Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 311613 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#276684 Jan 14, 2013
Katie wrote:
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Forgive me, CD. I thought in uteri was plural.
A woman sometimes has a thin wall within her uterus and technically can have two ZEFs growing at different rates in uteri. Whereas a woman with no thin wall in her uterus has only one ZEF growing at one time in utero.
You may be right Katie. I'll get clarification on that tonight from my wife.

And if it turns out I'm wrong, you know me; I have no qualms with being the first to admit it, when I am.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#276685 Jan 14, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Forgive me, CD. I thought in uteri was plural.
A woman sometimes has a thin wall within her uterus and technically can have two ZEFs growing at different rates in uteri. Whereas a woman with no thin wall in her uterus has only one ZEF growing at one time in utero.
BTW Katie, nothing to forgive darling. ;-)

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#276686 Jan 14, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
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Yes, it did "define" it that way, and by "define"; the words in that law clearly state the meaning of unborn child and human being were about the human life in utero.
You people NEVER understand what you read. I wish I could say it's just sometimes, but it's ALL the time.
""Sec. 1841. Protection of unborn children"
That's about the victim in utero only, bonehead.
"‘(2)(A) Except as otherwise provided in this paragraph, the punishment for that separate offense is the same as the punishment provided under Federal law for that conduct had that injury or death occurred to the unborn child’s mother."
Do you see the words "separate offense" and "is the same punishment as..."? That's about the victim in utero only.
"‘(ii) the defendant intended to cause the death of, or bodily injury to, the unborn child." That's about unborn child.
"‘(C) If the person engaging in the conduct thereby intentionally kills or attempts to kill the unborn child, that person shall instead of being punished under subparagraph (A), be punished as provided under sections 1111, 1112, and 1113 of this title for intentionally killing or attempting to kill a human being."
Again about the unborn child and is distinguishing that human life from that of its mother, and calling that human life in utero an unborn "child" and a "human being".
I could go on and cite each paragraph of that law having to do with the unborn child only, but you probably won't even understand the law even when I held your hand and broke it down FOR you.
You TRULY are a sanctimonious bitch Lynniekins.

You can cite the paragraphs 432 MORE times in your lame attempts to twist existing laws to suit your agenda, but you are simply not intelligent enough and thus FAIL to recognize and realise something even the LAW recognizes:

The Victims of Violence act recognizes the fetus as AN ADDITIONAL VICTIM to the woman doing the gestating, but it does NOT recognize or grant PERSONHOOD to that fetus.

In fact, in 2012, one of the idiot tea-pary members of congress from Tennessee tried to get a bill AMENDING the VOV Act to INCLUDE personhood. It was called the Fetal Awareness and Personhood Act of 2012.

It was struck down. Failed miserably.

In fact, in regard to this kind of stupidity, groups like Parents Against Personhood have cropped up to fight such legislation.

http://parentsagainstpersonhood.com/

THEY on the other hand, are NOT failing.

Thankfully, not EVERYONE is as stupid as you are Lynne.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#276687 Jan 14, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text>There is no way that a woman who kills her own flesh and blood,won't regret it. I think that most will live in denial for a long time though. I think the pain of what they did,will haunt them for the rest of their lives whether or not they admit it or not.
Go google women who finally admitted their guilt and listen to their lifelong stories of self-destruction. They too,once upon a time,denied it too.
The rest,well,they just are evil and live evil lives,so killing ANYONE has no affect on them. No different than any other hard core killers.
How would you know? You claim never to've experienced abortion. How would you know what every woman feels or goes through? Are you every woman?

First you say "won't regret it" then you say "finally admitted their guilt" then you say "live evil lives".

Which one is it? Does every woman regret it or not?

Here's proof positive it's you who is "a mess".

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#276688 Jan 14, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
That is exactly what the law is suggesting. That the ZEF will be treated as a human being, same as its victimized mother, for purposes of sentencing punishment. Just like Ayaka posted.
Exactly. Its for the purposes of adding more charges to the perpetuator of the crimes, and that's ALL its about.

The law recognizes the POTENTAL of the ZEF to BECOME a human being, particularly in the later stages of pregnancy, and its acting ON that potental - but its ONLY acting on that potental as a result of the WOMAN being harmed - and those women USUALLY are wanting those pregnancies to continue.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#276689 Jan 14, 2013
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW Katie, nothing to forgive darling. ;-)
Thank you :)
I look forward to what you find out.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#276690 Jan 14, 2013
Depends on what you call "truth"; everybody has their own truth.

I've known a lot of medical professionals; I worked in the medical field for years. Everyone had different reasons and reactions to to what they did.

What's important to me is that women's civil rights are upheld.
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text>Just wondering if you've done research on those who were former employees of PP? I bet that you're not interested in what they have to say reasos anout what REALLY goes on behind closed doors. After all, these are the abortionist,and staff who performed these thousands of abortions?
You don't care?
Okay. What about the abortionist and staff who STILL are practicing? Are you interested in their stories about the truths behind closed doors?(of course I am referring to those who have revealed much truth because they didn't care). Go google their stories. You just might be surprised. My former MIL worked at PP. She told us the truths. Just so you know,she is still a proabort(that I know of).

