word,seen HER take her first step or hear HER giggle. TWO children of yours,talked about while in the womb,as if they were REAL individual and not just some WAD OF USELESS CELLS. ONE survived and you got to experience those things. Yet,you lost her early in her life which deeply pains you not being able to experience the *rest of HER life*. The other two died while in utero,and only one got named. Aaron was your son somehow.

Interesting that you dehumanize those still young and in the womb during the journey of their lives. You are fighting me for the right to KILL them AND I AM THE "EVIL" ONE KATIE????????

My condolences on your losses. I am sure the grown adult daughters loss was the worst experience you faced. I can't even IMAGINE losing my child. I almost did and just reading your post choked me up. I know the response I will get so don't even bother responding.. I speak from my heart and your approval of it is not required.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#316551 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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Do you really think so? Here's what I think, only if it was enforced. Who would have enforced it? The same negligent health department?
If he was required to be either an obstetrician or a gynecologist, he wouldn't have been able to run his clinic. Also being required to be on staff at a hospital in case of emergency would have caused a problem for him. Possibly a sonogram would have prevented 40 week fetuses from being aborted alive and then killed to accomplish 'fetal demise'. BTW it wasn't a fetus but he called it that.
Ink

Kansas City, MO

#316552 Nov 25, 2013
copycat
katie

Tacoma, WA

#316553 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Katie, your post is very honest and heartwrenching. I am sorry that you lost your daughter. The loss of your daughter was of course, more meaningful to you than the fetus, but that doesn't mean his life was unimportant. All babies born and unborn are important even if we don't get attached. It doesn't matter if their lives are long or short and if he had lived it would have been another close person to comfort you.
Most women could find a way to share their lives with one child that they created.
As far as I know, neither I nor anyone else has ever claimed the embryo/fetus isn't important.

What I do know is that others and I have been demonized by the likes of you, NR, and JM because we believe women, even when they're pregnant, deserve the same civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy as men.

I have never claimed Aaron wasn't important. Had he survived, who knows what life would have been like? I played the 'what if' game for a while after losing that pregnancy. Maybe life would have gone a different direction altogether. Maybe my youngest would never have been born. Maybe my middle daughter would never have been born. Maybe it would've been just my oldest daughter and Aaron, girl and boy, done now, snip and tie those tubes please. Who knows?

What I do know is life's all about choices. Good and bad. We live with the consequences. Or we don't live at all. Then we become somebody's memory. But life is short whether it's a hundred days or a hundred years. Make the best of it. And don't leave this world with unfinished business. Don't leave it for those who mourn you to clean up after you.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#316554 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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As far as I know, neither I nor anyone else has ever claimed the embryo/fetus isn't important.
What I do know is that others and I have been demonized by the likes of you, NR, and JM because we believe women, even when they're pregnant, deserve the same civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy as men.
I have never claimed Aaron wasn't important. Had he survived, who knows what life would have been like? I played the 'what if' game for a while after losing that pregnancy. Maybe life would have gone a different direction altogether. Maybe my youngest would never have been born. Maybe my middle daughter would never have been born. Maybe it would've been just my oldest daughter and Aaron, girl and boy, done now, snip and tie those tubes please. Who knows?
What I do know is life's all about choices. Good and bad. We live with the consequences. Or we don't live at all. Then we become somebody's memory. But life is short whether it's a hundred days or a hundred years. Make the best of it. And don't leave this world with unfinished business. Don't leave it for those who mourn you to clean up after you.
You have no hope of seeing your daughter again?

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#316555 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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It is a mantra on here that women should have 'healthy sex lives' and shouldn't be forced to give birth to the resulting child.
How are you ladies going to have a 'healthy sex life' if all the guys keep it in their pants?
Just think Ink, if everybody kept it in their pants there would be 0 abortions and 0 births.@@

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#316556 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Bitner says 'execute them'.
I didn't see Bitner say "execute the innocent ones".

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#316557 Nov 25, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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LMAO!
"She sounds hideous!"
Too funny!!!!!
katie

Tacoma, WA

#316558 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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If he was required to be either an obstetrician or a gynecologist, he wouldn't have been able to run his clinic. Also being required to be on staff at a hospital in case of emergency would have caused a problem for him. Possibly a sonogram would have prevented 40 week fetuses from being aborted alive and then killed to accomplish 'fetal demise'. BTW it wasn't a fetus but he called it that.
According to this report, am not sure it would have made any difference. The way I see it, the Health Department was extremely negligent in its monitoring and oversight of Gosnell's "clinic".

