Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Morgana 9 wrote:
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I ENTIRELY support a WOMANS right to choose, if she chooses abortion SO BE IT!!...
If men, and just men, were to fight for the right to shoot at any animal that comes into their yard, be it birds, squirrels, rabbits, deer, dogs, cats, etc., and the US Supreme granted them that right, should members of PETA try to persuade men to stop doing this and also, should members of PETA try to get the US Supreme Court to reverse their decision to give men this right?

If so, why?

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Well, which one is it?
Do I have an opinion or not?
Look I realize humans make mistakes, and I am in no position to correct you, even though if I were to do this, then the kill all crowd would be all over it. Lol
Abortion is killing, even CD, says so.
It is the killing of innocence (which is murder)
Yet thankfull Jesus died for All Sin.
For many I wish I were wrong, butj after going from who I was, to who I am now, I have No doubt whatsoever, that God is real.
Many religions, in which people go through dead works and rituals, but I serve the only living God.
Let God be true and every man a liar.
When have I written that you have no opinion. What the hell are you ranting about, crazy boy?

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For the "christian" extremists who think that girls and women were well treated in past American history, I think it's time for a little reminder of some facts you probably don't want to see mentioned on a public forum. Too bad. The fact is, we had an American version of Sharia Law in the 19th century. At the beginning of the 19th century in America --
-- Girls got much less education than boys did.
-- Girls' activities, especially for middle- and upper-class girls, were limited to "ladylike" pursuits.
-- Girls and women were considered naturally weaker and inferior to boys and men.
-- It was thought shocking, outrageous, and even scandalous for a woman to give a speech in public, especially to audiences of both men and women.
-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to confine their activities to a "separate sphere" or their homes. Women were also expected to show the "virtues" of religious piety, wifely submission, and motherly domesticity. And they always had to be escorted outside their homes by a man.
-- Married women had NO legal rights, including to own property, keep their inherited money, enter into contracts, sign legal documents, or control what happened to their wages or their children.
-- Women who were single or had to earn money had very few job opportunities and were always paid less than men who did the same job.
-- Middle- and upper-class women were expected to wear layers of restrictive and heavy clothing, and corsets that were so tight that many women suffered health problems as a result.
-- Almost a million African women were chattel slaves.
-- Women were not allowed to vote.
-- Married women had no choices over their reproductive process. Any woman who got married was expected to produce children, whether she WANTED to be a mother or not.
In addition to the above, as if that weren't oppressive enough, conservative men of the 19th and early 20th century opposed every measure that improved women's lives, especially a woman's right to vote. THAT'S what the 19th century feminists fought so hard to change, and eventually succeeded in doing so, even though it took 72 years, from 1848 to 1920, to achieve that goal. The shame was that it took that long for women to GET that right to vote in the first place.
But .... but Ocean! That's EXACTLY how most of these freaks WANT it to be!

Except of course when it comes to THEM PERSONALLY that is.

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Absolutely. Especially the kind of "christianity" displayed by the imbecilic members of the militant religionist kooks club.
AKA: Jackasses for Jesus

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So, men should be content with waiting for a family until the women are good and ready for one, is that it? Gee, that's sounds fair.
You women are no different from men. Both men and women want to do their own thing in life and want the other gender to change their plans so our own plans can be fulfilled first.
What we all should try to do is compromise.
Actually, women and men seem to be okay with being free to live their lives as they choose. I have attended seven weddings this year and at least five baby showers, even though I have a fairly small social circle. I'm sorry that you are having trouble finding a partner, but don't assume everyone else is in your boat. Chin up, buddy!
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Who cares?

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NR: "Preborn baby is clearly affected by abortion...to death."
FooManSpew: "Yes dear, that IS the point of abortion."
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
Yes No Relevance. That IS the point. Did you think ANYONE, including EVERY WOMAN THAT HAS ONE does NOT realise this?

Thank you for repeating it obsessively. Just in case ANYONE was unsure, lets make it even MORE clear, shall we?

Ladies and Gentlemen!

Be prepared for a NEWSFLASH!!

If you are planning to have an abortion, you are ending ****gasp*** YOUR PREGNANCY!

I know, its a shock, but that's what you're doing.***WHEW*** Now that we got that SPOILER out of the way, lets continue:

More - you're ending the possiblity of THIS pregnancy. You're killing the zygote, embryo or non-viable fetus that you either dont want to begin with, or for WHATEVER reason - cannot have.

But lets be clear, IF YOU'VE BEEN EDUCATED about it, you're making one of only three choices you have, and WHATEVER CHOICE YOU MAKE, ITS OKAY. You have the legal and moral right to make the best and most responsible decision FOR YOU.

Another newsflash coming ....... wait for it.......

