Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 311496 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ocean56

AOL

#315498 Nov 12, 2013
SassyJM wrote:
"Just because someone wronged you in life doesn't mean that the rest of us married couples give up our "freedom" or become a "guys UNPAID housekeeper". We as married couples become ONE. We still maintain our individuality but we do things as a couple. When we become moms, our priorities shift but it doesn't mean that we lose our identity. In fact, in a marriage, that love grows."

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Oh PLEASE. Nobody wronged me at all, despite your idiotic claims to the contrary. You’re just pissed that I’m not buying the rosy picture of “traditional marriage/motherhood” you keep trying to sell. Too bad.

To me, the whole faith-based traditional marriage package is the very definition of misery for a woman, which is why I’d never enter into such a toxic marital arrangement. I would rather spend the rest of my days as a single, free, independent woman enjoying life than spend one minute as a “traditional housewife” of the 1950’s-1960’s and hating every second of domestic servitude. Obviously you have a big problem with anyone who criticizes “traditional marriage.” Tough.
Gtown71

United States

#315499 Nov 12, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
Oh...and good morning.
Gtown, what do you think of the obscenity that has become Christmas? A friend of mine says we should just call it "Retail Day". Cancel all other holidays, just celebrate "Retail Day", and the whole year can be dedicated to Retail Day shopping.
Even as an atheist I'm horrified at the complete bastardization of a holiday that at the very least is a good day of rest and relaxation with friends and family.
I am so disgusted at this new practice of opening stores on Thanksgiving evening.
I agree with all the christmas mess.

They now put out christmas decorations with Halloween decorations.

I remember when nothing was open for a day or so, but now you're right, a lot of stores are open Thanksgiving night, with sales starting at midnight.

I would say very few people even have a clue what they celebrate.

Another one of man's traditions.

People do have free will, as to what they believe, but when one is truly saved, thank God they are saved from themselves.

I've been my biggest problem in life.

Many scream about leaving christ in christmas, but for all the wrong reasons.

It's hard to change a persons core values.
if not impossible.

Kinda funny how much time we spend trying to change others, when we cannot even change ourselves.:)

Happy Holidays. Lol
Ocean56

AOL

#315500 Nov 12, 2013
SassyJM wrote:
Your opinion is irrelevent. Can't you disagree with someone without calling them liars? She is mocking God/Christ. She does it constantly. She is angry as are you.

Bottom line,someone might disagree with God/Christ or be confused,but they don't need to exhibit such disrespect and intolerance towards another beliefs.

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I hate to break it to you, sASSy (not really), but no religious beliefs are protected from
verbal criticism or even ridicule. Which means a person can “mock God/Christ” as much as that person wants to. Whether YOU approve of that poster’s words or not is irrelevant.

The one who comes across as angry here is YOU, because you can’t deal with the fact that no one has to kiss your...um...ring because you have religious views. Again, too bad.
Ocean56

AOL

#315501 Nov 12, 2013
SassyJM wrote:
Nobody is shocked to hear that people like you have rejected God. Jesus walked the earth,ate with his friends,performed miracles for them,and they still rejected him at the end of the day.
What I do think is sad is people like you who blame God for your hurts from other people. It's typical and predictable. It's like people embrace their free-will choices,but don't care about the consequences that evil or just bad choices create. THEN,they blame God when all hell breaks loose. That's not fair.

Also,what I find sad is when people like you or,aged or Bitler(etc)reject God/the RCC/etc.. when they didn't truly understand it. They were misled or just brought up with a wishy wash version(if that)of it. Then,when none of it makes sense,they reject it. Can't say that I blame them at that point. I've seen ALOT of that scenerio. It's tragic really.

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Ah, the standard nonsense from militant religionists who can’t accept the fact that people CAN reject the toxic baggage of gods, religions and churches and aren’t civilly or criminally penalized for doing so. Why am I not surprised. I’ve read and heard it so many times from people like you that I lost count ages ago.

By the way, I understand the RCC and its oppressive position against women all too well; that’s why I rejected it. As far as I’M concerned, any religion or church that forbids all forms of reliable contraception even to PREVENT unwanted pregnancy is most certainly treating women as second-class citizens and mindless baby factories. IMO such a church doesn’t deserve respect. It deserves nothing but contempt, which is all the RCC and other such churches will ever get from me. It’s wonderful how much freedom a woman has when she isn’t mentally chained by a regressive and oppressive religious institution.
Ocean56

AOL

#315502 Nov 12, 2013
SassyJM wrote:
Do me a favor and stop speaking for ALL women. Normal,sane,moral women don't have a thought in their mind regarding killing their child. Pro-abort women decide if their child is worthy of life or death at their hands but PLEASE don't lump us together. It's insulting.

