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Scientists studying the changing nature of the Earth's climate say they have completed one crucial task - proving beyond a doubt that global warming is real.

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Since: Mar 09

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#8312 Dec 7, 2016
Dudley wrote:
Climate change is real. If all Democrats in the U.S. would simply give-up their internal combustion engines and walk the carbon footprint of these type automobiles would be reduced with thousands less pounds in particles circulating in our environment. Walk or ride a bicycle and you might reverse climate change. I don't know, it might be to late. You could take a little hand cart or pull a wagon behind your bike to put your stuff in or take your Mom to the Doctor. Please Democrats, show you care and save all of us.
You Republicans need to build a corner store in my neighborhood. It is your capitalistic ideas that put the big box stores out at the edge of the city that cause me to have to have a car.

The idea is that it will take a concerted action that changes how we live to solve the problem. While individual action will absolutely help, it is social policies that will need to be developed to change the way we live in the future.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#8313 Dec 7, 2016
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
You Republicans need to build a corner store in my neighborhood. It is your capitalistic ideas that put the big box stores out at the edge of the city that cause me to have to have a car.
Blame anyone but yourself for your fossil fuel choices.

In fact, Democrats like the Clintons and Obama led the globalization movement, forcing out local business. The Republicans nominated and elected Donald Trump on and antiglobalization platform.

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
The idea is that it will take a concerted action that changes how we live to solve the problem.
Sounds more like a religious problem than a real world problem. Tried and true solutions work, not climate change mitigation pseudoscience. We've always adapted to climate change, nobody has demonstrated the benefits of mitigating climate change.

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
While individual action will absolutely help, it is social policies that will need to be developed to change the way we live in the future.
Go for it, nobody is forcing you to drive to the mall. Take a bus, call a cab, share a ride with a friend. Take some responsibility for your life.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#8314 Dec 8, 2016
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Blame anyone but yourself for your fossil fuel choices.

In fact, Democrats like the Clintons and Obama led the globalization movement, forcing out local business. The Republicans nominated and elected Donald Trump on and antiglobalization platform.

Take some responsibility for your life.
People voted for Trump because they thought he can make capitalism work again. Isolationism is not going to put folks back to work.
IB DaMann

Alexandria, VA

#8315 Dec 8, 2016
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
People voted for Trump because they thought he can make capitalism work again. Isolationism is not going to put folks back to work.
Hmmm, this is a fascinating concept, i.e. Patriot AKA Bozo implying that he understands capitalism better than Trump does.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#8316 Dec 9, 2016
IB DaMann wrote:
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Hmmm, this is a fascinating concept, i.e. Patriot AKA Bozo implying that he understands capitalism better than Trump does.
Interesting that the possibility would be fascinating now instead of considering Trump's abysmal limitations >before< the sheeplings cast their ballots.

Since: Aug 15

Seattle, WA

#8317 Dec 9, 2016
Dudley wrote:
Climate change is real.
The term 'climate change' is a nonsensical term. It doesn't mean anything. You can talk about different climates, but they cannot change. The term 'climate change' is just another attempt by the Church of Global Warming to whitewash itself with a new marketing term.
Dudley wrote:
If all Democrats in the U.S. would simply give-up their internal combustion engines and walk the carbon footprint of these type automobiles would be reduced with thousands less pounds in particles circulating in our environment.
Engines don't add any particles to the environment at all. They simply re-arrange molecules (the 'particle' you are referring to).
Dudley wrote:
Walk or ride a bicycle and you might reverse climate change.
So...you think that CO2 put out by bike riders or pedestrians exerting themselves and producing CO2 doing it is better than the CO2 put out by a car?
Dudley wrote:
I don't know, it might be to late.
Not too late. Global Warming is a religion, perpetuating a religious doctrine.
Dudley wrote:
You could take a little hand cart or pull a wagon behind your bike to put your stuff in or take your Mom to the Doctor. Please Democrats, show you care and save all of us.
Democrats don't care about anybody but themselves. They tend to be very selfish people.

Since: Aug 15

Seattle, WA

#8318 Dec 9, 2016
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
You Republicans need to build a corner store in my neighborhood. It is your capitalistic ideas that put the big box stores out at the edge of the city that cause me to have to have a car.
No one is forcing you to shop at a big box store, dumbass. You want a corner store in your neighborhood? Start one!
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
The idea is that it will take a concerted action that changes how we live to solve the problem.
What problem? That you prefer big box stores and their huge inventories? Heck, some of these places are getting big enough you'll need a car to drive around INSIDE the store. Oh, wait...they already have that.
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
While individual action will absolutely help, it is social policies that will need to be developed to change the way we live in the future.
Dictatorships, oligarchies, or fascism are not desirable futures.

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Since: Aug 15

Seattle, WA

#8319 Dec 9, 2016
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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People voted for Trump because they thought he can make capitalism work again. Isolationism is not going to put folks back to work.
Wrong. People voted for Trump because they are tired of government getting in the way of capitalism. They are tired of the high taxes, the regulations that make it attractive for companies to move abroad, the unfair trade treaties, and the fascism.

