Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 319811 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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IRYW

Allentown, PA

#294096 Apr 28, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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You mean like, if you can't show me proof of God, then He's not real.
Something like that. The claim isn't that no gods exist or could exist. It is that despite your claims, no evidence has ever been provided for any of the thousands of gods imagined by man. Evidence means empirical, testable evidence, not your anecdotal stories.
Gtown71 wrote:
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Science makes educated geusses after looking at all the facts and data they have.
That is barely the beginning of science. Observations lead to hypotheses (educated guesses). Predictions are made and tested. If the results support the hypothesis, the data is published in peer reviewed journals where other scientists try as hard as possible to falsify your data. Only after rigorous and repeated testing is a hypothesis accepted as valid; with enough data and tests over time a theory is formed.
Gtown71 wrote:
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I do the same thing...
No, you stop at the guess or belief. There is no empirical evidence to share with others, there are no controlled tests in the lab, there is no data to support your claim.
Gtown71 wrote:
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What I was before the night I.met God, and after -I truly believe there is a God :)
I know you believe that. And I cannot disprove there isn't one. I can't prove leprechauns don't exist. I can't prove the universe wasn't created last Thursday by the FSM who implanted false memories in all our brains to make it seem older. Nor do I question whether you had a transformative experience. I've had them. Billions of others have. Only some attribute them to your god. Many others have other gods they attribute them to. I attribute those experiences to the normal workings of the human brain, which, by the way, is the only conclusion that can be tested in the lab. And it has been tested in the lab. We know the brain is capable of deluding itself; so I don't doubt you are serious, I just know you cannot possibly KNOW there is a god in any sense of the work 'know' having value.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#294097 Apr 28, 2013
IRYW wrote:
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I had to stop in for one last peek before I take a long break from topix. Rosesz is a strange one. She appears to want to be reasonable but can't let go of certain intrenched positions. Have fun.
You have fun, too!!
Katie

Auburn, WA

#294098 Apr 28, 2013
Chick Brilliance Returns wrote:
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Good luck with that. Don't be distracted by whatever red herring or straw man she issues instead of answering your question. ;)
LOL She'll just criticize in her usual way.
Or ignore it altogether. 4215
Gtown71

United States

#294099 Apr 28, 2013
IRYW wrote:
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Something like that. The claim isn't that no gods exist or could exist. It is that despite your claims, no evidence has ever been provided for any of the thousands of gods imagined by man. Evidence means empirical, testable evidence, not your anecdotal stories.
<quoted text>
That is barely the beginning of science. Observations lead to hypotheses (educated guesses). Predictions are made and tested. If the results support the hypothesis, the data is published in peer reviewed journals where other scientists try as hard as possible to falsify your data. Only after rigorous and repeated testing is a hypothesis accepted as valid; with enough data and tests over time a theory is formed.
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No, you stop at the guess or belief. There is no empirical evidence to share with others, there are no controlled tests in the lab, there is no data to support your claim.
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I know you believe that. And I cannot disprove there isn't one. I can't prove leprechauns don't exist. I can't prove the universe wasn't created last Thursday by the FSM who implanted false memories in all our brains to make it seem older. Nor do I question whether you had a transformative experience. I've had them. Billions of others have. Only some attribute them to your god. Many others have other gods they attribute them to. I attribute those experiences to the normal workings of the human brain, which, by the way, is the only conclusion that can be tested in the lab. And it has been tested in the lab. We know the brain is capable of deluding itself; so I don't doubt you are serious, I just know you cannot possibly KNOW there is a god in any sense of the work 'know' having value.
After telling my conversion story to a man once, he told me what happened to me was great, but I didn't have to get all religious about it.

I truly thought about what he said, but was kept reminded that the "thing " that woke me up in the first place was God, and after that night, I had a deep desire to read a bible and watch hours and hours for days and weeks of preaching????
Before that night I wanted zero, zip, NOTHING to do with God or a bible.

Plus my God put in His word, that one must accept Him by faith, not proof.

He's God and that's how He chose to set it up.

Would you agree if there was a God, that that God can do as He wills?
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#294100 Apr 28, 2013
Chick Brilliance Returns wrote:
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Whats worse is that she said ending abortion would lower UNPLANNED PREGNANCY, not just abortion. Simply stupid claim. High numbers of unplanned pregnancies BEFORE ROE were the reason PP was founded in the first place. Same with fighting to make abortion legal. Women were abortion those pregnancies in unsafe conditions after it was made totally illegal in the US. Women did not demand these things because every freaking pregnancy was planned and wanted BEFORE Roe. smh. Rose does not think. She just regurgitates nonsense.
Hello Chicky.one thinv is when Pp started and I ghought it ws great..its main purpose was family planning..using things likd BC pills which were nes at thr time
I know from your post you get frustrated because I sm stubborn..sorry for the frustration.
However..if you had truly understood my long post on the last page you would ..to bd fair..admit that I am not just regurgitating. I was there. I have my own experiences and common sense. I do not have to read off of anyone elses ideas.

