Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 64312 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Mothra

United States

#39436 Sep 19, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Define a warmist, DUH.
Where's your answer to my question?
Been defining warmist for ages.

I know you need remedial help, but that's your responsibility-- or rather, would be if you were an adult.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39437 Sep 19, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>And what does this have to do with global climate change?
Thorgeirsson, a senior director with the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, was speaking with two years left to go before the world powers gather in Paris for another round of negotiations over the future of the world's climate, which scientists warn will warm dramatically unless action is taken to cut down on the emission of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.
One of the main points of contention is how to divide the burden of emissions cuts between industrialized nations and emerging economies such as India and China, the world's top carbon polluter. The lack of progress in recent years has fueled doubts over whether a binding deal is possible at all.
Thorgeirsson seemed to strike a pessimistic note Tuesday, talking down the idea that Paris — or any other conference — would produce a grand bargain that would ensure the reductions needed to prevent a dangerous warming of the Earth's atmosphere. He even seemed to suggest that a global solution to the issue wasn't likely until the effects of climate change came barreling down on peoples' heads or flooding into their homes.
"I don't think that an international treaty will ever be the primary driver for the difficult decisions to be made," he warned. "It's the problem itself that will be the primary driver — and the consequences of that problem."
Quizzed on the repeated failure of the international community to organize a global deal on greenhouse gases, he said that the politicians involved had to be held to account.
"This is a question that needs to be asked at the ballot box," he said. "This is a question that needs to be asked of leaders at all levels."
Translation: there is no discernable connection.
SpaceBlues

United States

#39438 Sep 19, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Been defining warmist for ages.
I know you need remedial help, but that's your responsibility-- or rather, would be if you were an adult.
You have NO brain cells to process a question or define a word, DUH!

<typical denier>
Mothra

United States

#39439 Sep 19, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You have NO brain cells to process a question or define a word, DUH!
<typical denier>
If true what does it say about you, loser?

LOL
litesong

Everett, WA

#39440 Sep 19, 2013
middleofthedownwronggull y wrote:
you aren't very well schooled in energy transfers.......
"middleofthedownwronggull y" wrote:
The sun explodes a 1000 Hiroshima bombs on earth every second!!
/////////
"middleofthedownwronggull y" is upset, being caught with the above worthless statement.

"middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully.
SpaceBlues

United States

#39441 Sep 19, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
If true what does it say about you, loser?
LOL
NOTHING about me but YOU have NO brain cells to process a question or define a word, DUH!

<repeat necessary with deniers>
Mothra

United States

#39442 Sep 19, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
"middleofthedownwronggull y" wrote:
The sun explodes a 1000 Hiroshima bombs on earth every second!!
/////////
"middleofthedownwronggull y" is upset, being caught with the above worthless statement.
"middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully.
Oooo... so close, but sorry. Your babbling again.

Maybe you need to up your dosage...
SpaceBlues

United States

#39443 Sep 19, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again,..
FyI:

“We estimate that Earth will cease to be habitable somewhere between 1.75 and 3.25 billion years from now.

“A fter this point, Earth will be in the ‘hot zone’ of the sun, with temperatures so high that the seas would evaporate. We would see a catastrophic and terminal extinction event for all life.

“Of course conditions for humans and other complex life will become impossible much sooner – and this is being accelerated by anthropogenic climate change.

“Humans would be in trouble with even a small increase in temperature, and near the end only microbes in niche environments would be able to endure the heat.”
SpaceBlues

United States

#39444 Sep 19, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, not at all relevant to anything being discussed.
That's what these deniers do, LOL.
kristy

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#39445 Sep 19, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>And what does this have to do with global climate change?
Thorgeirsson, a senior director with the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, was speaking with two years left to go before the world powers gather in Paris for another round of negotiations over the future of the world's climate, which scientists warn will warm dramatically unless action is taken to cut down on the emission of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.
One of the main points of contention is how to divide the burden of emissions cuts between industrialized nations and emerging economies such as India and China, the world's top carbon polluter. The lack of progress in recent years has fueled doubts over whether a binding deal is possible at all.
Thorgeirsson seemed to strike a pessimistic note Tuesday, talking down the idea that Paris — or any other conference — would produce a grand bargain that would ensure the reductions needed to prevent a dangerous warming of the Earth's atmosphere. He even seemed to suggest that a global solution to the issue wasn't likely until the effects of climate change came barreling down on peoples' heads or flooding into their homes.
"I don't think that an international treaty will ever be the primary driver for the difficult decisions to be made," he warned. "It's the problem itself that will be the primary driver — and the consequences of that problem."
Quizzed on the repeated failure of the international community to organize a global deal on greenhouse gases, he said that the politicians involved had to be held to account.
"This is a question that needs to be asked at the ballot box," he said. "This is a question that needs to be asked of leaders at all levels."
T
The question was asked at the ballot box in Australia.

Australia's conservative opposition swept to power Saturday, ending six years of Labor Party rule and winning over a disenchanted public by promising to end a HATED TAX ON CARBON EMISSIONS, boost a flagging economy and bring about political stability after years of Labor infighting.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/conservative-opp...

The Australian people woke up to the smoke and mirrors of taxing carbon and voted them out. Australia imposed a carbon tax, raised the rates of energy to the Australian people by going green, but yet at the same time shipped the Australian citizens' cheap energy of coal to China, thus doing nothing to lower worldwide carbon emissions, but instead fleece the public of their hard-earned money.