"When the clinic was first inspected in 1979, it had a medical director on staff who was a certified obstetrician/gynecologist. The certificate for approval after that inspection expired in December 1980, but the next "documented site review was not conducted until August 1989."

By then, Gosnell was the only doctor affiliated with the clinic. At that investigation, the state health department "noted several violations of Pennsylvania abortion regulations" but "based on mere promises to improve documentation and filing" granted the clinic approval for another 12 months. There was a similar investigation in 1993, with no result.

There were no inspections of the clinic over the next 16 years. The health department received multiple complaints about the clinic, including one from a doctor who said that his patients "were becoming infected with sexually transmitted diseases at Gosnellís clinic when they had abortions there."

The 2009 clinic death of 41-year-old Karnamaya Mongar, a Nepalese refugee who had recently arrived in the United States, did not trigger an investigation, either. Mongar died while undergoing an abortion by Gosnell."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
katie

Tacoma, WA

#316559 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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You have no hope of seeing your daughter again?
My daughter's energy is still strong.

Out of everything I wrote, what makes you think to ask that type of question? It's completely out of context.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#316560 Nov 25, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't see Bitner say "execute the innocent ones".
Unfortunately, that happens with the death penalty, which she is in favor of.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#316561 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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My daughter's energy is still strong.
Out of everything I wrote, what makes you think to ask that type of question? It's completely out of context.
She's a sadist Katie.

She gets her jollies by asking bereaved women questions like that one - probably because she anticipates they will cause us renewed grief.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#316562 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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My daughter's energy is still strong.
Out of everything I wrote, what makes you think to ask that type of question? It's completely out of context.
It was you last paragraph.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#316563 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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According to this report, am not sure it would have made any difference. The way I see it, the Health Department was extremely negligent in its monitoring and oversight of Gosnell's "clinic".
"When the clinic was first inspected in 1979, it had a medical director on staff who was a certified obstetrician/gynecologist. The certificate for approval after that inspection expired in December 1980, but the next "documented site review was not conducted until August 1989."
By then, Gosnell was the only doctor affiliated with the clinic. At that investigation, the state health department "noted several violations of Pennsylvania abortion regulations" but "based on mere promises to improve documentation and filing" granted the clinic approval for another 12 months. There was a similar investigation in 1993, with no result.There were no inspections of the clinic over the next 16 years. The health department received multiple complaints about the clinic, including one from a doctor who said that his patients "were becoming infected with sexually transmitted diseases at Gosnellís clinic when they had abortions there."
The 2009 clinic death of 41-year-old Karnamaya Mongar, a Nepalese refugee who had recently arrived in the United States, did not trigger an investigation, either. Mongar died while undergoing an abortion by Gosnell."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
Is there a requirement that the abortionist be an OB/GYN?
Did he have to have admittance to any hosp?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#316564 Nov 25, 2013
If you heteros could get past vaginal/penile penetration as the only "real" sex, you could have great times with no pregnancy.
Ink wrote:
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It is a mantra on here that women should have 'healthy sex lives' and shouldn't be forced to give birth to the resulting child.
How are you ladies going to have a 'healthy sex life' if all the guys keep it in their pants?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#316565 Nov 25, 2013
katie wrote:
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My daughter's energy is still strong.
Out of everything I wrote, what makes you think to ask that type of question? It's completely out of context.
Sorry if I offended you. I didn't see anything to respond to except your last paragraph that seemed kind of hopeless. I can see that you don't want to answer. That's fine.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#316566 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Unfortunately, that happens with the death penalty, which she is in favor of.
You quoted me as saying something I didn't say. The fact is, you lied.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#316567 Nov 25, 2013
This country has been fundamentally changed--or said to be--many times in history. You people sound like the people who railed against social security when it was implemented.

That we CAN change is what makes us the greatest country on earth. We can allow individual rights and try to care for our poor and disadvantaged.
Ink wrote:
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Yes an arrogant socialist who wants to fundamentally change the greatest country in the world. Or at least it was until he got his hands on it.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#316569 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Is there a requirement that the abortionist be an OB/GYN?
Did he have to have admittance to any hosp?
You don't know your own state's requirements for abortion, or that Gosnell WAS licensed? Why bother to debate when you don't know what you're talking about?
katie

Tacoma, WA

#316570 Nov 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Sorry if I offended you. I didn't see anything to respond to except your last paragraph that seemed kind of hopeless. I can see that you don't want to answer. That's fine.
LOL You think the last paragraph was anything more than general comments? Maybe sorta aimed at my ex's early demise and the mess he left me to clean up, but still more general in tone than the previous paragraphs specifically about my daughter.

Why would I be offended? Your question was out of context to what I wrote. That's not a reflection on me or my writing.

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