Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39898 Sep 28, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>15 years of continued and increased fossil fuel use but no warming to match the models:
There's never been an experimental test of climate change mitigation or man made catastrophic climate change. That's how you can tell climate mitigation is a hoax and man made catastrophic climate change is pseudoscience.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/...
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39899 Sep 28, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>what harm already being experienced? what scientist is on the record for saying that? what harmful event has been connected to good old co2?
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/...

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#39900 Sep 28, 2013
kristy wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not capitalism that causes wealthy to take more than their fair share. If that were the case, then all the dictatorship countries should have a healthy upper middle class. Instead, just two classes, rich and poor. Political class and peasants. We are becoming more like that because government and big corporations have engaged to rig the system with crony capitalism and are driving out the middle class and small businesses and Obama's policies are making it worse.
In the 2009-2010 period, a time of modest economic growth, the top 1 percent of U.S. earners captured 93 percent of all the income growth in the country.
Got that? Now compare it to how the mega-rich made out during the Bush upswing years of 2002 to 2007. During that time, the top 1 percent of earners captured just 65 percent of all the income growth.
That means the rising tide has lifted fewer boats during the Obama years -- and the ones it's lifted have been mostly yachts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/inco...
Duh! But it has little to do with who is President. It is Congress that controls the spending and formulates the laws. It started with the philosophy of the conservatives who contend that helping the affluent trickles down to the rest. Or perhaps the "Oat and Sparrow" theory. Feed the horse good oats and the sparrows can pick what passes through....

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#39901 Sep 28, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Did Holdren then turn to Obama and say, "Mr. President, you could do your part by keeping your family vacations to one plane.
And your little dog too."
No?
Didn't think so.
There you go again, Moth-eaten.... Whinnnnning...
Just more rationalization so you won't feel guilty ignoring the findings of reputable scientists.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39902 Sep 28, 2013
HArm, LIAR? A seies of abrupt events?

#action =share

Wher's tina?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39903 Sep 28, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
HArm, LIAR? A series of abrupt events?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =d14UTXj9RK0XX#action=share
Where's tina?
<corrected for series and where>

WOW. My keyboard locked up with the mention of tina.

Actually, continuous [i.e. rising warmer seas] and abrupt [i.e. floods] events.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39904 Sep 28, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh! But it has little to do with who is President. It is Congress that controls the spending and formulates the laws. It started with the philosophy of the conservatives who contend that helping the affluent trickles down to the rest. Or perhaps the "Oat and Sparrow" theory. Feed the horse good oats and the sparrows can pick what passes through....
<sigh>

An OWS one-percenter whiner.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39905 Sep 28, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again, Moth-eaten.... Whinnnnning...
Just more rationalization so you won't feel guilty ignoring the findings of reputable scientists.
Actually, it's Obama who's ignoring the "reputable" scientists he claims to support.

Do keep up... the conversation is moving, but you're still stuck on petty arguments.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39906 Sep 28, 2013
The global warming propaganda machine started way back in 1988 when James Hansen appeared before Congress with his first dire predictions.

Read how then Congressmen Tim Wirth admits with pride how they scheduled the hearing on typically the hottest day of the year, and opened all the windows in the hearing room the night before the make the room 'hot' for theatrics.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpo...

Political hack.

" Gore was the greatest scholar I've ever seen on the subject."

'nuf said.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39907 Sep 28, 2013
Top policy priorities for 2012

Listing top priorities for Congress and the President

global warming (at the very bottom of the priority list)
2008 38%
2011 26%
2012 25%

http://www.people-press.org/2012/01/23/public...

C'mon Oz.. tell me that those other 75% all watch Fox News are are one-percenters.
All Knowing One

Highland Park, IL

#39908 Sep 28, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text><corrected for series and where>
WOW. My keyboard locked up with the mention of tina.
Actually, continuous [i.e. rising warmer seas] and abrupt [i.e. floods] events.
It not you or Tina. It has been happening to others on other threads. Its Topix this morning.

Carry on.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39909 Sep 28, 2013
FORT COLLINS, CO—Claiming that it is the humane thing to do, and that the planet is “just going to suffer” if kept alive any longer, members of the world’s scientific community recommended today that Earth be put down.

