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“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#279797 Jan 25, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
I write the way I do to get the attention of you PCers and make you consider the abortion issue from new perspectives.
You have been so indoctrinated with Pro-Choice propaganda from the time of your birth that you are blind followers of it.
Perhaps by throwing new perspectives of the issue at you, you may start to consider whether your hardened PC position/viewpoints truly make sense and that they are truly just.
There isn't any more hardened position than the United States' Constitution, especially in light of biblical scriptures and religious teachings not being expressly against abortion, but in fact, for it. Hosea 13:16 and Hosea 9:14 and 16 are prime examples.
Gtown71

United States

#279798 Jan 25, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
I'm saying it doesn't take faith to look at the evidence concerning geology or biology. That you can't understand it I
ls another matter.
Biblical input can be taught in contextx like literature or comparative religions; it cannot be taught in a manner that suggests it is true.
Your little girl's school is in blatant violation of the law.
<quoted text>
What law?

Most schools are afaid to have in them, what they had for years becouse they may get carried to court "which cost money ".

You like science? Just look at schools 50 years ago compared to today.
Anonymous

Jefferson, GA

#279799 Jan 25, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
Tondaleyo: "cPeter, why was he called Vlad the Impaler? BECAUSE HE ORDERED THE MASS MURDER OF THOUSANDS BY IMPALING THEM."
Vladdy can related to Vlad the Impaler through his baby-killing mission.
I think Vlad Jr. gets off on the idea of Romanias enemies having steaks slowly shoved inside them as they die slowly...

sick
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#279800 Jan 25, 2013
Bitner wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion -bill_n_2541894.html
Completely outrageous.
One, what are they going to do with the child, keep it in the evidence locker until the trial? These people say WE objectify a fetus, well what the f*ck do they think THIS proposal does?
Two, do they even have ANY concept of WHY incest is really illegal?
Wouldn't saving the cord and taking a DNA sample be just as acceptable for evidence?

Do these people really believe they are "helping" women with these ridiculous ideas?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#279801 Jan 25, 2013
SeattleVehix44 wrote:
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I think Vlad Jr. gets off on the idea of Romanias enemies having steaks slowly shoved inside them as they die slowly...
sick
T-bone? Porterhouse? Sirloin? And was the beef cooked, or raw when it was "shoved inside them"?
STO

Vallejo, CA

#279802 Jan 25, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
The woman would've been defiled if she "CHEATED " not if she was "PREGNANT ".
Clearly, the ingestion of the "bitter water" and the woman's body's reaction to it is the test to find out if she cheated. I'm not sure how you're missing those passagees.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>Plus the only way to come to your version, is by using the last verse, that states the clean woman "the woman who did not cheat " "the woman IN YOUR VIEW that was not pregnant" was the woman who had an abortion, and is now cleared to get pregnant.
Not at all. Again, clearly the passages outline a comparison between what the "bitter water" will do to the woman who is defiled and how it will not affect the woman who has not cheated.

Again, you're either not reading the bulk of the passages or you are ignoring them.

Clearly, the "bitter water" evidences the adultery in a physical way. That physical way is specific to the woman's womb, loins, procreational organs. Clearly, the evidence is outward for the whole community to see. Clearly, the woman who did not commit adultery can conceive seed with her husband. The guilty woman, by contrast, could not.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#279803 Jan 25, 2013
BraveCon wrote:
<quoted text>
You better change your ways or you may end up a slave of Satan's in the after-life.
OH NO BE AFFRAID OF A MADE UP MYTH BAD GUY,.,.,.,.,.SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE,,,,,,LOL......I live in real world.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#279804 Jan 25, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>

the pro choice folks show degrading pics of adult women who died frim their choices.

They then say pro life folks do the same thing, by showing pics of dead "tissue " "wads " or whatever the call the child.

It is another double standard to say the unborn is NOT a baby, yet pics of an unborn child "IS " a baby.
"It is another double standard to say the unborn is NOT a baby, yet pics of an unborn child "IS " a baby."

No one I've seen post here has made that claim. Here's my post, again:

STO wrote:
<quoted text>
You have mentioned double standards several times.

This example illustrates a valid double standard.

A few AC posters here have said circulating the photo of Gerri Santoro's dead body is degrading. However, they do not apply the same standard to the photos that AC folks put on posters for public view - photos AC claim are dead children. Why would these ACers not consider a photo of an aborted fetus equally degrading?

**********

Clearly, I stated that it is AC folks who claim the photos are of dead children. Clearly, I did not state PC folks have made that claim.

You didn't address my point.

Do you have a learning disability? Not asking to be insulting. It's just that you misunderstand a lot of posts. I noticed Cpeter posted to you that you draw false inferences, and you do. However, you do it so often, I tend to believe it's not deliberate, and that you're simply having a hard time deciphering the text of others.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#279805 Jan 25, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Wouldn't saving the cord and taking a DNA sample be just as acceptable for evidence?
Do these people really believe they are "helping" women with these ridiculous ideas?
No, they believe that they are making it hard for a woman to have an abortion. That's it. They're PRETENDING it's "helping women". I just read where the one who introduced the bill is now trying to backpedal, and say that the intent is to punish the rapist for "tampering with the evidence", and that she'll be rewording the bill.

HOW do you suppose that would work, exactly? A man rapes a woman, she gets pregnant, she chooses to have an abortion, and they arrest HIM with "tampering with the evidence"?

These people just don't think things through.

