Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 326412 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Game on !”

Since: Aug 09

nyc

#279452 Jan 23, 2013
What a pathetic rebuttal!
Here's my contention, restated:
Doc, you can't prove it's wrong, so stop trying. As I've stated herein, FHLs exist for the protection of a woman's right to carry a wanted pregnancy to term by the vehicle of providing for additional punishment against the perpetrator,
No, as you've stated that is the ONLY reason they exist. Again, wanna retract that ?

in the hopes of deterring violence against pregnant women. Not women by and for themselves, but PREGNANT women.
And, since FHLs isolate pregnant women from non-pregnant women, the only way to validate them is to designate the fetus as a separate victim, for the sole purpose of the illegal termination of a presumed wanted pregnancy.
Now, go find something better than your proposed line of bs, which obviously the legislature decided against.
You really think you're smart Doc; the "Unlawful Termination of Pregnancy Law."
Wow!!!!
Let's see; we'll charge the perp with unlawfully terminating a pregnancy and make him/her go to prison for say 20 years; then if mommy dies in the attack, and it was deliberate and intentional, we'll sentence him to life in prison, or put him on death row.
So he gets one sentence for a lesser crime and another sentence for a higher crime, both of which are likely to run consecutively.
Nothing wrong with that F Lee. It wouldn't be the first time it's been done.
So he gets to do 20 years before doing time for the murder of mommy. That's some way of getting around the 8th Amendment. Ain't it Doc?
Think Doc. I'm sure even you can do that.
And if mommy does NOT die in the assault but is only injured we have a mechanism for sentencing him beyond his punishment for the mere assault.
See how that works F Lee ?

How is that getting around the 8th amendment ? You're wacky.
PastorBob666

Montgomery Village, MD

#279453 Jan 23, 2013
<<<That person is still a person, and given respect, you would throw the body in the dumpster, caring people wouldn't.>>

A fetus is not a "person" uder our laws.

<<That child who died being born, or before being born>>

It isn't a child until; it is born under our legal system.

<<is the Image and Likeness of God>>

proof you know what your god looks like? Doers he have a cleft lip? Flippers like a Thalidamide baby? I'm betting he has anencephalopathy, if he really existed!

<<<and you showing disrespect is disrespecting God. >>

I don't have an respect for imaginary creatures! I micturate on your deity!

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#279454 Jan 23, 2013
PastorBob666 wrote:
<<<That person is still a person, and given respect, you would throw the body in the dumpster, caring people wouldn't.>>
A fetus is not a "person" uder our laws.
<<That child who died being born, or before being born>>
It isn't a child until; it is born under our legal system.
<<is the Image and Likeness of God>>
proof you know what your god looks like? Doers he have a cleft lip? Flippers like a Thalidamide baby? I'm betting he has anencephalopathy, if he really existed!
<<<and you showing disrespect is disrespecting God. >>
I don't have an respect for imaginary creatures! I micturate on your deity!
"It isn't a child until; it is born under our legal system."

Wrong. A fetus is a child, by definition.
Posting definitions that apply to this:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chi...

child
noun, often attributive \&#712;ch&#299;(-& #601;)ld\
pluralchilˇdren

Definition of CHILD
1a: an unborn or recently born person

4a: a son or daughter of human parents

People know they're having a son or daughter, with high accuracy via ultra sound, by 12 weeks.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#279455 Jan 23, 2013
SeattleVehix44 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Unlike you who IS working" - wrong, im on here debating, not trying to remove rights
dude, really? when she says "watch as we take away your murder weapons!".......you dont think she wants guns banned?
"It's involving semi-automatic weapons." - lady, do you REALLY want to ban all semi autos??? in know you're a big liberal whose afraid of ownign a gun but here's the deal, MOST guns are semi-auto.........that would mean the only legal guns would be shotguns (which are profoundly lethal) & REVOLVERS that only hold 6 shots..........you want that?
If you need more than 6 shots, you need more practice.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#279456 Jan 23, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
"It isn't a child until; it is born under our legal system."
Wrong. A fetus is a child, by definition.
Posting definitions that apply to this:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chi...
child
noun, often attributive \&#712;ch&#299;(-& #601;)ld\
pluralchilˇdren
Definition of CHILD
1a: an unborn or recently born person
4a: a son or daughter of human parents
People know they're having a son or daughter, with high accuracy via ultra sound, by 12 weeks.
you might wanna check out legal definitions.

