Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310174 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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#291558 Apr 1, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Because they were too busy at PP just a few miles away where the media was surely to be. The NAF noted the deficiencies at Gosnells clinic, they reported it and they rejected his application. Morally, they were obligated to report to the State, as was Pro Life but legally they were not. The Grand Jury is correct in who is criminally responsible.
"The Grand Jury is correct in who is criminally responsible."

If you went to any other clinic and your child's spine was severed, then you found out that there were people who knew about it yet failed to report it, would you consider them "criminally responsible"? If this happened in any other medical setting, they would be.
Forum

Lovington, NM

#291559 Apr 1, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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It is unfortunate that your religion has distorted the meaning of the word much. Please stop trying redefine Hebrew, Greek and Norse beliefs.
Gehenna is not your christian lie of hell
Sheol is not your christian lie of hell
Hades is not your christian lie of hell
Tartarus is not your christian lie of hell
Vespers for Sundays
Psalm 112

Raising up the needy from the earth, and lifting
up the poor out of the dunghill; that he may p l a c e
them with princes, with the princes of His people.

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#291560 Apr 2, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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They also did nothing to protect the women and children that he was killing.
Women? Where are you getting your information? One woman died Sue due to medical incompetence in administering anesthesia. I'm not saying a disservice hasn't been done, I'm saying there were alot more powerful people that could have and should have closed him down long before the NAF entered that facility.

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#291561 Apr 2, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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"The NAF noted the deficiencies at Gosnells clinic, they reported it and they rejected his application."
Reported it to who?
Reported the findings to the NAF Sue. They are not federally or state funded which leaves them with no legal obligation to report their findings to the state of PA. Morally, they should have. I would have had it been me. But they are not criminally responsible. Hell Gosnell himself is only being charged with 3rd degree murder for the death of the one woman that state of PA is aware of. God only knows how many others there were. That isn't the fault of the NAF.

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#291562 Apr 2, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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"The Grand Jury is correct in who is criminally responsible."
If you went to any other clinic and your child's spine was severed, then you found out that there were people who knew about it yet failed to report it, would you consider them "criminally responsible"?
If this happened in any other medical setting, they would be.
If this made any sense to me I would attempt a reply.

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#291563 Apr 2, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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I found it interesting that the grand jury didn't mention the NAF at all. Couldn't be bothered with them.
However they DID say this on page 157
"The travesty, from this Grand Jury’s perspective, is that DOH could and should
have closed down Gosnell’s clinic years before. Many, if not all, of the violations cited in
the March 12, 2010, document had been present for nearly two decades. The violations
had been apparent when DOH site-reviewers, including Susan Mitchell and Janice
Staloski, inspected the facility in 1989, 1992, and 1993. Yet it was not until law
enforcement discovered the horrendous conditions inside 3801 Lancaster Avenue that
DOH took action to close the clinic."
Additionally:
THis guy was in business for 30 years, PA is a PL state with some of the most restrictive abortion laws there are yet they failed to be as "tough" and "pro active" when it came to actually inspecting and regulating abortion facilities.
Ocean56

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#291564 Apr 2, 2013
Jesus is Light wrote:
Hush! The tongue of Satan really!! That's primitive talk! We're in the 21 century! Stop making us look like backwards primitives!!!!
Too late. Conservative Christians have looked like backwards primitives for several decades at least. Your so-called "champions," like Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, with their BACKWARD views of women and women's reproductive rights, have lately been very helpful in that respect.
Ocean56

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#291565 Apr 2, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
Meanwhile these people struggle against their own human nature while fearing punishment in a mythical hell.
True. As far as I'M concerned, it's THEIR hell. Let them burn in it.

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#291567 Apr 2, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Women? Where are you getting your information? One woman died Sue due to medical incompetence in administering anesthesia. I'm not saying a disservice hasn't been done, I'm saying there were alot more powerful people that could have and should have closed him down long before the NAF entered that facility.
Here's a second:

"Semika Shaw was "just coming into her own as a young woman," Davidson said, when she died in 2002 from an infection caused by a botched abortion in Gosnell's West Philadelphia clinic."

http://articles.philly.com/2011-12-16/news/30...

"I'm saying there were alot more powerful people that could have and should have closed him down long before the NAF entered that facility."

I don't disagree, but here's their mission statement:

"The mission of the National Abortion Federation is to ensure safe, legal, and accessible abortion care, which promotes health and justice for women."

http://www.prochoice.org/about_naf/mission.ht...

