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Ink

Bensalem, PA

#268474 Dec 5, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Now post the REST OF WHAT WAS SAID you lying by omission sack of shit.
And if you actually read for comprehension and context - I've BEEN saying they do NOT DO EULOGY'S DURING THE MASS.
The shit you just posted even says "AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MASS", of course if you posted the REST Of the paragraph you and Lynne delted, it would be noted that the OCF forbids it.
Of course, the RCC seems to have "loopholes" for everything. They certainly did for the hundreds of molesting priests.
You are mistaken.

One might ask oneself, if the Church prohibits eulogies at funerals, how is it that we might have four speakers deliver a series of eulogies? There is a small loophole in that the Order of Christian Funerals does allow that,“A member or a friend of the family may speak in remembrance of the deceased before the Final Commendation begins.”(OCF # 170). However, if a family member or friend speaks, the ritual intends for this to happen after Communion at the conclusion of the Mass while the priest and ministers are standing at the coffin about to begin the Final Commendation. The words are expected to be very brief, highlighting an aspect of the life of faith of the deceased.

They are done after communion and before the Final Commendation. Both of these things take place at the end of Mass but they are still both part of the funeral mass. It says 'at' the conclusion not 'after' the conclusion. There is a difference.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#268475 Dec 5, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is what other women do with their own bodies so important to you?
Like I care what you do with your boby. Don't flatter yourself.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#268476 Dec 5, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
...... "keep QUITE" huh?
Seems you and the Skank have the same spelling impediment.
Minor problem. Miss spelling nazi. You have several problems you could work on.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#268477 Dec 5, 2012
Kathwynn wrote:
<quoted text>
I am on point.. You just hate it when you are called on being a fool. Deal with it. You have no real idea of what is going on out there.
Which brings up a point. Why did you allow your daughter to marry an atheist? hmm... Why did she move clear across the country?
Yeah, I will bet there is a lot more to all this than anyone wants to know.
You implied you knew a lot more. You don't.. All you have is phone conversations that really mean nothing.
You are not worth anymore conversation on this subject. Your ability to understand is non existant. Have a good day.
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#268480 Dec 5, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>It's not going to say D&C for miscarriage in any medical record. It's going to say therapeutic D&C for (type of abortion). It's going to be transcribed and coded that way also. There is no difference in the steps the physician takes to terminate the pregnancy.
AyakaNeo: "It's not going to say D&C for miscarriage in any medical record. It's going to say therapeutic D&C for (type of abortion). It's going to be transcribed and coded that way also."
__________

Encounter for elective termination of pregnancy
ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code Z33.2
Z33.2 is a specific ICD-10-CM code that can be used to specify a diagnosis.

Excludes:
Early fetal death with retention of dead fetus
Late fetal death
Spontaneous abortion

http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/Z00-Z9...
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#268481 Dec 5, 2012
sassyliciouus wrote:
<quoted text> "childen have parents who not only respect G-d, but their children and each other ALWAYS find a way to help their children find THEIR way "
How does one "respect " God? By following him and his commandments. Saying you believe in a God is meaningless if you don't obey him. You MUST lead by example and traditions only doesn't cut it.
Kids learn by exsmple after they're instructed.
You mock Christ. You claim that it is the "extremist "that you are mocking but your words attack God and Jesus. You also advocate, condone and justify killing whom he willed and then, created in the womb.
Your daughter has no stability in your home. She was taught traditions..and thats it.
As a Christian, and faith in Christ is black and white.

One parent teaches the Jesus is your Lord and Savior and the other parent says He isn't and He probably didn't even exist. I seems that the child isn't vested in either religion enough to make a meaningful decision. She probably shirts the edges of both religions and has no real allegience to either.
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#268482 Dec 5, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>It's not going to say D&C for miscarriage in any medical record. It's going to say therapeutic D&C for (type of abortion). It's going to be transcribed and coded that way also. There is no difference in the steps the physician takes to terminate the pregnancy.
ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code: Spontaneous abortion O03-

The natural premature expulsion from the uterus of the products of conception, the embryo, or non-viable fetus.