If you do not see that..i cannot help that. If you disagree with md..which you do..at least grant that I am sincere..and not just spouting from some agenda.

I know Roe is law. I along with Rie am sorry it hapoened. Unfortunately all I can do is hope and pray that with education..bc..and maybe a change in climate..that thd njmbers go down..and some wlmen CHOOSE to save their offspring or use messures to be safe..
Peace
IRYW

Allentown, PA

#294101 Apr 28, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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After telling my conversion story to a man once, he told me what happened to me was great, but I didn't have to get all religious about it.
I truly thought about what he said, but was kept reminded that the "thing " that woke me up in the first place was God,
You have no idea what woke you up. You concluded it was 'god' because you couldn't think of any other reason. This is called the argument from ignorance (if you can't think of another explanation, god did it). It is a common logical fallacy.
Gtown71 wrote:
<, and after that night, I had a deep desire to read a bible and watch hours and hours for days and weeks of preaching????
YOu wanted to read the bible because you are in a mostly christian country. Had this happened in the middle east you would have wanted the koran. Obviously you were searching for something missing in your life if you suddenly wanted to find religion.
Gtown71 wrote:
<,Before that night I wanted zero, zip, NOTHING to do with God or a bible.
Consciously or subconsciously?
Gtown71 wrote:
<,Plus my God put in His word, that one must accept Him by faith, not proof.
Circular reasoning. Begging the question. You assume the bible is the word of 'god' and that god must exist because the bible says so. Do you understand how insane this sort of thinking is?
Gtown71 wrote:
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Would you agree if there was a God, that that God can do as He wills?
Not at all. There could be a god that has limited powers and that made the universe by accident. There could be a god that has huge powers and no control over them. There could be what you call a god that is not conscious but causes things by its nature. Just a few of many possibilities.

Final post; got to go.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#294102 Apr 28, 2013
IRYW wrote:
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I had to stop in for one last peek before I take a long break from topix. Rosesz is a strange one. She appears to want to be reasonable but can't let go of certain intrenched positions. Have fun.
I do sppreciate your post. I hope you read my last long post to playa as to why I feel as I do.
And I know I am entrenched or as chicky says stubborn. I pkead guilty.

If you read..you can understand why. It is faith based but even more personal.. as I said I thank God there was no Roe when I was in troubke. At 16 I was desperate and cannot say what I would have done for sure. I hope I still would have valued my sons life..but I was a stupid kid.

But all I need to do to know I was right is look at my son..his wife and my grandchild..and being reunited was the greatest miracle God could have given me. I would be spitting it in His face to support elective abortion in any way. So all the arguments in the world are not going to change my mind..
IRYW

Allentown, PA

#294103 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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I do sppreciate your post. I hope you read my last long post to playa as to why I feel as I do.
And I know I am entrenched or as chicky says stubborn. I pkead guilty..
Ok the REAL final post deserves to go to you. Yes, you are stubborn and entrenched.
rosesz wrote:
If you read..you can understand why. It is faith based but even more personal.. as I said I thank God there was no Roe when I was in troubke. At 16 I was desperate and cannot say what I would have done for sure. I hope I still would have valued my sons life..but I was a stupid kid..
It may be personal but it is not unique. There are over 6 billion people on the planet. Pregnancy and birth aren't miracles. They are more like a plague to the planet.......
rosesz wrote:
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But all I need to do to know I was right is look at my son..his wife and my grandchild...
Glad you feel that way. Why do you demand that other women, who are desperate not to have a child, cave in to your wishes?
rosesz wrote:
......was the greatest miracle God could have given me..
You also need to understand that your belief in a god has nothing to do with the legal issues of Roe. There is no evidence for a god so the only variables are legal ones. Get over it. Are you insisting that pregnant atheists should adopt your position on a god?
rosesz wrote:
... I would be spitting it in His face to support elective abortion in any way..
How do you know? Even if there was a god, you have categorically no way to know what it wants. Maybe it wants unwanted fetuses to be aborted.
rosesz wrote:
... So all the arguments in the world are not going to change my mind..
And this is really the only statement that matters. This is why I call you the American Taliban. In a world where there is constant change, new information that is discovered, new inventions and procedures, you are sure that you alone have a lock on permanent truth that could not possibly change, no matter what the evidence. In any other arena than religion, this qualifies for commitment to a mental institution. I'm 100% serious.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#294104 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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I do sppreciate your post. I hope you read my last long post to playa as to why I feel as I do.
And I know I am entrenched or as chicky says stubborn. I pkead guilty.
If you read..you can understand why. It is faith based but even more personal.. as I said I thank God there was no Roe when I was in troubke. At 16 I was desperate and cannot say what I would have done for sure. I hope I still would have valued my sons life..but I was a stupid kid.
But all I need to do to know I was right is look at my son..his wife and my grandchild..and being reunited was the greatest miracle God could have given me. I would be spitting it in His face to support elective abortion in any way. So all the arguments in the world are not going to change my mind..
Please explain why you believe allowing women to make their own decisions regarding their own unintended pregnancies would be spitting in your son's face?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#294105 Apr 28, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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How do you spell irony?
Since you spelled it, why are you asking moron?
Since I could've wrote this about you, but for sure your last statement.[/QUOTE

Since I'm not doing any bullshit religous preaching, you're lying.

