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“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#267269 Dec 1, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Yeah, I should have elaborated on that. I'm pretty sure most normal Chrisitans know that Jesus, IF he existed at all, wasn't born on December 25th LOL
I think most Christians realize it now but I have run across fundies on other forums who shriek "lies!" to people who bring that up. I remember one fundie raving that people were "blaspheming" because they stated that Jesus' actual birth date is unknown.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#267270 Dec 1, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
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Lily to Bitner: "you refused to admit you supported a woman's RIGHT to abortion. Then a year later you admitted you do support a woman's RIGHT to abortion."
Bitner's a mess.
Nonsense. Refusing to word my position in the specific words, just because Dic demanded I word it that way, was not a lie. I never said I don't support a woman's RIGHT to have an abortion, just like I never said I don't support a woman's RIGHT to continue her pregnancy. Therefore, I didn't lie. And my position supports her RIGHTS, not the choices themselves. It's really very simple.

LynneD's the mess.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#267271 Dec 1, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
Foo to Sassy: Animals are worth MUCH MORE than your kind are.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...
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Again, Foo's example did not teach her adopted daughter Judaism. She taught her daughter how to hate.
Ink wrote: <quoted text> "I really don't have a problem with you liberals aborting yourselves into oblivion and extinction."

Stop the hypocrisy.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#267272 Dec 1, 2012
There's seems to be another faux-Christian meltdown taking place.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#267273 Dec 1, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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When my kids asked questions about God and religion I would frame my answers as "some people believe..." this or that, and would tell them about my parents Christian beliefs and where they came from. Inevitably I would get questions about why the Baptists/Congregationalists/Mo rmons/Jews/Wiccans etc. are different. I would explain that they all believe in God (in some form) but in different ways, or that they worship in different ways. I would explain that nobody has seen God and that religious stories and beliefs get passed down from generation to generation. But I also tell them straight out that atheist or not I do not believe in Hell and I don't believe in sin. People will do both bad things and good things but I think as we get older we work harder to be better people, we don't just stagnate, we grow. And then I ask my kids what do they think, and both my kids believe there is a God, and that's fine.
Nothing wrong with that :)

My kids are all still Wiccan. However, if they decided to be part of a different religion, or that they were Atheists, it wouldn't matter at all to me. As long as they are happy, what religion they are does not concern me. My parents never said diddly about my religion, except to ask questions about it. They were fine, so long as I was happy. And my kids are all adults, so it's really none of my business.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#267274 Dec 1, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
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If I may: The reason you abhor the example of grandma's head being blown off by a 12-gauge shot gun is because you intentionally & brutally killed your baby girl in your womb.
Wrong, again, Tiny.
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#267277 Dec 1, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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I think most Christians realize it now but I have run across fundies on other forums who shriek "lies!" to people who bring that up. I remember one fundie raving that people were "blaspheming" because they stated that Jesus' actual birth date is unknown.
Where is the birth certificate???

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#267278 Dec 1, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
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No one has the right to kill a baby you fool!
Of course they don't. I never said they did.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#267280 Dec 1, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
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No one has the right to kill a baby you fool!
That is true.
No Relativism

West Lafayette, IN

#267282 Dec 1, 2012
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Can you find the other scenario because I don't think you asked? Sure I can answer it, chemically yes as long as the pregnancy hormone is at a level that is by medical standards pregnant in the early stages. The levels drop off the later the pregnancy. It is not uncommon at all for a woman to get a positive pregnancy test after a miscarriage or abortion. How quickly it leaves the body will vary from woman to woman. If she miscarry's and does not expel the fetus, yes, she's still pregnant, why? because as long as the placenta releases the hormone she will continue with signs of being pregnant.
Was sassy talking about "chemically"?

According to you, a pregnant mother walks into an abortuary, pays a glorified hitman to kill her baby in her womb....a,nd walks out still pregnant?

Interesting..........

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#267283 Dec 1, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
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You are lying, you support abortion, do you remember the 2 other threads where you have lost the debate, your just using that as a cop out.
I haven't lost anything. Certainly not to you, who won't even back up their ridiculous claims with anything other than someone else's opinion on their blog.

I do not support abortion. I support a woman's right to make her own choice regarding her own pregnancy.

I am not lying. I have never said anyone has the right to kill a baby.

You're completely full of shit.
No Relativism

West Lafayette, IN

#267286 Dec 1, 2012
Katie wrote:
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Aren't you usually the militant one insisting nobody has a right to tell you how or what to post? Such a hypocrite.
How are they different medically? Abortion is the end of pregnancy prior to term, according to the medical definition. Abortion is abortion is abortion. If you don't believe it, then research it. Come prepared to dispute with your links already in hand. NR (and now you) is trying to show that intent to end pregnancy prior to term is .......... somehow unjustified, unnecessary, morally wrong, against God, and other subjective reasons that have zero impact on other people's subjective reasons. And that's why you're both insisting D&C is different for spontaneous and induced. That one procedure is the killing machine and the other is the cleaning machine. As if that mattered. What matters is the pregnancy ended prior to term and needs to be complete. The D&C is used as a procedure to do that.
So what do you call a D&C done years following a full term delivery that ends up removing remnants of fetal tissue? Is that technically an abortion of, say, an undeveloped twin not absorbed by the body? Would it be spontaneous or induced?
Will you please explain the following medical terms?