i hear those colorado catholics are claiming it's not a child until born, too. let nr know asap, mmkay?
Katie

Seattle, WA

#279457 Jan 23, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said!
I did not even read her story.
I seen the pic, and closed it out.
that's twice you claimed not to've read something, but it hasn't stopped you from commenting on it. and that's just today. yesterday, i am thinking you did it, too.

what's up with that anyway? you got something to say about something you haven't even looked into yet?

hmmm
PastorBob666

Montgomery Village, MD

#279458 Jan 23, 2013
<<Wrong. A fetus is a child, by definition.>>

Only in a philosophical context... Not in the medical or legal context. Hopefully, your 16 year old doesn't wear diapers, even though the legal definition of a teen (technically) is an infant. Legally, you are an infant until you are 18.

<<Posting definitions that apply to this:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chi ...
child noun, often attributive \&#712;ch&#299;(-& #601;)ld\ pluralchilˇdren
Definition of CHILD 1a: an unborn or recently born person 4a: a son or daughter of human parents
People know they're having a son or daughter, with high accuracy via ultra sound, by 12 weeks. >>

That's not the legal definition of a person (child). We are talking law here, not religion or philosophy. The law sez you gotta be born to be a person (child).

Even Catholics agree that a fetus is not a person (if it costs them any money!)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/23/1181...
Gtown71

United States

#279459 Jan 23, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
that's twice you claimed not to've read something, but it hasn't stopped you from commenting on it. and that's just today. yesterday, i am thinking you did it, too.
what's up with that anyway? you got something to say about something you haven't even looked into yet?
hmmm
Why did I need to read the story, which didn't help her case at all.

She directed me to a websight, where clearly the lady died from a botched abortion,before abortions were made legal.

Which I said and believe is very sad.

I also don't need to look at chopped up late term babies, to understand what happenes to them either.

The deal is -if the man who was performing the abortion was caught, He would've been convicted of 2 murders not 1.

Plus I only commented on what I seen.

After seeing the story,it seems they painted a bad picture of the man she was married to, but again no one forced her to start dating another man, or start having sex with the other man, or seek an illegal abortion after the other man gets her pregnant.

So who is to blame for this ladies death?

Who is to blame for any suicides that took place before abortion was made legal?

Abortions "as you guys point out all the time ",were very risky, before they were made legal.

This lady knew that as well, since she lived during this time.

Her family stated that she felt her life threatened becouse she was pregnant with another mans baby.

She gambled, with the intent that she could rid herself of her problem.

She lost.

It is a very sad story, but I agree thet pro choice folks are still using her to push their agenda.

She clearly didn't want others to know she was pregnant, so it is a safe bet she wouldn't want the entire world to see her naked dead body.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#279460 Jan 23, 2013
If I were a woman, I think I'd be ticked about the whole situation. It's my body, I'll make my own choices, thank you very much. Just me though....
Katie

