Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 60149 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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SpaceBlues

United States

#36513 Jun 16, 2013
b_gone knows itself as a liar. At this time, it is a token denier leftover from the defunct gang.

:-)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#36514 Jun 16, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
I wrote: "Using fossil fuel helps free ancient carbon back into the atmosphere where it can do some good. Freeing carbon dioxide into the air helps mitigate climate change against global cooling; the well known ice age climate scenario.“ after I wrote: "if AGW theory is correct then we are already mitigating climate change against catastrophic global cooling, the ice age climate change scenario." In the later post, the assumption is tacit.
Nice spin but where is the supporting evidence to back up your rant?

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#36515 Jun 16, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Just words. Never anything of value. That is how a troll exists. There is nowhere to go with someone who has shut out reality. There is nothing right down the middle. It is empty ground.
The job of a scientific skeptic is to give valid evidence that the prevailing thoughts are incorrect. When someone simply says that the prevailing ideas are wrong without giving supported reasons why they think that way, then we see the house of the denier.
LOL.....i have no problem with 'thoughts' and 'ideas', son.
just don't make demands on others to accept them as facts.
because they aren't.
lol...

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#36516 Jun 16, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
<quoted text>Copycatting child.... LMAOROTFu!
funny you'll do anything to change the subject.
kind of tight inside that hole you dug for yourself, huh, son?
SpaceBlues

United States

#36517 Jun 16, 2013
Dont drink the koolaid wrote:
<quoted text>... And that explains the alarming sea level rise... Oh wait er, never mind.
Did you mamage to run away?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#36518 Jun 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>LOL.....i have no problem with 'thoughts' and 'ideas', son.
just don't make demands on others to accept them as facts.
because they aren't.
lol...
I see that you do not understand the realm of science. Observations and facts are simply data. It is a fact that the Earth is warming, because data supports that. It is a fact that CO2 is a GHG because science has determined that CO2 does indeed absorb discrete IR radiation. It is a fact that CO2 concentration is increasing in the atmosphere because CO2 is a product of combustion of fossil fuels and is a gas that diffuses into the atmosphere. This increase in CO2 concentration has been measured.

However science does not project facts, it only projects theory. Theory simply represents the best understanding that we have of a phenomenon. It is always open to scrutiny. By definition it must be falsifiable. For example the laws of motion hold for the macro-world but severely fall apart in the micro. That in mind, the theory that CO2 is a driver of global warming is accepted by the climate community at large and is open to scrutiny but has not been falsified. It is the best understanding that climate science has for a cause of global warming and no other climate theory has been able to replace it.

So, to chant the swan song of the denier blogs is completely empty. It is simply a ploy to deceive. What one must question is the motive behind the deceivers.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#36519 Jun 16, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
I wrote: "Using fossil fuel helps free ancient carbon back into the atmosphere where it can do some good. Freeing carbon dioxide into the air helps mitigate climate change against global cooling; the well known ice age climate scenario.“ after I wrote: "if AGW theory is correct then we are already mitigating climate change against catastrophic global cooling, the ice age climate change scenario." In the later post, the assumption is tacit.
Squirm and wiggle,little lying worm.

Before doesn't matter. After doesn't matter. In THAT post, you wrote:
“Using fossil fuel helps free ancient carbon back into the atmosphere where it can do some good. Freeing carbon dioxide into the air helps mitigate climate change against global cooling; the well known ice age climate scenario.“

You slipped up and accidentally told the truth. Now you want go back to your old lying habits. No "ifs", "ands" or "buts". Nor assumptions, tacit or otherwise.
SpaceBlues

United States

#36520 Jun 16, 2013
Falsifiability, as defined by the philosopher, Karl Popper, defines the inherent testability of any scientific hypothesis.