Trump is not talking about isolationism. He wants international trade.

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IB DaMann

Aldie, VA

#8320 Dec 9, 2016
ChromiuMan wrote:
Interesting that the possibility would be fascinating now instead of considering Trump's abysmal limitations >before< the sheeplings cast their ballots.
The sheeplings, as you put it, were/are the gullible Democrat voters who let the DNC do their thinking for them, to the point that they believe and regurgitate whatever they are told and they hate on command.

Democrat voters: gullible, manipulated haters.
Well Well

Pomona, CA

#8321 Dec 9, 2016
You want climate change, grow a tree. Make life exist.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#8322 Dec 10, 2016
IB DaMann wrote:
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The sheeplings, as you put it, were/are the gullible Democrat voters who let the DNC do their thinking for them, to the point that they believe and regurgitate whatever they are told and they hate on command.

Democrat voters: gullible, manipulated haters.
I'm not a Democrat, so it isn't like some football rivalry to me. Obviously it is to you. No matter what hate you >feeel< about the DNC coaches and quarterback, it doesn't make The Donald adequate for the position you put him in. He isn't even qualified to be a third stringer.
Since you brought up Hate, just why was it Trump was compelled to directly address his fan base committing >hateful< and bigoted assaults immediately after the election?
According to Facebook, the Trump train posted nearly twice as much disinformation than the Clinton camp. I'm sure you're hot and heavy about "Hillary lied", but I'd bet you're >intentionally< unfamiliar with Trump's fact checker reputation.
Dudley

Carson, CA

#8323 Dec 10, 2016
I'm appalled and dismayed at all the carbon monoxide that's emitted when volcano's erupt. Something needs to be done. Maybe installing huge filters over them or stuffing Al Gore's large butt into one of them might help. Hillary has a large butt also that could be used. Obama's skinny little butt would not block much but let's use him anyway.
Well Well

Pomona, CA

#8324 Dec 10, 2016
A volcanic eruption is more than all the smog in the world. It changes weather patterns. Los Angeles city counsel said fat people are causing earth quakes. Now they changed it to fracking causes earth quakes. The truth is city counsel officials have what looks like egg white all over their face or its pud juice, and when two plates under the earths crust press against each other it causes an earthquake. That's the whole truth. Fat people and fracking, that's like saying Syrian Muslims don't eat baby back ribs and honey baked hams for Christmas.
Always hopeful

Allentown, PA

#8325 Dec 10, 2016
Coral reefs are dying off, the ozone layer is being depleted, some species of animals are in danger of harm or becoming extinct. Our waters are polluted as well as the air we breathe. Regulations have helped to curtail some of the worst effects. But if Trump lifts regulations on water, air and the food we eat, we're going to be in bigger trouble then ever. Climate change is more serious then it ever was because we are a much much larger population then ever before. We keep spewing poisons into the environment everyday and expect that there will be no effects from it? This has been going on for a long time. It makes sense that sooner or later, we were going to reap the effects. It's happen right now and has been going on for some time. If we don't take immediate measures to help protect us from further harm, we may all be doomed to a fate we can't imagine or fathom.

Since: Aug 15

Seattle, WA

#8326 Dec 10, 2016
Always hopeful wrote:
Coral reefs are dying off,
No, they aren't. A few particular reefs have had trouble, but that's all, and not unusual.
Always hopeful wrote:
the ozone layer is being depleted,
No. It can't. We couldn't destroy the ozone layer even if we wanted to.
Always hopeful wrote:
some species of animals are in danger of harm or becoming extinct.
Some always have. A lot fewer these days, fortunately.
Always hopeful wrote:
Our waters are polluted as well
Nowhere near as much as they used to be. People like me cleaned a lot of them up.
Always hopeful wrote:
as the air we breathe.
Nowhere near as much as it used to be. People like me clean a lot of them up.
Always hopeful wrote:
Regulations have helped to curtail some of the worst effects.
They have done almost nothing. They have done harm as well.
Always hopeful wrote:
But if Trump lifts regulations on water, air and the food we eat, we're going to be in bigger trouble then ever.
No. That technology we built is not going to go away. The market demand for modern car engines and even electric cars is not going to go away. The market demand for good food is not going away.
Always hopeful wrote:
Climate change is more serious then it ever was because we are a much much larger population then ever before.
The term 'climate change' is a nonsensical term. Global Warming is an assumed 'catastrophe' with no data to show it's even happening or not.
Always hopeful wrote:
We keep spewing poisons into the environment everyday and expect that there will be no effects from it?
We use poisons for beneficial use. They work.
Always hopeful wrote:
This has been going on for a long time.
Yes it has.
Always hopeful wrote:
It makes sense that sooner or later, we were going to reap the effects.
We already do. We have better food supplies, cleaner water, and even cleaner air, all thanks to poisons.
Always hopeful wrote:
It's happen right now and has been going on for some time. If we don't take immediate measures to help protect us from further harm, we may all be doomed to a fate we can't imagine or fathom.
The End of the World is Nigh. Another religious nut from the Church of Global Warming.