Seattle, WA

#279461 Jan 23, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did I need to read the story, which didn't help her case at all.
She directed me to a websight, where clearly the lady died from a botched abortion,before abortions were made legal.
Which I said and believe is very sad.
I also don't need to look at chopped up late term babies, to understand what happenes to them either.
The deal is -if the man who was performing the abortion was caught, He would've been convicted of 2 murders not 1.
Plus I only commented on what I seen.
After seeing the story,it seems they painted a bad picture of the man she was married to, but again no one forced her to start dating another man, or start having sex with the other man, or seek an illegal abortion after the other man gets her pregnant.
So who is to blame for this ladies death?
Who is to blame for any suicides that took place before abortion was made legal?
Abortions "as you guys point out all the time ",were very risky, before they were made legal.
This lady knew that as well, since she lived during this time.
Her family stated that she felt her life threatened becouse she was pregnant with another mans baby.
She gambled, with the intent that she could rid herself of her problem.
She lost.
It is a very sad story, but I agree thet pro choice folks are still using her to push their agenda.
She clearly didn't want others to know she was pregnant, so it is a safe bet she wouldn't want the entire world to see her naked dead body.
She directed you there to show you that illegal abortion does not equal a safe abortion. Which is what you claimed earlier today. That even if an illegal abortion, it'd be as safe as a legal one.

She showed you're incorrect. And you couldn't be bothered to read why. But you sure can and do jump to conclusions. How do you know if you're correctly discerning if you don't know what you're talking about?
Gtown71

United States

#279462 Jan 23, 2013
LRS wrote:
If I were a woman, I think I'd be ticked about the whole situation. It's my body, I'll make my own choices, thank you very much. Just me though....
That sounds easy enough, but when a woman is pregnant sooner or later someone must realize that their are more involved the just the womans body. Not to mention that there is a man involved, who must wait and see what the woman chooses to do with "his " baby inside of her body. Then you have many people who are being forced to chip in their money to support such things, so when all is taken into consideration, it involves much more then I'm a woman and it is my body.
Gtown71

United States

#279463 Jan 23, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
She directed you there to show you that illegal abortion does not equal a safe abortion. Which is what you claimed earlier today. That even if an illegal abortion, it'd be as safe as a legal one.
She showed you're incorrect. And you couldn't be bothered to read why. But you sure can and do jump to conclusions. How do you know if you're correctly discerning if you don't know what you're talking about?
Again why should I read it?
You seem to have read my post, and yet didn't interpet it correct.

I stated that if abortions were made illegal TODAY -NOW -AFTER 40 YEARS OF THEM MAKING TOOLS AND LEARNING THE EASIEST MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS OF ABORTION -that they would not have to go back to coathangers in a shady motel.

Illegal abortions are taken place today, the number we have only reflects those that are recorded.
Tom Tom

Allentown, PA

#279464 Jan 23, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
So, how's your job? Still giving "examinations" to kindergarteners? Or did you run out of candy?
<quoted text>
Hey Vlady I'm no gay priest. No candy, no9 kiddies.
Tom Tom

Allentown, PA

#279465 Jan 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Amazing, isn't it? He has no idea what he's talking about, but that doesn't stop him from spouting.
Stuck in the past, all of them, and immature. I'm a Massage anLicensed d Bodywork Therapist and Doula. A medical professional with a more extensive education in human anatomy and physiology than even a Nurse has, and as much about the human reproductive system. With my own business. Yet all they can think about is a "massage parlor", and a sexual aspect that doesn't exist in therapeutic massage. He's just a dirty minded little boy.
I give you massage and I am a also a Doula. I know more than nurses and some doctors. So if you want that nasty but holoe bl;eached I am the one for the job.

You were better when you gave your lame reasons for claiming to be prolife while defending the choice of abortion. Of course the fallback position for you prtoabortion oagans is to call someone a troll when they have you pegged. You could leave the Faith when you didn't get your way but you can't leave the truth. All the pixie dust and gay pagans in the world won't change that.