“We realize this isn’t the easiest thing to hear, but we’ve run a number of tests and unfortunately there’s really nothing more we can do for Earth at this point,” said leading climatologist Dr. Robert Wyche of Colorado State University’s Department of Atmospheric Science.“Earth’s ecosystems have hung in there for a while, and you have to hand it to the old gal for staying alive this long, but at this point the chances of a recovery are, I’m sorry to say, incredibly unlikely. It might be time to say goodbye.”

“Earth is in a lot of pain, folks,” Wyche continued.“Time to think about sending it off peacefully, for its own sake.”

“Granted, this is a very tough decision, so if you need more time to think about it or discuss it amongst yourselves, that’s totally understandable,” Wyche added.“But just be aware that the longer you wait, the more pain Earth will ultimately endure.”

Reportedly sensing some hesitancy on the part of humanity, Wyche then reiterated that very little can be done to prevent or counteract the myriad of maladies currently plaguing Earth, and that putting down the planet would in fact be the caring thing to do at this juncture.

“To be honest, there is a chance that had we taken more drastic steps earlier, Earth would have been able to survive for longer—much, much longer, even,” Wyche said.“But unfortunately, that is now a moot point. Right now, you should just cherish the good times you and Earth had together and give it a gentle and merciful send-off.”

“It’s your choice, though,” Wyche added.“So, you know, take your time.”

At press time, scientists had given humanity a few private moments to say goodbye before finally putting Earth out of its misery.

The Onion
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#39910 Sep 28, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, it's Obama who's ignoring the "reputable" scientists he claims to support.
Silly nonsense. The National Academy of Science was established by Congress to formulate and disseminate the scientific basis for legislation. It is the authoritative voice and comprised of thousands of top scientists.

YOU are trying to make this 'he said, he said' or a fight over 'authorities' but the ONLY serious authority is the NAS which has made several statements that AGW is the 'reputable' science.

Please rent a clue.
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#39912 Sep 28, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly nonsense. The National Academy of Science was established by Congress to formulate and disseminate the scientific basis for legislation. It is the authoritative voice and comprised of thousands of top scientists.
YOU are trying to make this 'he said, he said' or a fight over 'authorities' but the ONLY serious authority is the NAS which has made several statements that AGW is the 'reputable' science.
Please rent a clue.
There is not a single extreme weather event that can be attributed to AGW according to the NAS.
Thousands of scientists, as you point out, state in no uncertain terms that Anthropogenic Climate Change cannot be proven to cause any single extreme weather event.

So, one can believe the NAS and reputable scientists or one can believe CAGW Alarmists.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39913 Sep 28, 2013
Mothra wrote:
Top policy priorities for 2012
Listing top priorities for Congress and the President
global warming (at the very bottom of the priority list)
2008 38%
2011 26%
2012 25%
http://www.people-press.org/2012/01/23/public...
C'mon Oz.. tell me that those other 75% all watch Fox News are are one-percenters.
Here's a poll for ya, Motheaten:

NEW YORK CITY – Today’s new IPCC climate science report and the fast approaching first anniversary of Hurricane Sandy have policy leaders busy promising ways to curb global warming pollution and avoid future devastating storms.

American corporations are no less busy when it comes to combating climate change. But in addition to internal strategies to curb energy use and climate-warming pollution, many are realizing they need to put pressure on state legislatures and members of Congress.

Earlier this year, Ceres and its BICEP (Business for Innovative Climate & Energy Policy) network released a statement from 33 leading U.S. businesses urging their support for strong U.S. climate policies. Never mind that we’d just completed an election cycle in which neither candidate would utter the words “climate change,” these companies stood up and signed the Climate Declaration, stating,“Tackling climate change is one of the greatest American economic opportunities of the 21st century.”

Nearly 700 other companies have since joined them, including in just the past few days, Microsoft, Owens Corning and apparel giant VF Corporation, which owns visible brands like Wrangler and Lee.