Since: Mar 09

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#8327 Dec 10, 2016
Into The Night wrote:
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No, they aren't. A few particular reefs have had trouble, but that's all, and not unusual.
<quoted text>
No. It can't. We couldn't destroy the ozone layer even if we wanted to.
<quoted text>
Some always have. A lot fewer these days, fortunately.
<quoted text>
Nowhere near as much as they used to be. People like me cleaned a lot of them up.
<quoted text>
Nowhere near as much as it used to be. People like me clean a lot of them up.
<quoted text>
They have done almost nothing. They have done harm as well.
<quoted text>
No. That technology we built is not going to go away. The market demand for modern car engines and even electric cars is not going to go away. The market demand for good food is not going away.
<quoted text>
The term 'climate change' is a nonsensical term. Global Warming is an assumed 'catastrophe' with no data to show it's even happening or not.
<quoted text>
We use poisons for beneficial use. They work.
<quoted text>
Yes it has.
<quoted text>
We already do. We have better food supplies, cleaner water, and even cleaner air, all thanks to poisons.
<quoted text>
The End of the World is Nigh. Another religious nut from the Church of Global Warming.
The reason the air and water were cleaned up was because the government demanded it. Industry could care less.
https://www.epa.gov/tmdl/impaired-waters-and-...

Since: Aug 15

Seattle, WA

#8328 Dec 10, 2016
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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The reason the air and water were cleaned up was because the government demanded it. Industry could care less.
https://www.epa.gov/tmdl/impaired-waters-and-...
No. These regulations were passed AFTER the technology was developed.
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Emerald

Allentown, PA

#8329 Dec 10, 2016
@Into The Night: "The End of the World is Nigh. Another religious nut from the Church of Global Warming."

Unfortunately, you are in denial. Yes, poisons are just about everywhere, including many foods that are GMO produced. The failure to realize what is occurring right under our noses will cause harm in the future and near future as it has already begun, thanks to industry and greedy corporations whose only interest is making money. That appears to also be Trump's main interest. As I've said before, lifting regulations will likely cause more pollution, illnesses and disease.
Talkin To DaDouch

Saint Paul, MN

#8330 Dec 10, 2016
Re:'government regulations':
Into The Night wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
Oh, right. Now THAT'S a compelling use of logic and reason for the purpose of challenging a reasonable thesis, lol!

(You lose)
Into The Night wrote:
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That technology we built is not going to go away. The market demand for modern car engines and even electric cars is not going to go away. The market demand for good food is not going away.
It is cheaper to eschew safe and healthy practices for "good food" than it is to ensure the highest quality of product.(Even a douch-bag like yourself will admit that much). If a product ends up poisoning millions of people ....simply change the lable on the production line and keep right on making a profit. Without gov. regulations there is no insentive to spend resources on ensuring public safety.

One example: look at the pollution in Ohio, and Pennsilvania at the turn of the century ...or China today. Without regulations -that harmful pollution would still be with us.(Someday China will envolke such regulations and when they do (and only when they do ...will the air quality improve -just like the US.)

I know you will agree with me on these facts ....I also know you will start a unrelated subject and us it as a Strawman n to ignore the facts above.

You may begin your douch-baggary...

Since: Aug 15

Seattle, WA

#8331 Dec 10, 2016
Emerald wrote:
@Into The Night: "The End of the World is Nigh. Another religious nut from the Church of Global Warming."

Unfortunately, you are in denial.
If by denial you mean I deny the Church of Global Warming, then yes. I deny that religion. I prefer science.
Emerald wrote:
Yes, poisons are just about everywhere,
Yup. They keep the vermin and pests out of the crops, sanitize our water supplies, clean the air in our homes and are workplaces, sterilize equipment in our hospitals, allow us to create many beneficial chemicals and materials for the benefit of man, allow us to build the computer you are typing on right now, etc.
Emerald wrote:
including many foods that are GMO produced.
The poison is in the fields, not the food, whether GMO or otherwise. GMO foods are not poisonous.
Emerald wrote:
The failure to realize what is occurring right under our noses will cause harm in the future and near future as it has already begun,
harm? Poisons benefit man. That's why we make them.
Emerald wrote:
thanks to industry
You bet.
Emerald wrote:
and greedy corporations
You bet.
Emerald wrote:
whose only interest is making money.
A corporation that does not make money will die. Your only interest is in keeping warm, eating enough, and feeling safe from predators, right? A corporation's food and survival is money.
Emerald wrote:
That appears to also be Trump's main interest.
Good for him!
Emerald wrote:
As I've said before, lifting regulations will likely cause more pollution, illnesses and disease.
Nope. It will help prevent more of them. Industry will be free to develop new ways of combating these problems.

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