"Bodywork Therapist and Doula", ROFLMAO.......
Tom Tom

Allentown, PA

#279466 Jan 23, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Oooo, now, you went and did it. By speaking with authority and pride about your occupation, you will begin accused of bragging and/or lying. Lol
"you will begin accused of bragging and/or lying"

What else is new. That is all she ever does, besides lie about abortion.
Tom Tom

Allentown, PA

#279467 Jan 23, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
It's getting hot in here...
<quoted text>
Easy there Vlady, calm your sphincter. She isn't that kind of massage therapist. You better find your happy ending somewhere else.
Ocean56

AOL

#279470 Jan 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
As far as little girls being brainwashed into playing with baby dolls? I don't think so. They desire a baby doll. I never pushed baby dolls on my little girl, she wanted one. Like any normal little girl, she also has mentioned wanting a baby brother or sister, and yet we never taught her that either.
Granted her dolls would die if it was left up to her. Lol
Babies are alot of work.
I don't doubt, not one word of that ladies story, but again what life does she so greatly miss??
We all want to go back to the carefree days, but they are gone!
Her friends would've moved on baby or no baby.
Now please tell me this, since you would be the first to say how a girl should not be punished her whole life for getting pregnant.
Why should this lady be punished her whole life for having a baby and later regreting it.
Even her grades suffered? Yes I agree -my wife is not as "sharp " as she used to be.
She just finish teaching a pharmacy tech class, that should have been pretty easy for her, but s
It was much tougher on her.
Babies take -and a mother gives.
If this woman wants her life back, then she can still have it.
Sign away her rights, leave her man, and go back to how it was.
She would find it is just a dream.
She's upset that she sealed her fate at a young age to be a mother.
These are things "had she known " she would've never gotten pregnant.
No matter what she can't go back.
One day, when all the do my own thing, coffee shops and malls by day, and party like a rockstar by night, wears old. She will be glad she has a child.
The reason I posted the story of a woman who REGRETS being a mother was to challenge the FALSE assertion by anti-choicers that "mothers never regret having their children."

As the story by this woman clearly illustrates, that assertion is simply NOT TRUE. Women who are undecided about having children would probably find it very helpful to read this and other stories BEFORE they ever get married or get pregnant. NOT all girls/women are suited to motherhood, and if they read these stories and decide it is NOT for them, they have made the right decision. They don't need YOUR approval to make it either.
Ocean56

AOL

#279471 Jan 24, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
You really ARE a MORON.
Ocean is saying EXACTLY that you dolt.
lol Yep, and I just told him that one MORE time too, a few minutes ago. Maybe he'll get it this time, but at this point I rather doubt it.

Gtown still seems to have this archaic mindset that all women "should" want to be mothers, and if some women don't want motherhood at any time in their lives, there's something "wrong" with them. A ridiculous attitude, obviously, but that seems to be where his "thinking" is.
Ocean56

AOL

#279472 Jan 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
That sounds easy enough, but when a woman is pregnant sooner or later someone must realize that their are more involved the just the womans body. Not to mention that there is a man involved, who must wait and see what the woman chooses to do with "his " baby inside of her body.
Oh geez, THAT nonsense again. Sorry, dude (not really), but any man who has a problem with a woman aborting the product of his sperm needs to ask the question "what would you do if you got pregnant?" BEFORE he sleeps with a woman, not afterward.

If he can't be bothered to take this simple precautionary step BEFORE having sex with or beginning a relationship with a woman, then he has only HIMSELF to blame when this situation arises. You don't get to force a woman to gestate an unwanted pregnancy any more than you can force her to abort one. Whether YOU like it or not, it is still the WOMAN's decision, and her RIGHT to make it.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#279473 Jan 24, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
It don't bother me, it is the fact that the only rights he brings up, and defends are those of his voter base.
If his voter base believes in such and such -well that is the way he is going to go.
At the same time, he and his railed mitt R for doing the same thing, when he was running for the great office of tbe president of the US
Your opinion is made up of pure fiction. If you think otherwise, please prove it.

Now, back your complaint: As long as people work toward taking away our rights, whatever rights they may be, you will have to hear about it, over and over, all of the time. You don't like it? Tough sh*t. I don't mind hearing people talk about their 2nd Amendment rights, all of the time. Why would I?

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