Why? The very same policies that can move the needle on climate change—sourcing cleaner energy, using it more efficiently, and even pricing carbon—are quickly becoming the hallmarks of good management in boardrooms across America. A recent report by Ceres, WWF and Calvert Investments found that 60 percent of the combined Fortune 100 and Global 100 companies have already set renewable energy goals, greenhouse gas reduction goals, or both.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php...
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39914 Sep 28, 2013
Might be fatal to even take a swim in Florida waters:

Sydney - The Australian Irukandji jellyfish is the most venomous creature on Earth. Its appearance in places as far apart as Cape Town and Florida isn’t good news . Unlike other jellyfish, this species is a real environmental hazard.
ABC Australia quotes Professor Tim Flannery from the Australian Climate Commission:
""The main predators of jellyfish are gone and the main competitors of jellyfish are gone," he said.
"So when there's a big jellyfish bloom, those jellyfish can really take over the eco-system and they do that by killing and consuming any fish eggs in the water and any fish larvae and just building up in enormous numbers." "
The threat is very real. Marine harvesting also accounts for a massive proportion of the world’s food resources. Some years ago, I reported on a jellyfish attack on a Northern Irish aquaculture facility which wiped out its salmon stock. The jellyfish were a Mediterranean species, not usually found in the North Sea.
From that report:
"What happens if your salmon farm gets attacked by a 35 foot deep, 10 square mile horde of jellyfish? You’re short a salmon farm, and $2 million worth of fish. The massive plague wiped out 100,000 salmon, and the company which was farming them. "
It was an economic catastrophe. These jellyfish, whatever they were, also weren’t in the same league as the Irukandji.

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/357979#ixzz...

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Being spread by ship ballasts and nurtured by ocean warming, this is just another small "adaptation" we must make because of climate change.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39915 Sep 28, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly nonsense. The National Academy of Science was established by Congress to formulate and disseminate the scientific basis for legislation. It is the authoritative voice and comprised of thousands of top scientists.
YOU are trying to make this 'he said, he said' or a fight over 'authorities' but the ONLY serious authority is the NAS which has made several statements that AGW is the 'reputable' science.
Please rent a clue.
If you were paying attention, you'd be aware that I've been pointing out to Oz that advocates of the "science" aren't abiding by the "science".

He cannot admit the hypocrisy.

Can you?
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39916 Sep 28, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's a poll for ya, Motheaten:
NEW YORK CITY – Today’s new IPCC climate science report and the fast approaching first anniversary of Hurricane Sandy have policy leaders busy promising ways to curb global warming pollution and avoid future devastating storms.
American corporations are no less busy when it comes to combating climate change. But in addition to internal strategies to curb energy use and climate-warming pollution, many are realizing they need to put pressure on state legislatures and members of Congress.
Earlier this year, Ceres and its BICEP (Business for Innovative Climate & Energy Policy) network released a statement from 33 leading U.S. businesses urging their support for strong U.S. climate policies. Never mind that we’d just completed an election cycle in which neither candidate would utter the words “climate change,” these companies stood up and signed the Climate Declaration, stating,“Tackling climate change is one of the greatest American economic opportunities of the 21st century.”
Nearly 700 other companies have since joined them, including in just the past few days, Microsoft, Owens Corning and apparel giant VF Corporation, which owns visible brands like Wrangler and Lee.
Why? The very same policies that can move the needle on climate change—sourcing cleaner energy, using it more efficiently, and even pricing carbon—are quickly becoming the hallmarks of good management in boardrooms across America. A recent report by Ceres, WWF and Calvert Investments found that 60 percent of the combined Fortune 100 and Global 100 companies have already set renewable energy goals, greenhouse gas reduction goals, or both.
http://www.facebook.com/l.php...
<sigh>

The real reason why...

So the government can grease their wheels, on not impinge on their business with targeted regulations.

Crony capitalism.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39917 Sep 28, 2013
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text>"LMAO"Sounds like you better get that cave ready for that merciful send-off caveman.
Your post is one big crock of sh!tttttt.lol
It's really a shame when some people are too dense to grasp the excellent satire distributed by the Onion.

We should all work to help you find the right medications.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39918 Sep 28, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
<sigh>
The real reason why...
So the government can grease their wheels, on not impinge on their business with targeted regulations.
Crony capitalism.
You always have it figured out, don't you? Basically, that gubmint is evil.

You have a conspiracy answer for every aspect.

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