Again. And as usual.

So I'll repeat the FACTS - you dont know shit. You know what you BELIEVE and that's fine for YOU, but it and your version of g-d means shit to the rest of us.

[QUOTE]it is not a fact, it is what YOU believe.
Actually son, it IS a fact. Nobody gives two shits
about your incessent proselytizing, and COMPLETE garbage claims that your version of "faiths" way is the ONLY way.

The FACT is its not. There's a lot of way's to G-d, and He doesn't give a damn if we believe in your jebus or not. Your FAITH is YOURS and yours alone. Period.
Not harrasing anyone, they and YOU may skip right over anything I post.
Take care :)
Why should I skip over it? I personally prefer to call you out on your hypocracy and ignorance.

And yes Gtown, it IS harassment when you've been asked, both politely and not so politely to tone down the religious rhetoric, because its not only repetitious and borning, but because it dosen't PERTAIN to most of us. You trying to shove your version of "faith" down other's throats - when you've been REPEATEDLY told we dont care what your religous views are, is harassment.

You are certainly free to speak your mind, over and over ad nauseum if you so choose. However, we are free to call you out for the idiot you are.

In addition, you have ZERO respect for other's beliefs - and that shows with your continued preaching to those that dont give a shit.

Your true colors show here regularly, and your phony piousness is a BIG part of why nobody takes your stupid ass seriously.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#294106 Apr 28, 2013
or i guess god's face. why do you believe that?

you are not every woman and do not have the experiences of every woman. why is allowing them the freedom to make their own decisions so wrong, in your opinion?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#294107 Apr 28, 2013
Pink for Ryanna wrote:
<quoted text>You are prodeath. Don't bother coming back anywhere until you have a change of heart. People like you are toxic. Selfish and arrogance is never wanted in a peaceful,sane environment.
Respect life. Respect your fellow human on and out of the womb. You're just another angry,bitter e il person who thinks that YOUR life is worthy of respect but you seem to think others are at your disposal.
Pathetic.
Hello Skankdawg. Did you think you were fooling anyone?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#294108 Apr 28, 2013
Demonstrate ignoramce wrote:
<quoted text>Your child was precious and worthy but others aren't be wise their mom might not want them? What a hypocrite you are to advocate killing.
Well, at least you picked an appropriate name for yourself for a change. You certainly DO demonstrate "ignoramce" here every time you post. Cowardly AND stupid. What a combo.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#294110 Apr 28, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
I'd like to offer a general thank-you to all those who posted to me about the loss of my son. You folks are very kind, and I greatly appreciate your thoughtfulness. CPeter, you are correct in that he wouldn't want me to be sad...but when it comes on, I have to feel it fully, or it would fester inside me and he wouldn't want that either.
And thanks also, for listening - I don't talk about it here very often, because I don't really like sharing my pain with people who didn't know him - but he was a large part of my world, and the hole he left behind is vast and often terrible. Sometimes talking about it helps, if only a little.
I hope everyone has a lovely day!
Thank you sincerely for sharing it. Its hard to share here sometimes, because too often an idiot will try to use it as a weapon against you, but you're a brave person, and I'm proud to have met you!
Gtown71

United States

#294111 Apr 28, 2013
IRYW wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no idea what woke you up. You concluded it was 'god' because you couldn't think of any other reason. This is called the argument from ignorance (if you can't think of another explanation, god did it). It is a common logical fallacy.
<quoted text>
YOu wanted to read the bible because you are in a mostly christian country. Had this happened in the middle east you would have wanted the koran. Obviously you were searching for something missing in your life if you suddenly wanted to find religion.
<quoted text>
Consciously or subconsciously?
<quoted text>
Circular reasoning. Begging the question. You assume the bible is the word of 'god' and that god must exist because the bible says so. Do you understand how insane this sort of thinking is?
<quoted text>
Not at all. There could be a god that has limited powers and that made the universe by accident. There could be a god that has huge powers and no control over them. There could be what you call a god that is not conscious but causes things by its nature. Just a few of many possibilities.
Final post; got to go.
Where ever you go I wish you well, but in case others read this - the reason I knew it was God that woke me up that night was well becouse He has a way of letting you know it is Him.
I was "in my mind " speaking to Him very clearly. I was not calling on the name of Jesus, but God sees our heart, and overlooks our proper terms. People don't do either.

