Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 64000 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Since: Feb 11

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#42342 Jan 1, 2014
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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There is a war on coal because its cheap and abundant.
Certain people want to have the monopoly on energy and Obama is their slick salesman.
Correct my friend.. This IS the penultimate reason the "liberal" fascists want to control this. This is also why statist creep like tolls, gas taxes, car taxes and ticketing, because they know how this limits people's freedoms.

Fortunately, I know hundreds of people getting just as awake as me and you, my friend. The international fraudsters and liars that are trying to destroy us all will never stop trying, so let's stick together. There is no more war on coals than there is war on poverty . Only slogans from liberals to destroy people and enslave us all within their corporate abyss.

Too bad these people always can count on 30-40% of pure takers to run and vote for them, by promising to rip off the rest of us. Whether you make 200 or 10 bucks an hour, we are all dupees in this world of globalist liars and their mindless zombie cohorts.

Since: Mar 09

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#42343 Jan 1, 2014
VeganTiger wrote:
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"Authorities"? I am giving you some statements here. Just like the earth is round and the sun shines. Everything I have said is something a nine year old can understand.
The arrogant snobbish carbon-bilking elite would never display anything like this.
Anyways, let's return to reality and not your corporate fiction.
Headlines today:
*Global warming activists still stuck on inconvenient ice.
*Globull warming activists ship still stuck on heavy Antarctic ice.
*Global warming on ice
*Global warming activists require record amounts of fossil fuel to get out of waters where melted iceberg is blocking them.
*Global warming researcher gets stuck in ice.
My God, you liberals are so FUNNY! This new year is starting with more madness on steroids displayed by you globalist worshippers. How is it going with activism against China or Russia you fools? Typical to whine, but not dare to challenge the ones who REALLY burn fossil fuels.
Now, if the blizzard lasts, these fools may get an American super-duper "carbon generating" ice breaker, or even better a NUCLEAR one. That should give half the libs on that shop a stroke..
Hahaheheheheheqhhihihih ihhohohohohohohohoh
LMAOROFL, this is too funny...
I think I understand, science is liberal. Anti science is conservative.
litesong

Everett, WA

#42344 Jan 1, 2014
rotten vegetable tiger wrote:
*..... ship still stuck on heavy Antarctic ice.
*Global warming on ice
* stuck in ice.
AGW scientists predicted Antarctic sea ice would increase in 2002, re-confirmed in 2005, & has occurred, as toxic topix AGW deniers like to point out, as if it wasn't an AGW scientific prediction.

You forgot the statement, "...Arctic sea ice has recovered by 60%" after the 2012 Arctic sea ice low record, of which toxic topix AGW deniers gloat that 2013 is so cold! However, it wasn't 60% as crowed about by toxic topix AGW deniers. Multiple errors designed such by toxic AGW deniers, covered the fact that Arctic sea ice AREA only recovered by 35%. A more accurate measure, monthly Arctic sea ice VOLUME compared to average monthly sea ice VOLUME measures since 2010, show only a gain of 15% in volume. Up to December 1 2013, the year, again which toxic topix AGW deniers gloated was so cold, monthly Arctic sea ice VOLUME is only 7% greater than the monthly measures since 2010.
Abolish The Fed

Baltimore, MD

#42345 Jan 1, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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I think I understand, science is liberal. Anti science is conservative.
No science is fact based, liberal science is conjecture on top of conjecture equivalent to double and triple hearsay.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42346 Jan 1, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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I think I understand, science is liberal. Anti science is conservative.
Your understanding of "thinking" is flawed.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42347 Jan 1, 2014
litesong wrote:
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AGW scientists predicted Antarctic sea ice would increase in 2002, re-confirmed in 2005, & has occurred, as toxic topix AGW deniers like to point out, as if it wasn't an AGW scientific prediction.
You forgot the statement, "...Arctic sea ice has recovered by 60%" after the 2012 Arctic sea ice low record, of which toxic topix AGW deniers gloat that 2013 is so cold! However, it wasn't 60% as crowed about by toxic topix AGW deniers. Multiple errors designed such by toxic AGW deniers, covered the fact that Arctic sea ice AREA only recovered by 35%. A more accurate measure, monthly Arctic sea ice VOLUME compared to average monthly sea ice VOLUME measures since 2010, show only a gain of 15% in volume. Up to December 1 2013, the year, again which toxic topix AGW deniers gloated was so cold, monthly Arctic sea ice VOLUME is only 7% greater than the monthly measures since 2010.
Warmists have "science" that predicts all kinds of weather events.

A few years back when hurricanes were more frequent TA DA! "science" that says so.

Now with none to report, TA DA! again... "science" that says so.

So is the past "science" wrong?

Nope... just shelved until that particular event appears again.

But offer "skeptical" science? Warmists will go to all ends to "debunk" it.

As for the Arcic sea ice, isn't it a good thing to have recovered from such a low amount from last year by any amount?

Run along... your writing is tiresome. No one takes you seriously.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42348 Jan 1, 2014
Mothra wrote:
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Curious.... he doesn't make distinction made between decadal vs. century predictions, but you've found it!
Abstract:
Equilibrium climate sensitivity refers to the ultimate change in global mean temperature in response to a change in external forcing.
You might want to look up what those big words mean.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42349 Jan 1, 2014
Mothra wrote:
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Hey look everybody! The zealot is answering the question with a question then lashes out with a whole lot of nonsense..
Gee... convincing isn't he?
A lot more convincing than you.

Have you found out what the building/wind generator ratio is yet?