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#276692 Jan 14, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text>There is no way that a woman who kills her own flesh and blood,won't regret it. I think that most will live in denial for a long time though. I think the pain of what they did,will haunt them for the rest of their lives whether or not they admit it or not.
You're SO full of shit Skankdawg. The FACT is that many women that lose a pregnancy, whether its naturally or by abortion, simply move on with their lives, and do NOT regret it.

My mom and I had a discussion once about her miscarriage. She told me that knowing what they know now about HER illness,(that the medical community didn't know back then), she was actually THANKFUL that she miscarried - because between the MS and diabetes, and knowing what they also knew about my father's genetic heart conditions in the men in the family - she would NEVER have wished those kinds of health issues onto her child.

Conversely, I know women - some of whom have posted here - who have ALSO said they're not only not sorry they had an abortion, they are THANKFUL they did.

For whatever reason, you have this really sick NEED to inflict YOUR f'd up vision & desire for regret, spiritual misery, shame, depression and more on others.

FORTUNATELY, MOST women dont and wont suffer any such things from having an abortion.

Only a complete idiot like you will hear women tell you THEY DO NOT REGRET their decisions, and ignore that, only to be so insistant on trying to put YOUR words in THEIR mouths.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#276691 Jan 14, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text> Sadly its too late for your people.
I did my part and you are doing your's.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#276693 Jan 14, 2013
Considering the number of sex acts performed daily, it's perectly within the known stats that bc will fail that often--which is still a tiny number of ll sex acts using bc. On te other hand, since women don't have to provide reason to abort, and you don't list what bc methods--including NFP--are used, it's kind of meaningless.
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text>Michele has used NFP for over like 16yrs. She is a proabort too.
FTR,you are being dishonest. There is much success with NFP. Are you aware that over half of abortions done,are done on women who used b/c?
Doesn't sound too effective to me.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#276694 Jan 14, 2013
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
It's human and it's alive. But, it's not independent existence until it's born, and that's when it becomes an individual, or a "human being."
Not even legally, is the fetus a person and Lynne D's continuous vain repetitions of what one law says, doesn't make it so, but for the sole purpose of that law. And that law has a clear an unambiguous exception for a woman's right to kill it and get it the hell out of her uterus, if that's what she wants to do.
That argument hols as much water as the Titanic did. And we know what happened to it.
There was only one point being made and that is that the court considers an unborn baby, a child. A human child.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#276695 Jan 14, 2013
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text>Just wondering if you've done research on those who were former employees of PP? I bet that you're not interested in what they have to say about what REALLY goes on behind closed doors. After all, these are the abortionist,and staff who performed these thousands of abortions?
You don't care?
Okay. What about the abortionist and staff who STILL are practicing? Are you interested in their stories about the truths behind closed doors?(of course I am referring to those who have revealed much truth because they didn't care). Go google their stories. You just might be surprised. My former MIL worked at PP. She told us the truths. Just so you know,she is still a proabort(that I know of).
You think all these people just changed their minds and became PL? It hasn't occurred to you they were sell outs, being paid to saying something? That they had no qualms pandering for the bigger paycheck?

Why don't you start using real language in this "debate"? Until we can agree on the words and definitions, this will not progress. There is no "abortionist" because the physician is called an obstetrician.

There are no "proaborts" because those who think women should decide for themselves whether to keep or terminate their pregnancies are called prochoice.

There is no "abortuary". Abortion means an end to pregnancy prior to term. The pregnant woman will decide what happens to the fetal remains following induced or spontaneous abortion. Perhaps a mortuary is involved or the remains are donated to science or the remains become medical waste. It's up to the woman what to do with these.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#276696 Jan 14, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
I posted that law because Kathynn the Dummy claimed Connor was born when he died. Another PCer went along with him in that. I proved them wrong by showing that law. That law was proving Connor was NOT BORN when he was killed.
That law doesn't prove SHIT about whether Connor was born or not when they were killed.

In fact, the autopsy reports stated they could NOT say if he'd been born or not.

The law was in response to the crime and other crimes like it you moron, NOT to whether or not he was murdered before OR after he was born.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#276697 Jan 14, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>

I provided a law that substantiated he died before he was born.
Laws dont determine when someone's died you STUPID SHIT! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Lynne, you show how ignorant you are in SO Many ways, and you dont even know it!