I can't tell you what would've happened had I been in iraq, or north korea, and can only tell you what happened to me.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#294112 Apr 28, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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God doesn't "punish " people just becouse He can, if He wanted to rake folks into Hell based on how "good " or "bad " they were -He could've done it by now. Starting with ME
what else is He to do with a dead soul?
We have loved ones who die. No.matter how much we loved them, we don't dress them up and put them on our couch, and take them with us. We bury them.
The price of SIN is extremely high. It cost God much, and made offer to us for free.
What you call good, and what God calls good, is far different.
You seem to be a very "good" person, but would even you be willng to stand on a world stage, around all of your family and friends and have every deed and thought you have ever had opened up in front of them?
God so loved the world, that He gave His only Begotten Son, that "whosoever" shall believe in Him shall be saved.
1. God put in every person the need for Him.
Although we try and fill that spot with everything from sex, drugs, music, sports, you name it. The worst one of all "religion"
A religious person can be the hardest to be saved. They think they "do" enough.
It is not what you "do" it is who you are.
Bad people go to Heaven.
Good people go to Hell.
God must be dealing with a person, before they get saved.
This is the mystery of God.
The wind blows where it wills, and no one knows where it came from or where it goes, but they do know THAT IT TOUCHED THEM as it came by.:)
"It is not what you "do" it is who you are."

According to your belief we are created by God, so God made us who we are, including the atheists. And God made serial killers and pedophiles who they are, and the mentally ill, and the gay people, etc. All made by God, and will fail miserably in God's eyes.
Gtown71

United States

#294113 Apr 28, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Since you spelled it, why are you asking moron?
<quoted text>
Actually son, it IS a fact. Nobody gives two shits
about your incessent proselytizing, and COMPLETE garbage claims that your version of "faiths" way is the ONLY way.
The FACT is its not. There's a lot of way's to G-d, and He doesn't give a damn if we believe in your jebus or not. Your FAITH is YOURS and yours alone. Period.
<quoted text>
Why should I skip over it? I personally prefer to call you out on your hypocracy and ignorance.
And yes Gtown, it IS harassment when you've been asked, both politely and not so politely to tone down the religious rhetoric, because its not only repetitious and borning, but because it dosen't PERTAIN to most of us. You trying to shove your version of "faith" down other's throats - when you've been REPEATEDLY told we dont care what your religous views are, is harassment.
You are certainly free to speak your mind, over and over ad nauseum if you so choose. However, we are free to call you out for the idiot you are.
In addition, you have ZERO respect for other's beliefs - and that shows with your continued preaching to those that dont give a shit.
Your true colors show here regularly, and your phony piousness is a BIG part of why nobody takes your stupid ass seriously.
I'm the big arrogant phony who has no respect for others, yet you still speak for all others on this post. And do so as a fact, well the fact is you're wrong.

I'm sure many get sick and tired of your bulldog ways, but it is a public forum. You may bark on.:)

I respect other views.
I also feel many like you are dead wrong.

My Jebus, didn't used to mean one thing to me either foo, if you payed attention, but now He is my everything.

Different paths may work, if you're climbing a mountain, but there is only one way to Heaven "Christ Jesus "

:)

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#294114 Apr 28, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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So those who comment on here are lazy?
Did you miss the part about how a guy pulled a gun on me one night?
Plus -how do you know what "christ like " means?
Just the ones that try to save souls of non believers via the internet. I guess I did miss the part about the guy who pulled a gun on you but I really don't see what that has to do with saving anothers soul. You always make it all about you, I cheated, I was a pro-abort, I had a gun pulled on me, I found my dads dead body, my mom was a whore. It's a turn off.
Gtown71

United States

#294115 Apr 28, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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"It is not what you "do" it is who you are."
According to your belief we are created by God, so God made us who we are, including the atheists. And God made serial killers and pedophiles who they are, and the mentally ill, and the gay people, etc. All made by God, and will fail miserably in God's eyes.
God would never create a person just to condemn them.

Sin entered the world by one man "adam", and we all have adams blood in our veins.
A way of escape was made by one man "Jesus Christ " the secound adam.
All those who put their faith and trust in Him shall be saved.

God does things decent and in order.

Satan is god of this world.

There are things thay will happen to fullfill prophecy.
God keeps His promises /we don't
God always tells truth /we may lie
God never cheats /we might

God offered a perfect gift, He put in every soul the need for Him.

If we die in our sins and miss Heaven, we do so over His Sons dead body.
feces for jesus

Bellmore, NY

#294116 Apr 28, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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To be clear ..you are not saying abortion is natural but the sex act that makes a woman pregnant?
Oh, the irony!!!!!!

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