I thought not.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42350 Jan 1, 2014
VeganTiger wrote:
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"Authorities"? I am giving you some statements here.

Headlines today:
*Global warming activists still stuck on inconvenient ice.
*Globull warming activists ship still stuck on heavy Antarctic ice.
*Global warming on ice
*Global warming activists require record amounts of fossil fuel to get out of waters where melted iceberg is blocking them.
*Global warming researcher gets stuck in ice.

Hahaheheheheheqhhihihih ihhohohohohohohohoh
LMAOROFL, this is too funny...
So, your statements don't have to be factual; you just make them up all by yourself.

Where did you get these headlines? Is there a prize for how many sources I can guess right?

No sources. No scientific sites. Just another idiot on the Internets.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42351 Jan 1, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
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A lot more convincing than you.
.
Zealots are always sure of themselves.

Since: Mar 09

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#42352 Jan 1, 2014
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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No science is fact based, liberal science is conjecture on top of conjecture equivalent to double and triple hearsay.
I have never heard of "liberal science". LOL That must be a buzz phrase the cons use to support their anti-science agenda. How does that compare with "conservative science"? Perhaps Senator Inhofe can clear that up......
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#42353 Jan 1, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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I have never heard of "liberal science". LOL That must be a buzz phrase the cons use to support their anti-science agenda. How does that compare with "conservative science"? Perhaps Senator Inhofe can clear that up......
Just as valid a term as "anti-science".

Deal with it.

Since: Jul 11

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#42354 Jan 1, 2014
LoL "Liberal science" vs "Conservative science" at the risk of being jumped on again making religious analogies. In this case it sounds like politics influences science outcomes not facts. These same deniers rant on about words like "could" & "maybe" also as reason to deny it exists at all. Then in the same breath rigorously defend a religious belief based on the "could" & "maybe"
I would love to know how the thought process differentiates between the two, as well as how did climate change become a liberal idea. Conservatism by nature is "boxed in" thinking. Everything they do is guided by rules even if those rules were wrong in the first place, it can still take decades to correct. Liberalism by nature can work inside the box or outside. If rules block a desired outcome then question the rules as to why. Conservatives leave that until the world collapses before deciding the rules need changing. That is the marked difference between the two types of minds. The same applies with the climate debate, when you have that type of thinking the planet would have to fry before they figured action was needed. Why because at one point some tea bagger somewhere labelled it a liberal idea so the automated rules kick in on conservative minds, it can't be good for us. So in the meantime facts keep piling up on facts only to be ignored.
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#42355 Jan 1, 2014
"The same applies with the climate debate, when you have that type of thinking the planet" would have to freeze (like Antarctica in the heat of the season with 85 team members stranded in ice yet STILL believing that their CO2 is 'cooking' the planet) before they stop ignoring the facts.

Since: Jul 11

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#42356 Jan 1, 2014
B as in B S as in S wrote:
"The same applies with the climate debate, when you have that type of thinking the planet" would have to freeze (like Antarctica in the heat of the season with 85 team members stranded in ice yet STILL believing that their CO2 is 'cooking' the planet) before they stop ignoring the facts.
Meanwhile in that same part of the world in the southern hemisphere, parts of Australia have started the new year in sweltering conditions, with temperatures near 50 degrees Celsius in regional South Australia and a heatwave predicted for Queensland. That's 122 deg F which would just be shy of the previous record in 1960. So much for the ice effect in Antarctica.

As I said previously, you deniers would watch Rome burn before deciding on whether to get a bail of water or not.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42357 Jan 1, 2014
Mothra wrote:
As for the Arcic sea ice, isn't it a good thing to have recovered from such a low amount from last year by any amount?
Go back half a decade in this thread and you'll find deniers saying the same thing.

It wasn't a recovery then and it isn't now.
Anonymous

Sharon Springs, NY

#42358 Jan 1, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Well, it's blindingly obvious! There is no global warming outside your door right now.
You can go back to sleep now.
Well I'm pretty sure global warming doesn't happen in sections or something! Global warming obviously isn't happening because if it was it would be happening everywhere!

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42359 Jan 1, 2014
B as in B S as in S wrote:
"The same applies with the climate debate, when you have that type of thinking the planet" would have to freeze (like Antarctica in the heat of the season with 85 team members stranded in ice yet STILL believing that their CO2 is 'cooking' the planet) before they stop ignoring the facts.
Well done koolaid: quite the stupidest poster on Topix as usual.

Antarctica in the heat of the season, starring Sidney Poitier, Rod Steiger and Warren Oates...

Since: Jul 11

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#42360 Jan 1, 2014
As each winter becomes more severe and each summer becomes hotter. You deniers will still be on here posting, "i can't get out of my driveway, I'm snowed in or flooded whatever happened to global warming"
That is the level of smarts in what threat climate change exists for them.
dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#42361 Jan 1, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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Meanwhile in that same part of the world in the southern hemisphere, parts of Australia have started the new year in sweltering conditions, with temperatures near 50 degrees Celsius in regional South Australia and a heatwave predicted for Queensland. That's 122 deg F which would just be shy of the previous record in 1960. So much for the ice effect in Antarctica.
As I said previously, you deniers would watch Rome burn before deciding on whether to get a bail of water or not.
...of course it is warm in Australia. It is supposed to be warm in Australia this time of year.

Is the point of comments about warm weather an effort to suggest that CAGW is the reason Australia is hot in December and January?
If so... May I suggest that the 25 degrees COLDER than average temperatures in North America (the Midwest) is due to CAGW.

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