Its HYSTERICAL!
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#276698 Jan 14, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Laws dont determine when someone's died you STUPID SHIT! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
Lynne, you show how ignorant you are in SO Many ways, and you dont even know it!
Its HYSTERICAL!
If he didn't die in the womb then we wouldn't have needed a law.
bman

Commack, NY

#276699 Jan 14, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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Believe it or not, I actually agree that teens, especially girls, since they have to cope with the burdens of teen pregnancy, would better off avoiding sex entirely until they have, at the very least, graduated from high school.
I wrote this a few months ago, as a kind of "public service" post:
**********
This might help girls see the difference between the two lifestyles of being a free teenager and being a teen mom BEFORE they make the mistake of having sex and possibly ending up pregnant.
If you or anyone can think of more benefits of lifestyle #1 or negatives of lifestyle #2, please go ahead and add them.
LIFESTYLE #1 - LIFE AS A FREE TEENAGER:
- Keeping up grades, studying, doing homework
- Participating in after-school activities
- Going to school dances and parties
- Relaxing during summer vacation
- Having fun at the junior or senior prom
- Graduating high school and attending after-graduation parties
- Attending college or vocational training after high school with no restrictions
LIFSTYLE #2 - LIFE AS A TEEN MOM:
- Missing school, falling behind in classes
- Getting up two or three times at night to feed a baby
- Endless diaper changes, including stinky ones
- Losing friends who don't want to be around crying babies
- Staying home with a crying baby while friends are out having fun
- Missing high school graduation, or even having to drop out of school
- Settling for part-time, low-income or minimum-wage employment instead of a dream job/career
As a teenager who is happily NOT pregnant, which lifestyle do YOU want? Wouldn't you rather have the first lifestyle instead of the second?
You can keep Lifestyle #1 very easily, just by staying sexfree (meaning free FROM sex) and saying NO to any guy who pressures you to have sex. If your boyfriend says he'll break up with you if you won't have sex with him, don't cave in. Break up with HIM instead.
Keeping your freedom to BE a teenager; there's no better reason to say NO.
FINALLY, someone who has some common sense. While I disagree with your veiws on abortion, I like your post and I hope that in the future, teens will respect each other, and that they won't fall into peer pressure to have sex too early.
Katie

Seattle, WA

#276700 Jan 14, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
If he didn't die in the womb then we wouldn't have needed a law.
It's an unknown regarding Conner, Ink. Prior to this, most ZEFs were unrecognized by the courts and so was the woman's and/or family's loss.

The Victims of Violence Act or Conner's Law can be seen as a legal compromise. I know the PLM thinks of it as a weapon, but it's not meant to be.

PC see it more as further protecting women's civil rights to determine the outcome of her pregnancy. And now a wanted pregnancy ruined by a 3rd party is recognized in those states who've passed this.
bman

Commack, NY

#276701 Jan 14, 2013
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit. The Victims of Violence Act of 2004 does not trump Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade does not make such reference to life in uteri. BTW, it's in uteri, not in utero you dumb shit. Learn proper Latin medical terms. Did they not teach you that in "Honorary Medical School?"
Roe v. Wade protects a woman's right to abort. The Act protects a woman's right to carry to term by embellishing on a technicality, the purpose of which is mainly to give your kind a $.10 lolly pop, while Roe v. Wade gives our kind Key Lime Pie.
Go on and prove me wrong.
HA! So you're saying that just a "choice" can all of a sudden redefine a fetus as human or inhuman? In fact, Planned Paranthood was against this act when it was signed because they knew that this act would hurt the pro-choice argument and that the fetus shouldn't be counted as murder because the law clearly states that a pregnant woman killed with her unborn child would be considered a double-homicide. Do you suppoert this act? Because if you do, you're saying that a fetus should be counted as a human (double homicide means two PEOPLE getting killed). If the fetus WAS part of the woman before birth, it would be considered one casualty instead of two.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#276702 Jan 14, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Keep your day job because you don't have a feel for humor.
Poor baby...getting snarky because you once again made a jackass of yourself.

“Never give up”

Since: Dec 12

Avon, OH

#276703 Jan 14, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
You're SO full of shit Skankdawg. The FACT is that many women that lose a pregnancy, whether its naturally or by abortion, simply move on with their lives, and do NOT regret it.
My mom and I had a discussion once about her miscarriage. She told me that knowing what they know now about HER illness,(that the medical community didn't know back then), she was actually THANKFUL that she miscarried - because between the MS and diabetes, and knowing what they also knew about my father's genetic heart conditions in the men in the family - she would NEVER have wished those kinds of health issues onto her child.
Conversely, I know women - some of whom have posted here - who have ALSO said they're not only not sorry they had an abortion, they are THANKFUL they did.
For whatever reason, you have this really sick NEED to inflict YOUR f'd up vision & desire for regret, spiritual misery, shame, depression and more on others.
FORTUNATELY, MOST women dont and wont suffer any such things from having an abortion.
Only a complete idiot like you will hear women tell you THEY DO NOT REGRET their decisions, and ignore that, only to be so insistant on trying to put YOUR words in THEIR mouths.
Ask them the same question in the future, when they are on their deathbed, and I bet you'll get a different answer from them.

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