I guess that they forgot about the safe part.

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#291568 Apr 2, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>If this made any sense to me I would attempt a reply.
OK, bad example. Try this one:

Your sister is planning to use a birthing center. This birthing center had been inspected by the American College of Nurse-Midwives, and they found conditions similar to Gosnell's "clinic"; anesthia being administered by untrained people, dirty conditions, emergency equipment not usable, etc-none of this reported to the proper authorities. Your sister dies and her baby is killed. Do you think that the American College of Nurse-Midwives would be at all responsible?

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#291569 Apr 2, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>THis guy was in business for 30 years, PA is a PL state with some of the most restrictive abortion laws there are yet they failed to be as "tough" and "pro active" when it came to actually inspecting and regulating abortion facilities.
And why was that?

"Instead, the Pennsylvania
Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion
clinics at all. The politics in question were not anti-abortion, but pro. With the change of
administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that
inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions. Better to leave
clinics to do as they pleased, even though, as Gosnell proved, that meant both women and babies would pay."

http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/PDFs/Gr...
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#291570 Apr 2, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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You're just like them; full of feces for jesus.
i'm full of you?!? ewww ! get your greasy smelly junk away from me!
worships reality

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#291571 Apr 2, 2013
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>No Duh. Ink said her grandson was born dead at 20 weeks and was 6 inches long. She was corrected.
no, ink said said her grandson was born dead at 20 weeks and was 10 inches long. foo said it was 6 inches long. foo was corrected. foo knew she was wrong and hasn't opened her mouth since. katie is now arguing something foo never said....duhhhhhhhhhh.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#291572 Apr 2, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Well maybe it wasn't about that at all, Ink. A quick glance at a website stating a 20wk fetus is 6.5 inches long was probably all it took. At least you can admit you were wrong. I was beginning to believe you were insufferable.
You guys have a habit of reading too much into inconsequential things and not enough when it's pertinent. It's as if you entire thought process is backward. Luckily you live in a free country where it doesn't necessarily affect anyone but you.
Try to be thankful nobody's tried to criminalize it.
:-|
The pertinent part was that I lost a grandson and you guys consider him nothing more than a dead fetus. Two views on the same subject.

You didn't answer me at all what is the point of measuring only half a baby?
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#291573 Apr 2, 2013
worships reality wrote:
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no, ink said said her grandson was born dead at 20 weeks and was 10 inches long. foo said it was 6 inches long. foo was corrected. foo knew she was wrong and hasn't opened her mouth since. katie is now arguing something foo never said....duhhhhhhhhhh.
Let me make it a little clearer.

I said I lost a grandson at 20 weeks and he was a human being. foo basically said he was nothing more than a dea 6 in fetus and laughed at the idea of holding him in my arems. I came back with that fact that I did hold him and he was at least 10 inches long.

Then they went on for days about how they measure only half the child for some inexplicable reason. So here we are.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#291574 Apr 2, 2013
dead arms

computer is sticking on some letters
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#291575 Apr 2, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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"You guys have a habit of reading too much into inconsequential things and not enough when it's pertinent."
Like all the human lives that have been killed in the name of "choice", or the way pro"choicers" ignored Gosnell's "clinic"?
She doesn't understand the 'pertinent' part of the conversation. It was about whether the child was a 'human being' or as foo said just a dead fetus. s about placing value on human life. As I said before, people like gosnell are able to continue because he is doing what he was paid for, killing babies and no one was complaining if they were killed slightly after birth.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#291576 Apr 2, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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Ask P.T. Barnum.
He would probably say it was a miracle.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#291577 Apr 2, 2013
Bit-O-Honey wrote:
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Don't know about 6inches, but you WERE supposedly holding a dead fetus.
You are not fond of facts I see.
I thought you said they were babies after they were out of the womb.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#291578 Apr 2, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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And Foo wrote up her arguments in detail and then added the supporting scriptures and showed why they supported her stance. It filled 2 whole posts and I read it all. You post a link..and tell me there's enough to keep me "looking things up for a week", but me looking things up for a week is not you supporting your own stance. I could very easily look all that up and come to the same answers as Foo.
Foo did the work to support her position. You did pretty much nothing. Big difference.
She made it easy for you but all she said was nothing in scripture has come to pass. I showed you where it has.

You can buy what she says hook line and sinker but it is a stupid conversation to have with you because you don't believe anything in Judaism either. Dead man walking.

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