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No one here has to do YOU any favors, sASSy. You’re just not that important. FTR I don’t
consider you to be “normal, sane, or normal” either.
Ocean56

AOL

#315503 Nov 12, 2013
SassyJM wrote:
Abortion is not a "right" that is based personal belief no matter how much you like to think that it is. It(the human life inside of you)is NOT you. It is your offspring. You may be a control freak who likes to victimize your child in or out of the womb,sorely based on the fact that you have power of that vulnerable child. That's not your "right" based on your personal belief. It's a selfish *act*,a crime against humanity. Some other selfish control freak(s) made the act legal but it is what it is. You're discriminating against your own child based on his/her temporary location.

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Abortion IS a right for any woman who decides she doesn’t want to be pregnant sASSy, no matter how many times you claim otherwise. Although the Republican anti-choice politicians in states like Texas, Kansas, New Mexico and others are pushing through draconian legislation that make it even harder on women to get access to abortion or even contraception.

IMO you are an anti-choice control freak who wants to take away a woman’s basic right to decide for HERSELF whether or not she wants to continue a pregnancy, simply because YOU don’t like the fact that some women don’t want to be pregnant. Despite the anti-choice crowd’s repeated efforts to guilt women into believing your “abortion is murder” ideology, prochoice women and men still aren’t buying it. And I really think THAT makes you angry, the fact that you can’t force your personal beliefs onto all women by making those beliefs into law. Good.
Ocean56

AOL

#315506 Nov 12, 2013
SassyJM wrote:
I’ve actually have read a few. It's sad. It's a tragedy that women are faced with such anti-human tactics because they can't be bothered mothering their child or adopting him/her out.

The worst are the young girls who are coerced/forced by parents to abort or by a bf when they are so scared,desperate and vulnerable. I feel so sorry that nobody cares about her. They are the saddest stories to hear about ESPECIALLY in person.

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Yeah, right.@@ I think what’s really sad for you is knowing there are girls and women whose only regret is that they GOT pregnant in the first place. They are just profoundly relieved that they don’t have to gestate a pregnancy they didn’t want to begin with. You are aware that ALL contraceptive methods can and DO fail sometimes, aren’t you?

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#315507 Nov 12, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, there are those claiming to be liberals that take a life and trash it.......as long as it's not them.
How's the weather?@@
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#315508 Nov 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with all the christmas mess.
They now put out christmas decorations with Halloween decorations.
I remember when nothing was open for a day or so, but now you're right, a lot of stores are open Thanksgiving night, with sales starting at midnight.
I would say very few people even have a clue what they celebrate.
Another one of man's traditions.
People do have free will, as to what they believe, but when one is truly saved, thank God they are saved from themselves.
I've been my biggest problem in life.
Many scream about leaving christ in christmas, but for all the wrong reasons.
It's hard to change a persons core values.
if not impossible.
Kinda funny how much time we spend trying to change others, when we cannot even change ourselves.:)
Happy Holidays. Lol
Christmas the best time to shop for yourself.
Buy what you need while it is on sale.

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#315509 Nov 12, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
SassyJM wrote:
I’ve actually have read a few. It's sad. It's a tragedy that women are faced with such anti-human tactics because they can't be bothered mothering their child or adopting him/her out.
The worst are the young girls who are coerced/forced by parents to abort or by a bf when they are so scared,desperate and vulnerable. I feel so sorry that nobody cares about her. They are the saddest stories to hear about ESPECIALLY in person.
**********
Yeah, right.@@ I think what’s really sad for you is knowing there are girls and women whose only regret is that they GOT pregnant in the first place. They are just profoundly relieved that they don’t have to gestate a pregnancy they didn’t want to begin with. You are aware that ALL contraceptive methods can and DO fail sometimes, aren’t you?
Why would they regret the pregnancy? The fetus is the one with the regrets for being conceived by a mother who thinks only of herself and not her child. She has every right to keep her knees together before ever getting pregnant. Her rights should end when those rights concern another living, breathing person inside her. You liberal phonies are all the same. Proclaim your hate for war and the killing of "innocent" life but don't blink an eye for the millions upon millions of lives snuffed out by ones own mother.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#315510 Nov 12, 2013
How I See It wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would they regret the pregnancy? The fetus is the one with the regrets for being conceived by a mother who thinks only of herself and not her child. She has every right to keep her knees together before ever getting pregnant. Her rights should end when those rights concern another living, breathing person inside her. You liberal phonies are all the same. Proclaim your hate for war and the killing of "innocent" life but don't blink an eye for the millions upon millions of lives snuffed out by ones own mother.
A fetus isn't capable of regret. The guy has every right to keep his penis in his pants too and therefore he should lose his rights also. You agree?
Statistically, the majority of abortions performed are married women with a child/ren already. How do you propose she lose her rights and the husband doesn't or they both do? How exactly is that going to work in this Good Ol' US of A?
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#315511 Nov 12, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Taking a life is evil. Those that take a life through abortion are no different than some one that kills someone during a robbery or drive by.
So, the death penalty is evil?
Killing a spider is evil?
Bombing is evil?

