Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision. Full Story
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#286204 Feb 24, 2013
A little off the subject, but this is why the liberal ideology is so disappointing starting at the top.

Unwilling to acknowledge the government has a spending problem over the last five years and that tax revenues are short because his policies have instigated the weakest recovery since the Great Depression, President Obama is threatening draconian measures if Republicans donít agree to more taxes.

All of our taxes went up January 1. How much more does this government think we can give when they just keep spending/"investing" ?

Since: Sep 08

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#286205 Feb 24, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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Watch the video, Silent Scream, the abortion of a 3-month-old fetus. If you can. Then decide if the unborn have a choice before calling me stupid.
I have watched it. Laughed through the whole thing. It was a great example of really bad abortion porn,

Zygotes, embryo's an fetus's dont get choices dear. THey cant MAKE choices dear.

Yes, if you think so, you are BEYOND STUPID.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#286206 Feb 24, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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I think the question was - do you tell the truth, Bitter?
Ah, now you're deflecting. No surprise.

Since: Sep 08

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#286207 Feb 24, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Our discussion was about "partial birth abortion", not late term abortion.
He was charged. Was he convicted?.
Nope. The charges were dropped.

This is a wonderful site telling the stories of many of Dr Tillers patients in the voices of the patients themselves, not the idiots who try to twist or ignore their testimony.

Since: Sep 08

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#286208 Feb 24, 2013
Whoops, forgot the link:

http://www.aheartbreakingchoice.com/
sickofit

Owatonna, MN

#286209 Feb 24, 2013
I have an idea. How about everyone control there own body and personal life...YOU KNOW LIKE CONSTITUTION PROMISES US....
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#286210 Feb 24, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Our discussion was about "partial birth abortion", not late term abortion.
He was charged. Was he convicted?
And no, a fetus at the gestational age of 22 weeks is not "viable". It has a 50% chance of surviving, and only with medical intervention. So your statement that they were "all" viable, is incorrect. They MAY have been viable.
Can you look at this 22-week-old fetus and say it really matters if it's viable at 22 weeks or 24 weeks?

http://baby2see.com/development/week22.html

At 22 weeks' gestation:
~The fetus reacts to loud sounds.
~Baby starts having a regular sleeping and waking rhythm.
~The mother's movements can wake her baby.
~Taste buds are forming on your baby's tongue.
~~The eyebrows and eyelids are fully developed and the fingernails cover the fingertips.
~Sounds from a conversation are loud enough to be heard by the fetus in the uterus. If you talk, read or sing to your baby, it's reasonable to expect him or her to be able to hear you.
~Baby's pancreas (a super-duper organ that produces hormones and aids in digestion) is now making its own hormones for your baby's body and brain.
~Baby is actively feeling out its surroundings of skin, body parts and the umbilical cord being sensory experiences.

Since: Sep 08

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#286211 Feb 24, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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How does a 13 week old baby fight for its life? Serious question.
It doesn't. That's simply the emotional rhetoric of the anti-choice crowd. The "Abby Johnson" she mentions was proven to be a liar when she claimed that as an administrator (she was NOT a nurse) that she sat in on an ultrasound abortion, in a facility that didn't DO ultrasound abortions.

Cute trick huh?

And isn't it interesting she had been written up and was about to be fired when she suddenly had this miraculous "conversion", just before she quit and was hired by Americans United for Life as its Senior Policy Advisor?

Hell, much like with the RCC, these "leaders" of the extremist PL movement aren't stupid - they know they can feed whatever pablum they want to the ones that ARE stupid - the fools like Sapphireblue, who need NO proof (preaching to the converted as it were) as long as what they say fits into their agendas.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#286212 Feb 24, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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You're a moron Inkstain.
Gosnell is in jail for murder. He will stay there. Tiller, when ANY charges were leveled by idiots like you that went fishing, was cleared.
Gosnell was a murderer and a drug dealer. You are an idiot. You're much more like Tiller than you want to think.
Exactly, he wasn't charged with illegal abortions as Bitner thinks. He was doing the same job as Tiller.

Since: Sep 08

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#286213 Feb 24, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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What exactly is a 'asshat?'
Substitute "hole" for "Hat" for the censors.

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#286214 Feb 24, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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You said it yourself, "as far as I'm concerned". But you cannot prove God doesn't exist.
And you can't prove he does.

Carry on.
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#286215 Feb 24, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Nope. The charges were dropped.
This is a wonderful site telling the stories of many of Dr Tillers patients in the voices of the patients themselves, not the idiots who try to twist or ignore their testimony.
They weren't dropped. The district attorney wouldn't try Tiller in her jurisdiction. She supported him and late-term abortions, so the judge had no choice but to "dismiss" the case based on this development.

