Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision. Full Story
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#293227 Apr 24, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>No.
The State is acting in the interests of the State.
Born children become taxpayers.
Fetuses will never pay taxes.
What is the states interest in preventing a woman from aborting an unborn child?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#293228 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Isn't the state acting in the interest of the fetus?
No.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#293229 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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No it is women determined to have have their viable babies exterminated who keep people like Gosnell in business.
Riiight, because some pregnant women seeking abortion don't have to face idiotic regulations and other nonsensical hurdles keeping them having a legal, safe abortion early on in their unwanted pregnancies.

Leave it to you to willingly, willfully, believe women seek to abort for the hell of it.
Gtown71

United States

#293230 Apr 24, 2013
Katie wrote:
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No, the number is neither staggering nor epic. There are almost 316 million people in America. Your number, roughly 3500, is what, roughly one percent, a tenth of a percent, of the total population?
Abortion rates have continued to decline, even during the recession when usually the numbers go up.
What's not a good thing is failing to recognize not every pregnancy is wanted or healthy. So much can go wrong during pregnancy, during labor and delivery. Women still die from childbirth. Women still get horrendously torn up during delivery. Yes, it still happens in America, but nobody's protesting it outside hospitals.
What matters is after babies are born. But that's the time most fundies walk away. They smile and pat themselves on the back for helping to provide diapers and used baby clothes... but sure scream and yell about welfare queens living on the dole spreading their legs to make more babies.
What a nice little double-standard, eh? Every baby born but to hell with what kind of life it will live.
I get it!!! I truly do!!! There is no easy answer. We are sinful people, we Will do sinful things. Someone must pay for our choices. I am not a woman, but is it normal to want the life inside you gone at any cost? It must mean the sex it took to produce it was just as empty as the womb post abortion /dnc??? I refer back to my first statement -we are sinners /we Will sin.
It doesn't fit in the evolution scale, but thanks be to God for grace and mercy, to all and any who wish to have it.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#293231 Apr 24, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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3500 in how much time. The CDC States 800 thou for 2008 . I tried to find an unbiased site. Found it on wikipedia..I know some sites slant.
A day. Yes, there are different figures out there. That figure he gave may be a little high. It really doesn't make any difference to my point, though.

It's still a matter of one woman making her own decision about one pregnancy, her own.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#293232 Apr 24, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Gosnell was not - in general - doing legal abortions. Not much was legal that was going on in his clinic.
Stop being an ass and trying to compare the murderer Gosnell with actual health clinics that are well regulated and operating well within the limits of the law Inkstain.
I see you're back to make your usual fool of yourself. Idiot.
He was only doing what his patients wanted. These women made the decision to abort their babies and he complied.f these women [thousands] didn't want to be rid of their children, he wouldn't be in business, would he?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#293233 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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What is the states interest in preventing a woman from aborting an unborn child?
That would depend on the state. Why don't you write to them all and ask them?

The point is, that it's the STATES that have the civil rights in this instance, not the fetus.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#293234 Apr 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I get it!!! I truly do!!! There is no easy answer. We are sinful people, we Will do sinful things. Someone must pay for our choices. I am not a woman, but is it normal to want the life inside you gone at any cost? It must mean the sex it took to produce it was just as empty as the womb post abortion /dnc??? I refer back to my first statement -we are sinners /we Will sin.
It doesn't fit in the evolution scale, but thanks be to God for grace and mercy, to all and any who wish to have it.
Your concept of sin is only relevant to you.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#293235 Apr 24, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Riiight, because some pregnant women seeking abortion don't have to face idiotic regulations and other nonsensical hurdles keeping them having a legal, safe abortion early on in their unwanted pregnancies.
Leave it to you to willingly, willfully, believe women seek to abort for the hell of it.
He has been operating for many years. I don't think his patients had to face nonsensical hurdles that prevented them from having safe legal abortions.
Gtown71