IT AINT NOBODY ELSES BUSINESS WHAT DECISION YOU MAKE. YOU OWE NOBODY <<<let me repeat that>>> YOU DONT OWN ANYONE ANY EXPLAINATIONS NOR DO YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY YOUR DECISION TO ANYONE, ESPECIALLY YAHOO'S LIKE THESE FOOLS THAT DONT KNOW YOU FROM ADAM AND WHO WONT BE AFFECTED IN ANY WAY BY YOUR CHOICE.

IF THEY DONT LIKE IT, FUCK 'EM!

Now phony religous idiots like No Relevance, Skanky, Knutbar, Inkstain, and others here like Lyin Lynne will tell you that you're murderers, you're going to hell, and anything else they can think that's hateful, spiteful, and negative.

See the second newsflash above and respond accordingly.

OH! And know, that LITERALLY millions of Americans have and will continue to fight for your right to CONTINUE to make your OWN MEDICAL CHOICES.

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So, men should be content with waiting for a family until the women are good and ready for one, is that it? Gee, that's sounds fair.
Feel free to try to gestate yourself you moron.

Knock yourself out. Literally.
What we all should try to do is compromise.
When you grow a womb and can gestate yourself, you get to make that call. Until then, deal with REALITY.

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"Me my me I I myself me me I I me myself I me me..." - Ocean56
Now you're getting it No Relevance. Its NOT ABOUT YOU.

Deal with it child.

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BraveCon wrote:
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Its important to point out that trying to persuade women not to have abortions is not 'forcing women not to have abortions'. Do you understand that?
Also, when has our government ever 'forced' women to get pregnant? Women getting pregnant and then not wanting a baby is a problem that was forced upon on government. I doubt our government ever wanted to have to deal with this issue.
The US Supreme Court finally had to deal with this issue and in 1973 they decided to give women the right to murder the fetus/baby growing in their womb. Before this fateful decision, abortion was considered murder and was a crime. That abortion/murder is a crime is not an exclusive Christian dogma. Every religion and culture has it in their dogma that murder is a crime and most of them at one time considered abortion to be crime.
I feel sorry for all the girls and women who grow up in a nation that tells them that abortion is not murder/crime. You women have a self-assured confidence that you're doing nothing wrong when you have an abortion. I hope that one day you will step out of your Pro-Choice box and look at abortion with a different perspective, starting with the question 'could abortion actually be murder?'
Dude, really you need to do your research before making a statement concerning history.
Abortion has been legal in our history more than it has been illegal.

"Abortion was frequently practiced in North America during the period from 1600 to 1900. Many tribal societies knew how to induce abortions. They used a variety of methods including the use of black root and cedar root as abortifacient agents. During the colonial period, the legality of abortion varied from colony to colony and reflected the attitude of the European country which controlled the specific colony. In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening. In the French colonies abortions were frequently performed despite the fact that they were considered to be illegal. In the Spanish and Portuguese colonies abortion was illegal. From 1776 until the mid-1800s abortion was viewed as socially unacceptable; however, abortions were not illegal in most states. During the 1860s a number of states passed anti-abortion laws. Most of these laws were ambiguous and difficult to enforce. After 1860 stronger anti-abortion laws were passed and these laws were more vigorously enforced. As a result, many women began to utilize illegal underground abortion services. Although abortion was legalized in 1970, many women are still forced to obtain illegal abortion or to perform self-abortions due to the economic constraints imposed by the Hyde Amendment and the unavailability of services in many areas. Throughout the colonial period and during the early years of the republic, the abortion situation for slave women was different than for other women. Slaves were subject to the rules of their owners, and the owners refused to allow their slaves to terminate pregnancies. The owners wanted their slaves to produce as many children as possible since these children belonged to the slave owners. This situation persisted until the end of the slavery era."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10297561

It was legal when the Constitution was written, which is probably why the framers didn't feel it necessary to include "the freedom to make personal medical decisions up to the individual" in the Bill of Rights. Maybe they thought it was pretty self evident. But then I guess they didn't know too many evangelical christians and what jackarses they could be.

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I wonder if the pro-aborts here would agree with ripping the growing and developing fetuses in their pets' wombs if they were pregnant ...
Nah, they wouldn't.
Have a marvelous New Year everyone!

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May I ask why you hate men?
did you ever have a good male role model in your life?
I'm not saying what others write, is right, but a family must have a head, and God made the head of the family, the man.
Are men doing a good job? No, not even close in many cases, but men are not all to blame.
We live in a world where men are cast as idiots.
Women were suppose to care for the home, and that is a FULL TIME JOB.
In a perfect home, the man works outside and provides for His family, and the woman works inside the home (which is just as important), to clean, raise kids, and be the keeper of Her house and home.
Yes men have messed up, but now instead of the family comming together at the end of the day, as a unit, we have both parents working, babies are dropped of, to a stranger to raise, and everyone comes home to a dirty house, with dirty clothes, and nothing cooked, plus dirty dishes.
We live in a mess.
That would be a perfect home , but since we choose to buy homes and cars we can't afford, we sell our family down the stream.
If a man is doing his job, and a woman hers, then you have a happy family, but where there is no leader, things get messed up.
Just like today.
Plus now we have factories, where men work with women, and the divorce rate keeps climbing.
We have forsaken God, for house's and cars, and wonder why we are in such a mess.
Tell me do you put on a cardigan sweater, light up your pipe before talking to your son in the den about something he did that was wrong?