Loss of the products of conception from the uterus before the fetus is viable; spontaneous abortion.

Expulsion of the products of conception before the completion of gestation without deliberate interference.

*Note
Incomplete abortion includes retained products of conception following spontaneous abortion

Includes:
Miscarriage

http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/O00-O9... -
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#268483 Dec 5, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>It's not going to say D&C for miscarriage in any medical record. It's going to say therapeutic D&C for (type of abortion). It's going to be transcribed and coded that way also. There is no difference in the steps the physician takes to terminate the pregnancy.
Encounter for elective termination of pregnancy
ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code Z33.2

Z33.2 is a specific ICD-10-CM code that can be used to specify a diagnosis.

Excludes:
early fetal death with retention of dead fetus
late fetal death
spontaneous abortion

http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/Z00-Z9...
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#268484 Dec 5, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>It's not going to say D&C for miscarriage in any medical record. It's going to say therapeutic D&C for (type of abortion). It's going to be transcribed and coded that way also. There is no difference in the steps the physician takes to terminate the pregnancy.
Complications following (induced) termination of pregnancy ICD-10 code O04-

Abortion brought on intentionally.

Excludes:
Encounter for elective termination of pregnancy, uncomplicated Z33.2
Failed attempted termination of pregnancy (O07.-

Includes:
complications following (induced) termination of pregnancy

http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/O00-O9... -
_________

Failed attempted termination of pregnancy ICD-10 code O07-

Excludes
Incomplete spontaneous abortion O03.0-

Includes
Failure of attempted induction of termination of pregnancy
Incomplete elective abortion

http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/O00-O9... -
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#268485 Dec 5, 2012
Note: ICD-10 codes take effect in 2013.

They are converted from today's ICD-9 codes. For example:
__________
ICD-9-CM Diagnosis Code 634.81
Spontaneous abortion, with unspecified complication, incomplete
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/...

Becomes...

ICD-10 Unspecified complication following incomplete spontaneous abortion O03.30

http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/O00-O9...
__________
__________

Other ICD-9 codes converted to ICD-10 (which I previously posted):

ICD-9-CM Diagnosis Code 779.6 Termination of pregnancy (fetus)

Deliberate termination of pregnancy, generally through the use of surgical procedures or drugs.

Short description: Termination of pregnancy.

http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/760-779/...
_________

ICD-9-CM Diagnosis Code 634.81 Spontaneous abortion, with unspecified complication, incomplete

http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/...
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#268486 Dec 5, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not going to say D&C for miscarriage in any medical record. It's going to say therapeutic D&C for (type of abortion). It's going to be transcribed and coded that way also. There is no difference in the steps the physician takes to terminate the pregnancy.
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
Complications following (induced) termination of pregnancy ICD-10 code O04-
Abortion brought on intentionally.
Excludes:
Encounter for elective termination of pregnancy, uncomplicated Z33.2
Failed attempted termination of pregnancy (O07.-
Includes:
complications following (induced) termination of pregnancy
http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/O00-O9... -
_________
Failed attempted termination of pregnancy ICD-10 code O07-
Excludes
Incomplete spontaneous abortion O03.0-
Includes
Failure of attempted induction of termination of pregnancy
Incomplete elective abortion
http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/O00-O9... -
NR? You do realize you've confirmed what Ayaka posted regarding coding the procedures. Don't you?