United States

#293236 Apr 24, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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It is a lie because that is not the message.
The point you people seem to miss about Gosnell is that he wasn't doing business legally, or with an eye for safety. That IS a difference that you guys don't want to acknowledge. And it's dishonest on your part.
And the fact is that if abortion were to be made illegal again, the abortions won't stop, and people like Gosnell will be the ONLY ones doing them. Without it being legal, no laws would even be in place to restrict any of it.
Pretend we're not talking about abortion for a minute. Would you really rather there be no healthcare codes, no restrictions on what someone may medically do, people practicing any kind of medicine without training or a license?
Knowing what I know, if we must have legal abortion, then yes I would want it to be as safe as possible for the woman that is obtaining the abortion. We know the outcome of the baby, but spiritualy speaking -I feel I "know " what happens to the babies, and can only pray the woman finds the peace she needs. I wouldn't wish any harm on any woman seeking an abortion, not ever! She can.live to fight through her own issues.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#293237 Apr 24, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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That would depend on the state. Why don't you write to them all and ask them?
The point is, that it's the STATES that have the civil rights in this instance, not the fetus.
Their interest is in protecting the live of the viable baby that the mother is trying to kill.
Gtown71

United States

#293238 Apr 24, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Gtown, you're a MORON. STop trying to compare drunk driving with the personal, private medical decision to abort. A decision that does not and will not affect you in ANY way, shape or form.
I disagree, there is no way with all of the abortions that have taken place since RvW, that it hasn't effected all of us in some way. I must admit I've missed your flare :)
Tell elise I miss her to, but she still "knows " I'm a jerk :(

I hope all is well with you and her. And your wife, and I do mean that.:)
I have no I'll will toward any, just killing time on my way to the house.
What if all posters was like me, wouldn't it be a magical place :) lol
Gtown71

United States

#293239 Apr 24, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Your concept of sin is only relevant to you.
For now :(

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#293241 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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No it is women determined to have have their viable babies exterminated who keep people like Gosnell in business.
You're an idiot.

Gosnell is on trial for murder, among numerous other crimes, because WOMEN died under his knife.

They were determined to have abortions, but didn't have access to a safe one. That's a result of the regulations such as 'wider hallways,' and 'distance from a school' which closed many clinics otherwise following the law.

Pro-choice isn't in favor of ridiculous limits on access to legal safe abortion.

That would be your team.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#293242 Apr 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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For now :(
And always.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#293243 Apr 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Their interest is in protecting the live of the viable baby that the mother is trying to kill.
Says you.

Point is that it doesn't matter why any state that places restrictions does so. It's irrelevant. The only parties with civil rights in the issue of abortion are the woman, and the state. No one single solitary embryo or fetus has any civil rights whatsoever. Deal with it.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#293244 Apr 24, 2013
Hey!

Can you believe the lengths these jerks would go to in order to control women?
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Yup, and hi, there.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#293245 Apr 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Knowing what I know, if we must have legal abortion, then yes I would want it to be as safe as possible for the woman that is obtaining the abortion. We know the outcome of the baby, but spiritualy speaking -I feel I "know " what happens to the babies, and can only pray the woman finds the peace she needs. I wouldn't wish any harm on any woman seeking an abortion, not ever! She can.live to fight through her own issues.
Your post here is tacit acknowledgement that there IS a difference between what Gosnell did, and what legally run clinics do.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#293246 Apr 24, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>You're an idiot.
Gosnell is on trial for murder, among numerous other crimes, because WOMEN died under his knife.
They were determined to have abortions, but didn't have access to a safe one. That's a result of the regulations such as 'wider hallways,' and 'distance from a school' which closed many clinics otherwise following the law.
Pro-choice isn't in favor of ridiculous limits on access to legal safe abortion.
That would be your team.
Why didn't these women have access to a safe abortion?

So where are all the PA women having their abortions now if Gosnell was the ONLY place to get one?

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#293247 Apr 24, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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And yet there are battered women. And young girls run by their pimps. Etc..they are victims. Not s lot of choice there..no sympathy for these women?
Legally they have a choice. But in reality their abusers can push them into getting rid od the proof of tape..prostitution. or just plain inconvenient babies..What a wonderful thing this is tor men who abuse women. And young girls..
I raised my sons not to rape or be pimps. Raise your daughters to defend themselves against attackers, and not to sell their bodies for sex.

Battered women choose crappy men, and/or to stay with jerks who abuse them. There are no victims...only volunteers. I know - I left my abuser, and have never subjected myself to another one. It's called 'self-respect'. I got some.

We ALWAYS have choices. Some are harder to make than others, but the choices are always there, and they are always our own.

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