How's the little Beav doing these days? Does June still wear that apron all the time?

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Gtown71 wrote:
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May I ask why you hate men?
did you ever have a good male role model in your life?
I'm not saying what others write, is right, but a family must have a head, and God made the head of the family, the man.
Are men doing a good job? No, not even close in many cases, but men are not all to blame.
We live in a world where men are cast as idiots.
Women were suppose to care for the home, and that is a FULL TIME JOB.
In a perfect home, the man works outside and provides for His family, and the woman works inside the home (which is just as important), to clean, raise kids, and be the keeper of Her house and home.
Yes men have messed up, but now instead of the family comming together at the end of the day, as a unit, we have both parents working, babies are dropped of, to a stranger to raise, and everyone comes home to a dirty house, with dirty clothes, and nothing cooked, plus dirty dishes.
We live in a mess.
That would be a perfect home , but since we choose to buy homes and cars we can't afford, we sell our family down the stream.
If a man is doing his job, and a woman hers, then you have a happy family, but where there is no leader, things get messed up.
Just like today.
Plus now we have factories, where men work with women, and the divorce rate keeps climbing.
We have forsaken God, for house's and cars, and wonder why we are in such a mess.
Wow... just, wow.

I'm sorry you are disappointed with life, honey. It's up to you to improve your own existence. Maybe if you stopped whining, you'd see that and do something about it.

Women are not going back to the dark ages. You are wishing away time that could be spent more productively.

Good luck and Happy New Year.

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No Relativism wrote:
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I think we all know what causes pregnancy.
Yes we do No Relevance, and thankfully, its not something you'll EVER have to worry about, since no rational woman would come within a mile of your nasty ass.

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No Relativism wrote:
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Did your son & daughter have a nice Christmas?
Oh.
That's right.
You killed your daughter.
For the record, she never had a daugher and never killed anyone.

Does your version of "g-d" approve of your outright lies No Relevance?

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Jeb Wilson wrote:
dam man thats harsh. maybe the new year will bring you a better attitude. since no one is a killer on here.
Uh oh. NOW you've done it. Now you're going to be treated to a lecture on the harshness of a medcial decsion that is none of his business to begin with.

Just so you know, harsh is all he's got, because rational left him at the station a LONG time ago.
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elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>When have I written that you have no opinion. What the hell are you ranting about, crazy boy?
In the post, just before you posted, that I have an opinion, so people can read , if they truly care which one of us is "crazy ".

I vote neither, just two humans that disagree :)

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Gtown71 wrote:
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May I ask why you hate men?
did you ever have a good male role model in your life?
I'm not saying what others write, is right, but a family must have a head, and God made the head of the family, the man.
Are men doing a good job? No, not even close in many cases, but men are not all to blame.
We live in a world where men are cast as idiots.
Women were suppose to care for the home, and that is a FULL TIME JOB.
In a perfect home, the man works outside and provides for His family, and the woman works inside the home (which is just as important), to clean, raise kids, and be the keeper of Her house and home.
Yes men have messed up, but now instead of the family comming together at the end of the day, as a unit, we have both parents working, babies are dropped of, to a stranger to raise, and everyone comes home to a dirty house, with dirty clothes, and nothing cooked, plus dirty dishes.
We live in a mess.
That would be a perfect home , but since we choose to buy homes and cars we can't afford, we sell our family down the stream.
If a man is doing his job, and a woman hers, then you have a happy family, but where there is no leader, things get messed up.
Just like today.
Plus now we have factories, where men work with women, and the divorce rate keeps climbing.
We have forsaken God, for house's and cars, and wonder why we are in such a mess.
What part of I don't give a flying fck that YOUR religion THINKS women NEED a "HEAD" MALE to LEAD WOMEN??????????
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Gtown71 wrote:
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In the post, just before you posted, that I have an opinion, so people can read , if they truly care which one of us is "crazy ".
I vote neither, just two humans that disagree :)
You misread her post. She said you pontificate on your emotions, that you have an opinion, that it's not based on facts.

She's right. Hope you saw the link regarding the history of abortion. Since you're ignoring me and all.

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Breaking: Two blood clots in Hillary Clinton's groin determined to be testicles.
Ah! She got the balls you never had.

GOOD FOR HER!

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