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#268489 Dec 5, 2012
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
NR? You do realize you've confirmed what Ayaka posted regarding coding the procedures. Don't you?
Looks like he forgot what he was arguing about, in the first place. In the meantime, abortion remains legal and safe. Thank God:-)
Googleicious

Syracuse, NY

#268491 Dec 5, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
Note: ICD-10 codes take effect in 2013.
They are converted from today's ICD-9 codes. For example:
__________
ICD-9-CM Diagnosis Code 634.81
Spontaneous abortion, with unspecified complication, incomplete
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/...
Becomes...
ICD-10 Unspecified complication following incomplete spontaneous abortion O03.30
http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/O00-O9...
__________
__________
Other ICD-9 codes converted to ICD-10 (which I previously posted):
ICD-9-CM Diagnosis Code 779.6 Termination of pregnancy (fetus)
Deliberate termination of pregnancy, generally through the use of surgical procedures or drugs.
Short description: Termination of pregnancy.
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/760-779/...
_________
ICD-9-CM Diagnosis Code 634.81 Spontaneous abortion, with unspecified complication, incomplete
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/630-679/...
Thank you for confirming AyakaNeo's posts.
Googleicious

Syracuse, NY

#268492 Dec 5, 2012
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
NR? You do realize you've confirmed what Ayaka posted regarding coding the procedures. Don't you?
I'm sorry I didn't read ahead. LOL
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#268493 Dec 5, 2012
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Looks like he forgot what he was arguing about, in the first place. In the meantime, abortion remains legal and safe. Thank God:-)
NR shoulda C&Ped this page specifically since he's so willing to prove Ayaka right. He coulda saved everyone the trouble of posting yesterday with this one page out of the links he just suppliled.

"2012 ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code O03.9

Complete or unspecified spontaneous abortion without complication

•O03.9 is a billable ICD-10-CM code that can be used to specify a diagnosis.
•On October 1, 2013 ICD-10-CM will replace ICD-9-CM in the United States, therefore, O03.9 and all ICD-10-CM diagnosis codes should only be used for training or planning purposes until then.

Applicable To
•Miscarriage NOS
•Spontaneous abortion NOS

Mortality Data
•Between 1999-2007 there were 9 deaths in the United States where ICD-10 O03.9 was indicated as the underlying cause of death [source: cdc.gov link to cdc.gov ]
•ICD-10 O03.9 as underlying cause of death data broken down by: gender, age, race, year

ICD-10-CM O03.9 is part of Diagnostic Related Group(s)(MS-DRG v28.0):
•770 Abortion with d&c, aspiration curettage or hysterotomy
•779 Abortion without d&c

Convert ICD-10-CM O03.9 to ICD-9-CM

The following ICD-10-CM Index entries contain back-references to ICD-10-CM O03.9:•Abortion(complete)(spon taneous) O03.9
•Miscarriage O03.9
•Threatened

abortion O20.0

with subsequent abortion O03.9"

http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/O00-O9...
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#268494 Dec 5, 2012
Googleicious wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry I didn't read ahead. LOL
Funny :)

(I just posted a hidden treasure from NR. Bet he's gonna be mad)
No Relativism

Huntington, IN

#268495 Dec 5, 2012
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
NR? You do realize you've confirmed what Ayaka posted regarding coding the procedures. Don't you?
1. Ayaka's contention that "miscarriage" is not a medical term used in documention was incorrect.

2. Proaborts here tried desperately to conflate spontaneous & induced abortions. They are both clearly different & deliniated as such; one occurs naturally, the other is the intentional killing of the human being in utero. You'll have to find a different means of ineffectually soothing your guilt.
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#268496 Dec 5, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Ayaka's contention that "miscarriage" is not a medical term used in documention was incorrect.
2. Proaborts here tried desperately to conflate spontaneous & induced abortions. They are both clearly different & deliniated as such; one occurs naturally, the other is the intentional killing of the human being in utero. You'll have to find a different means of ineffectually soothing your guilt.
It is, too, correct. Don't be inclined to think the coding specifies (with its number sequence) between induced and spontaneous abortions. It also goes further and specifies threatened abortions and complete abortions. But thanks for proving all of us right, NR. Yay you!
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#268497 Dec 5, 2012
Errr...

...don't be SO inclined...
Katie

Puyallup, WA

#268498 Dec 5, 2012
bummer -- I blew my own attempt at sarcasm.

the sentence should read -- don't be so inclined to think the coding doesn't specify (with its number sequence) between induced and spontaneous abortions.

thus concludes my ocd)(

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