“Post at your own risk”

Since: Sep 09

Whining is unbecoming

#279806 Jan 25, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Wouldn't saving the cord and taking a DNA sample be just as acceptable for evidence?
Do these people really believe they are "helping" women with these ridiculous ideas?
What's even more horrifying in my mind is that a rapist could skate unless validated by dna from offspring. Since when do all rapes end in conception? Further what if the woman has relations with others - does that mean she "asked" to be raped. Sickening on all levels.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#279807 Jan 25, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it is!!! A pregnant woman can choose to be a mother of a alive child or a dead one, but either way she is a mother.
Why do you suppose, then, most women do not oonsider themselves to be mothers when they miscarry (and have no children)? They "keep trying" to conceive and carry to term so that they can be mothers. Would you tell such a woman she is the mother of a dead child(ren)?
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#279808 Jan 25, 2013
No Relativism wrote:
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KluelessKatie: "Stating it's a process changing from fetus to newborn is not worth verifying."
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha!!
It's "not worth verifying" b/c you're talking out your arse.
Again.
__________
KluelessKatie: "There is no magical moment when fetus becomes baby -- which was the PL claim."
The transition between theses stages of human life are well established. It's not a prolife claim, dear.
__________
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Again.
Mental midget.
Your personal attacks, ad homs, are weak. These only highlight your inability to go beyond dissecting into analyzing basic concepts and principles.

You asked a hypothetical. I answered it. I based my answer on the medical fact a stillborn is technically considered a fetus because it didn't take its first breath.

That's it. All the other info presented was to help others understand. You've chosen to go over this again and again. But you've added nothing. You still can't claim I am wrong, no matter how often or how loud or how rude your posts when you try.

Yes, medically, fetus adjusting to life outside the womb is a process. It encompasses the newborn's ability to sustain itself outside the womb.

Legally, that magical moment of fetus becoming newborn is upon a complete birth (when baby's breathing and the cord is cut).

It is that simple.
Anonymous

Jefferson, GA

#279809 Jan 25, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
T-bone? Porterhouse? Sirloin? And was the beef cooked, or raw when it was "shoved inside them"?
thank you, at least you see how sick this SOB is
STO

Vallejo, CA

#279810 Jan 25, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
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Because fetuses didn't CHOOSE to risk dying, they were killed. They didn't CHOOSE to kill their child in utero out of FEAR, they were the ones killed. We're not the side that keeps using "right to privacy" as its mantra, yet that woman's privacy couldn't be more violated than that, and done by PCers. LOTS of reasons why the double standards are from PCers and not PLers.
Because a fetus isn't capable of making a choice and Gerri Santoro made a choice, you're postulating Gerri Santoro has a "right to privacy" after death, while the fetus does not.

Even tho neither are the least bit aware.

Sorry, lilLynne, but your opinion does not speak to the point. When you claim a fetus should be viewed no differently than a woman, then logically, you would apply the same standard to both. And in this case, you are not. That is why we are pointing out your double standard.
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#279811 Jan 25, 2013
Junket wrote:
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What's even more horrifying in my mind is that a rapist could skate unless validated by dna from offspring. Since when do all rapes end in conception? Further what if the woman has relations with others - does that mean she "asked" to be raped. Sickening on all levels.
It is, AJ. I can barely wrap my mind around the implications of it all.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#279812 Jan 25, 2013
SeattleVehix44 wrote:
<quoted text>thank you, at least you see how sick this SOB is
Wow. I was mocking YOU.

The word is "stakes", not "steaks".

Katie

Puyallup, WA

#279813 Jan 25, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No, they believe that they are making it hard for a woman to have an abortion. That's it. They're PRETENDING it's "helping women". I just read where the one who introduced the bill is now trying to backpedal, and say that the intent is to punish the rapist for "tampering with the evidence", and that she'll be rewording the bill.
HOW do you suppose that would work, exactly? A man rapes a woman, she gets pregnant, she chooses to have an abortion, and they arrest HIM with "tampering with the evidence"?
These people just don't think things through.
Apparently not, Bit. Thinking's not their priority. It's having a half-baked idea, pushing it through trying to meet deadline, with very little fact checking. It's become laughable, doesn't seem to have much traction.
STO

Vallejo, CA

#279814 Jan 25, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>And lets not forget one of the ring leaders of the anti-choice movement, that asshat Randall Terry who was arrested and jailed for throwing a fetus at President Clinton. I want to know where they get these "fetus's" to toss around and take pictures of.
Lol! No SHIT.
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>Oh yeah, I almost forgot, MOST of those pictures and fetus's are fake. But THAT makes it okay.
In which case, it would make more sense lilLynne would say it was okay. But all the AC here claim the photos are real.

lilLynne's logic is backwards, imo. Seems to me, because GS died because she broke the law, and is unaware (because she's dead) she would have less right to privacy than a fetus who did not break the law, and is also unaware. Therefore, the degradation she claims would more rightly apply to the fetus, given her logic. Lillynne has a habit of grasping at straws.
No Relativism

West Lafayette, IN

#279815 Jan 25, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Wouldn't saving the cord and taking a DNA sample be just as acceptable for evidence?
Do these people really believe they are "helping" women with these ridiculous ideas?
What is the point of handing down a death sentence to a preborn baby who is innocent and only doing what s/he is supposed to be doing - growing and developing?

Go after the perp. Leave the baby alone. Were you raised by rabid monkeys?
No Relativism

West Lafayette, IN

#279816 Jan 25, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
T-bone? Porterhouse? Sirloin? And was the beef cooked, or raw when it was "shoved inside them"?
Did Seattle's comment make you crave another butter and bacon sandwich?

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