It does not mean he was innocent. Tiller was just lucky the district attorney was on his side.

Ironically, his killer admitted the only reason he killed him was because he wasn't tried. If the district attorney had done her job, Tiller would still be alive today.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#286216 Feb 24, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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My Jewish religion is for women making their OWN choices.
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I support the choice of women to make their OWN choices.
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Yes I do. I have escorted women to help protect them from idiots like you. That is NOT supporting the choice they've made, its ensuring that they can carry out their choice without being harassed by fools.
Please post something from an orhtodox Jewish site that condones a woman aborting her baby
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#286218 Feb 24, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Agreed. But that's not what was being discussed. Some were trying to compare the legal, safe and transparent practice of the murdered Dr Tiller, to the illegal, unsave "practice" of the murderer Gosnell.
We know for a fact that LTAs produced babies born alive. What do you suppose Tiller did with them?
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#286220 Feb 24, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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Still makes no sense. You're comparing an adult woman to a fetus at 14 weeks gestation? A fetus that has approximately 26 more weeks to develop before being born? Maybe you should put the bottle away for awhile.
I'm comparing two human beings who are "normal" for their respective stages of human life.

After Katie goes through menopause, she will remain normal based on her stage of human life. A preborn baby is also normal for his/her stage of human life.

If it is okay for you to intentionally kill a preborn baby b/c s/he is "different" at that respective stage of human life, then you must see post-menopausal Katie as "lacking" post-menopausally. If you are consistent in your human-life stage bias, you would see post-menopausal Katie as subhuman. You'd also consider grumpy & his impotence as subhuman....i.e., not worthy of life.

Are you admitting that you are "selectively" discriminatory? Where is your consistency? A human-life stage is a human-life stage. Why do you use random demarcations along others' human life spectrums to decide whose life is not worth living?

You're a hypocrite for convenience. Your random classification scheme AGAINST the right of preborn babies to life is nothing more than discrimination - to death.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#286221 Feb 24, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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When did I say priests should go to prison for being gay?
They should go to prison for breaking the law. Do you agree that raping little boys is against the law? You seem to have this weird affection for priests. Wonder why?
No, friend, you were complaining about them having sex wiyh other men. I can bring up your post if you would like to read your words again. In a liberal world is there anything wrong with men having sex with men?
SapphireBlue

Orlando, FL

#286222 Feb 24, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>And you can't prove he does.
Carry on.
I'm not the one who dismissed someone else's belief in God as being imaginary and irrelevant.

Millions of people worldwide believe in some kind of Deity. According to gallup, 9 out of 10 Americans believe in God.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#286223 Feb 24, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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They weren't dropped. The district attorney wouldn't try Tiller in her jurisdiction. She supported him and late-term abortions, so the judge had no choice but to "dismiss" the case based on this development.
It does not mean he was innocent. Tiller was just lucky the district attorney was on his side.
Ironically, his killer admitted the only reason he killed him was because he wasn't tried. If the district attorney had done her job, Tiller would still be alive today.
I think I read that he was under indictment at the time of his death.hey would have gotten him eventually as they did his partner.

Since: Sep 08

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#286225 Feb 24, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Exactly, he wasn't charged with illegal abortions as Bitner thinks. He was doing the same job as Tiller.
Actually, he WAS charged with illegal abortions, among other things you idiot.

No, he was NOT doing the same job as Dr Tiller.

You're an idiot.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#286226 Feb 24, 2013
SapphireBlue wrote:
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Can you look at this 22-week-old fetus and say it really matters if it's viable at 22 weeks or 24 weeks?
http://baby2see.com/development/week22.html
At 22 weeks' gestation:
~The fetus reacts to loud sounds.
~Baby starts having a regular sleeping and waking rhythm.
~The mother's movements can wake her baby.
~Taste buds are forming on your baby's tongue.
~~The eyebrows and eyelids are fully developed and the fingernails cover the fingertips.
~Sounds from a conversation are loud enough to be heard by the fetus in the uterus. If you talk, read or sing to your baby, it's reasonable to expect him or her to be able to hear you.
~Baby's pancreas (a super-duper organ that produces hormones and aids in digestion) is now making its own hormones for your baby's body and brain.
~Baby is actively feeling out its surroundings of skin, body parts and the umbilical cord being sensory experiences.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I said nothing about whether or not it "matters".

I corrected your mistake, that's all. By the way, I've seen many ultrasounds, and likely know more about fetal development than you do.

Is there some reason you can't stick to what is actually being discussed?

Oh, that's right, you can't refute me. Got it.

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