Read more: Falsifiability - Karl Popper's Basic Scientific Principle

<Not an easy subject.>
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#36521 Jun 16, 2013
Dont drink the koolaid wrote:
<quoted text>... And that explains the alarming sea level rise... Oh wait er, never mind.
Ice shelves. Beyond your understanding, right?

Ice shelves don't displace the water they are in. Therefore their effect, after breaking off, is none to negligible. However, they will allow the glaciers that feed them to flow faster.

Give it some time and you'll see the effect. Meanwhile, watch the level of your drink to see if it goes up after the ice melts.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#36522 Jun 16, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
I see that you do not understand the realm of science. Observations and facts are simply data. It is a fact that the Earth is warming, because data supports that. It is a fact that CO2 is a GHG because science has determined that CO2 does indeed absorb discrete IR radiation. It is a fact that CO2 concentration is increasing in the atmosphere because CO2 is a product of combustion of fossil fuels and is a gas that diffuses into the atmosphere. This increase in CO2 concentration has been measured.
However science does not project facts, it only projects theory. Theory simply represents the best understanding that we have of a phenomenon. It is always open to scrutiny. By definition it must be falsifiable. For example the laws of motion hold for the macro-world but severely fall apart in the micro. That in mind, the theory that CO2 is a driver of global warming is accepted by the climate community at large and is open to scrutiny but has not been falsified. It is the best understanding that climate science has for a cause of global warming and no other climate theory has been able to replace it.
So, to chant the swan song of the denier blogs is completely empty. It is simply a ploy to deceive. What one must question is the motive behind the deceivers.
Read, learn, and please.....comprehend.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/28/a-misin...

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#36523 Jun 16, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
I see that you do not understand the realm of science.
Apparently I understand science much better than you. But, I already knew that......your beliefs and opinions are guided by political views. Your 'theories' have nothing to do with real science, son.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#36524 Jun 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently I understand science much better than you. But, I already knew that......your beliefs and opinions are guided by political views. Your 'theories' have nothing to do with real science, son.
You might consult with some of those ppl in Texas right now after receiving 12 mths rainfall in one day. I'm sure they understand the science as well.
Bonny

Berkeley, CA

#36525 Jun 16, 2013
Does Obama Boo Boo cause Earth warming or climate change?

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#36526 Jun 16, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
You might consult with some of those ppl in Texas right now after receiving 12 mths rainfall in one day. I'm sure they understand the science as well.
and you have evidence that this is caused by man made co2? i'd love to see the study backing up that claim, dolt!
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#36527 Jun 16, 2013
Bonny wrote:
Does Obama Boo Boo cause Earth warming or climate change?
This is a perfect example of the really childish shit we have on this thread.

On the other hand, it's the perfect denier question too. So simple. So political.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#36528 Jun 16, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a perfect example of the really childish shit we have on this thread.
On the other hand, it's the perfect denier question too. So simple. So political.
lol....that's all climate change is...politics.

just like sen. whitehouse claiming the oklahoma tornadoes were due to man made co2.
then he had to shut and back track when scientist said there's no connection.
your crowd will take any weather event if it helps your political agenda.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#36529 Jun 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>and you have evidence that this is caused by man made co2? i'd love to see the study backing up that claim, dolt!
That's the whole point, We would not be here arguing if global warming had no effect. But every study on climate change leads to extreme weather yet you choose to deny it.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#36530 Jun 16, 2013
riteupmyarsehole wrote:
I'm checking in for my daily opinionated and unfactual rant early, like a little more of my nazi prattle?
No. Go away.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#36531 Jun 16, 2013
riteupmyarsehole wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently I understand science much better than you. But, I already knew that......your beliefs and opinions are guided by political views. Your 'theories' have nothing to do with real science, son.
Nothing you've ever posted here would lead an intelligent person to believe you know anything of "real science," hon. ;)

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#36532 Jun 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>Read, learn, and please.....comprehend.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/28/a-misin...
He calls you on your obsession with Denier bigot blogs...so you cite a notorious one.

LOL!

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