1. Spontanous abortion (miscarriage)

2. Induced abortion

TIA.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#267287 Dec 1, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
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You support a womens right? Do you call abortion womens rights? So are you supporting abortion but saying it is only a womens rights? You sound only 12 to me, get off your mommies computer(Or are you 49 with a low mental age?)
Neither, but obviously YOU are of a "low mental age" when you have to make such a childish attempt to be insulting just because you cannot refute what I say.

Your sentence about my position is incomplete. That is dishonest. I support a woman's right TO MAKE HER OWN CHOICE REGARDING HER OWN PREGNANCY. There, NOW it's right. That is not support of either choice.

Deal with it.
No Relativism

West Lafayette, IN

#267288 Dec 1, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
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Well, you did say that a D&C after a miscarriage is "an abortion procedure", and you were wrong.
Post 262413 in this thread.
Oct. 7, 2012
Foo wrote: "If a woman has a dead fetus in her, then yes, it IS an abortion procedure to get rid of the dead fetal matter."~
No, it's a dilation and curettage procedure as a treatment to prevent infection.
Maybe you should grow up. Calling people, who know more than you about a topic, "cow", makes you look even more stupid than your arguments make you look.
Post 262413 in this thread.
Oct. 7, 2012
Foo wrote: "If a woman has a dead fetus in her, then yes, it IS an abortion procedure to get rid of the dead fetal matter."

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Foo's dumber than a box of mullet hair.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#267289 Dec 1, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
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I gave sources from all over the web, lying turd. Do you know that those 1 in 4 women raped claims were only from Mary Cuss and her pathetic magazine, no where else?
The only source I ever saw from you is that same blog. You later said that your posts with the "evidence" were removed.

The fact is that you didn't prove any of your claims. Not one. You just kept repeating your opinion, and the opinions of the other blogger, over and over again, as though THAT was proof enough. It was, and is, not.
No Relativism

West Lafayette, IN

#267291 Dec 1, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Gee. Perhaps because they're so rare. In 2008, the latest recorded records with the CDC, there were only 12 deaths out of 784,507 abortions.
So what is it you'd like to hear from me about those 12 deaths? Do you know anything about any of those deaths? Were ANY of them from sepsis No Relevance? if so, how many? Who? Under what circumstances did they happen?
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss61...
The number of abortions is down SIGNIFICANTLY from prior years incidently.
Oh and for the question of whether D&C's are used for abortion?
"curettage accounted for 96.4%98.3% of all abortions and then decreased to 94.7% of abortions at 1820 weeks' gestation"
Keep trying to pull shit from your behind and acting like its relevant No Relevance. Its amusing to watch you try. LOL!
Foo: "Under what circumstances did they happen?"

Oh. You don't rush to judgement if women die from infection after an abortion procedure. But, you sure do if pregnant women die in a Catholic hospital.

Hypocrite.
No Relativism

West Lafayette, IN

#267294 Dec 1, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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Gee. Perhaps because they're so rare. In 2008, the latest recorded records with the CDC, there were only 12 deaths out of 784,507 abortions.
So what is it you'd like to hear from me about those 12 deaths? Do you know anything about any of those deaths? Were ANY of them from sepsis No Relevance? if so, how many? Who? Under what circumstances did they happen?
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss61...
The number of abortions is down SIGNIFICANTLY from prior years incidently.
Oh and for the question of whether D&C's are used for abortion?
"curettage accounted for 96.4%98.3% of all abortions and then decreased to 94.7% of abortions at 1820 weeks' gestation"
Keep trying to pull shit from your behind and acting like its relevant No Relevance. Its amusing to watch you try. LOL!
The World Health Organization does not recommend D&C used as abortion proecedure (only recommended if suction is not available). Suction aspiration abortions are much more prevalent than D&C abortion procedures.
No Relativism

West Lafayette, IN

#267296 Dec 1, 2012
Katie wrote:
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So what do you call a D&C done years following a full term delivery that ends up removing remnants of fetal tissue? Is that technically an abortion of, say, an undeveloped twin not absorbed by the body? Would it be spontaneous or induced?
Katie: So what do you call a D&C done years following a full term delivery that ends up removing remnants of fetal tissue? Is that technically an abortion of, say, an undeveloped twin not absorbed by the body? Would it be spontaneous or induced?

Again, please define the following medical terms:

1) Spontaneous abortion

2) Induced abortion

TIA.

{{{ Bangs head against metal door }}}

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#267297 Dec 1, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
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But you still believe abortion isn't murder don't you? Nobody has the right to commit an abortion, useless feministic tween.
Abortion isn't murder. Murder is illegal killing. Abortion is legal. Since you cannot have legal illegal killing, abortion is, in fact, not murder. I don't have to BELIEVE, just know the facts.

No one "commits" abortion. Abortions are performed, by doctors. They are NOT crimes.

And every woman does, indeed, have the right to have one if she chooses, even if you don't like that fact, whiny little boy. The fact is, that what I support is her right to make her own choice regarding her own pregnancy. Nothing more.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#267298 Dec 1, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
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Not all of the sites were blogs you idiot, look it uo yourself, if I can't quote them directly, feministic tweenager.
Again, the only one I saw, WAS that blog. You CLAIMED to have posted more, and then CLAIMED the posts were "removed". I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and related my experience trying to post with a link that Topix didn't like, and told you that may have been what happened to your posts, that they just never posted in the first place. I told you that you should find other links. But I never saw anything BUT the blog.

You have proven nothing. Deal with it, and stop whining like a little baby just because I won't take your word for it.

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