I guess your god is evil for killing 1 in 5 pregnancies before they come to term.

Let us know when you're cabable of making a rational argument.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#315512 Nov 12, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Mary was only a virgin before Christ was born.

What made mary holy? She was saved by the same Guy I was. It just so happened that Guy was her Son.
:)
Actually the bible refers to Mary as a young woman.

Oh, and you need to read a book or two about what makes something holy. Maybe you'll learn something!? I highly recommend:
"the idea of the holy" by Rudolf Otto
"the sacred and the profane" by mircea eluade
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#315513 Nov 12, 2013
Eliade
katie

Spanaway, WA

#315514 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Terminology is all they have to fight over because in their hearts they know it is somebody's child/baby waiting to be born. Already a family member, a sister, brother, son, or daughter. Most times already loved and eagerly anticipated. There is no difference between a wanted chld and an unwanted child except that the unloving mother will have it killed before birth.
"There is no difference between a wanted chld and an unwanted child except that the unloving mother will have it killed before birth."

Why would you assume/presume such a thing? Do you believe God to be unloving when spontaneous abortion occurs? Of course not. So *why* would you believe a woman facing unwanted/unhealthy pregnancy is unloving if she chooses to abort that pregnancy?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#315515 Nov 12, 2013
How I See It wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would they regret the pregnancy? The fetus is the one with the regrets for being conceived by a mother who thinks only of herself and not her child. She has every right to keep her knees together before ever getting pregnant. Her rights should end when those rights concern another living, breathing person inside her. You liberal phonies are all the same. Proclaim your hate for war and the killing of "innocent" life but don't blink an eye for the millions upon millions of lives snuffed out by ones own mother.
Fetuses don't breathe.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#315516 Nov 12, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Taking a life is evil. Those that take a life through abortion are no different than some one that kills someone during a robbery or drive by.
As ever, I support your right to speak your opinion.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#315517 Nov 12, 2013
How I See It wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would they regret the pregnancy? The fetus is the one with the regrets for being conceived by a mother who thinks only of herself and not her child. She has every right to keep her knees together before ever getting pregnant. Her rights should end when those rights concern another living, breathing person inside her. You liberal phonies are all the same. Proclaim your hate for war and the killing of "innocent" life but don't blink an eye for the millions upon millions of lives snuffed out by ones own mother.
Wow...what?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#315520 Nov 12, 2013
John-K wrote:
<quoted text>
That was an interesting reply "Ink."
It was direct, honest, and revelatory.
Thank you.
The generally accepted perception of you has been of someone who takes every word of the New Testament as pure, unadulterated Truth, but does not feel the same way about the Old Testament.
This has, unsurprisingly, created an impression of someone who wants to "cherry-pick" what they choose to believe as inarguable "Truth," especially when it comes down to the moral decisions regarding the subject of abortion.
I also happen to think the "lost" Gospels are fascinating.
I especially like comparing the "Gospel according to Judas" with the Greek writer Nikos Kazantzakis's novel, "The Last Temptation of Christ."
Since the book was written not too long after that "Gospel" was discovered, I can't help but wonder just how much that remnant of the Dead Sea Scrolls influenced the writer's "vision."
Have you read any of Elaine Pagels works?
Her books, "The Gnostic Gospels," "The Origin of Satan," and "Revelation," are quite informative--and good reads to boot!
To touch on abortion only briefly, I have said that I believe the Ten Commandments were God given and are still relevant if you are a believer. The 'thou shalt not murder or kill unjustly' for me, covers abortion since an unborn child is refered to as a child in all the old writings and my understanding is that God knows us before birth. Even science says that at conception a whole new unique individual is formed. I know abortion is legal and that women have a choice. I also understand that my impression of God and the Bible can be quite different from someone looking to justify abortion.

I haven't read the books you mentioned but i am reading "Jesus, an historian's review of the gospels" by Michael Grant. He goes into detail about what is most likely factual and what might be factual but colored to suit the writer's point of view or audience.

I need to check more into the Judas Gospel but I understand the drift. I think the gospel of Peter is insightful and I can understand why it wasn't included in the Canon.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#315521 Nov 12, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a physical shell, alive but without Spirit, a blank slate.
How can you be so sure?

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