China's coal imports, excluding lignite, rose 26 percent in July from the previous month after two months of falls in shipments, as a drop in overseas prices led end-users to ramp up orders of Australian coal and restock for peak summer demand. The jump in imports was largely led by Australian coal, which rose by 3.59 million tonnes to 8.52 million tonnes, accounting for nearly three-quarter of the total volume increase.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/21/chin...
litesong

Everett, WA

#39446 Sep 19, 2013
middleofthedownwronggully wrote:
....... kids were pushing your head into mud puddles during recess?
Years ago, a toxic topix AGW denier, "lyin' brian" used playground imagery to begin his slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rooting) racist & pukey proud pigisms AND alleged & proud threats.

"middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39447 Sep 19, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
"middleofthedownwronggull y" wrote:
The sun explodes a 1000 Hiroshima bombs on earth every second!!
/////////
"middleofthedownwronggull y" is upset, being caught with the above worthless statement.
"middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully.
you loons love to use the analogy for co2. i just put things in terms that you might possibly grasp. you know.....talk to you and your playmates like you're fifth graders.

btw....what do you intend to major in? your posts suggest you're still in jr. high....at most.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39448 Sep 19, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Years ago, a toxic topix AGW denier, "lyin' brian" used playground imagery to begin his slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rooting) racist & pukey proud pigisms AND alleged & proud threats.
"middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully.
wow.....what an intelligent post. okay....i gave you too much credit. you're still in grammar school, right?

do you know you brighten the lives of so many. most people here, including those on your side of the debate, laugh at you!

LOL

LOL
litesong

Everett, WA

#39449 Sep 19, 2013
motheaten wrote:
Oooo... so close, but sorry.
Good that I'm NOT in the middle of the down wrong gully, like "middleofthedownwronggull y" & all the other toxic topix AGW deniers.

Just because you actually understood one AGW advocate's post, did not mean AGW advocates are anywhere near toxic topix AGW denier territory.
litesong

Everett, WA

#39450 Sep 19, 2013
middleofthedownwronggull y wrote:
...... fifth graders......your posts suggest you're still in jr. high.
toxic topix AGW denier "middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully.

Yes, "lyin' brian" proved it was in fifth grade, then degraded to sub-sub-kindergarten levels with major mathematical & continuing errors & its slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigisms & alleged & proud threats.

It appears "middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully by defending toxic topic AGW deniers who are slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigs & alleged & proud threateners.
litesong

Everett, WA

#39451 Sep 19, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
YOU(motheaten) have NO brain cells to process a question or define a word, DUH!
"motheaten" is related to "slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig dirtling" who is "earthling has no brain" & "eart hling(alien has no affinity to Earth)".

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39452 Sep 19, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
toxic topix AGW denier "middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully.
Yes, "lyin' brian" proved it was in fifth grade, then degraded to sub-sub-kindergarten levels with major mathematical & continuing errors & its slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigisms & alleged & proud threats.
It appears "middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully by defending toxic topic AGW deniers who are slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigs & alleged & proud threateners.
you're not pretending are you? You actually are a total dum fuque !!!
Lol
heavy tune

Seattle, WA

#39453 Sep 19, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>you're not pretending are you? You actually are a total dum fuque !!!
Lol
that is the best post I've ever read,thank-you. xoxo
SpaceBlues

United States

#39454 Sep 19, 2013
kristy wrote:
<quoted text>
T
The question was asked at the ballot box in Australia.
Australia's conservative opposition swept to power Saturday, ending six years of Labor Party rule and winning over a disenchanted public by promising to end a HATED TAX ON CARBON EMISSIONS, boost a flagging economy and bring about political stability after years of Labor infighting.
..
From an open letter:

We are in trouble, I know... But these mongrels control the world media and they have convinced too many of us that the world needs their empire of energy supplies for us to survive.

To the contrary, as you know, The quality of our survival is actually dependent on shutting down all our fossil fuel consumption. It's a big task to convince the average democratic punter who enjoys heaters in winters and air-con in summer, while owning a gas guzzler to go from A to B...

We're in trouble. BIG TROUBLE.

http://www.yourdemocracy.net.au/drupal/node/2...
SpaceBlues

United States

#39455 Sep 19, 2013
Note from the open letter: The "carbon pricing" is not a "carbon tax" across the board. It is applied by charging a levy to heavy consumers of carbon who then increase the price of goods (energy) to consumers. The moneys collected from the levy is then used in several ways:
— to boost government investments in clean energy via various mechanism including the clean energy fund.
— to help low income families offset the cost of the increase in cost of energy.

The carbon pricing has helped the reduction of Australia's CO2 emissions.

The MAJOR recent increase in cost of electricity in this country was due to infrastructure "improvements" done by the private sector of supply: poles, wiring, substations. While governments in the past used to amortise such cost over twenty years or more, private companies are doing it over two to five years, jacking up the prices of electricity beyond belief. The carbon pricing only increased the cost of electricity to the consumers by no more than 9 per cent — around $350 per year for average households. The cost of infrastructure increased the cost by more than 50 per cent in some cases.

Now with the clean energy fund being dismantled by the new rabid-right government, clean energy is going to be starved of funds and those moneys still being collected by the carbon pricing might go to waste in fancy new extreme rabid-right-wing policies. Idiots.

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