Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
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The capitalism model for the worlds economies consumes 1.5 times the earth's resources each year (sic)...
Did you even think about this patent nonsense statement before posting it?

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Did you even think about this patent nonsense statement before posting it?
Yes but you just misread it, if i went on with some long winded explanation then it misses the point. Consumption of the planet's resources is consumed by 1.5 times each yr before it can be replaced again.
In simple terms, fossil fuels consumed before being replenished, trees cut down before new ones reach maturity.

If you want detail then here:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57434525/...
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Global Warming is slowing down.

Minnesota has 3-4 feet of snow and it's the middle of April. There's talk like the snow might not melt this summer and glaciers will be starting formation.

Global Warming is a myth!!!!

A bunch of BS from Al Gore, one of the richest people in the world. Why doesn't Al share his wealth?

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Obama-Hoodwinked-YOU wrote:
Global Warming is slowing down.
Minnesota has 3-4 feet of snow and it's the middle of April. There's talk like the snow might not melt this summer and glaciers will be starting formation.
Global Warming is a myth!!!!
A bunch of BS from Al Gore, one of the richest people in the world. Why doesn't Al share his wealth?
Typical ignorant post from a denier who thinks global warming is all about having a long hot summer!. If you get your info from shock jocks and fox news then you have a lot to learn.
Global warming is ALL ABOUT 3-4 feet of snow in the middle of April, its ALL ABOUT changing rain fall patterns, it's ALL ABOUT extreme weather! That is the threat of loading the planet with too much C02 as it is ALL ABOUT ocean temps ,not the f...g temps outside your window.
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Why is it called Global Warming if it isn't about WARMING?

A year ago all you pot smoking radicals were claiming the WARM spring was proof positive of Global Warming!!

NOW we have a bonified COLD SPRING and you radicals are claiming it's PROOF of Global Warming.

WHICH IS IT????

It's too obvious it's BS!!

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It was a mistake to call it global warming because of ppl such as yourself who cannot grasp what it means when you have a sub zero winter. But its never about that one day, or week its about mean temps rising but more important ocean temps rising, ice melting and the result of that is CLIMATE CHANGE.

But the facts are mean temps all over the planet are increasing, and weather comes from the oceans. Ocean levels rising and low lying communities coming under pressure. Like a 1 deg increase in sea temps in the gulf for instance can mean the difference between a cat 1-2 storm changing into a category 5. THAT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!! Man has the tech to address it but like gun control the ignorant just can't get their heads around it.
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Poster at #35118:.. global warming?

Me: Here's a search for you.

http://www.google.com/search...

Read any link there, for example:

The greenhouse effect is being increased by certain gases released into the atmosphere. This is called "global warming."

http://www.epa.gov/airtrends/aqtrnd95/globwar...

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Ice has been melting during summer on the Antarctic Peninsula at its fastest rate in centuries, with scientists warning the process may no longer be as gradual as previously thought.

In a ground breaking new study, Australian researcher Dr Nerilie Abram says even small increases in temperature could now lead to a massive spike in summer ice melt on the peninsula.

The findings, published in the latest edition of the journal Nature Geoscience, show summer ice is melting at 10 times the rate of 600 years ago.

The most rapid melting has occurred in the past 50 years, researchers from The Australian National University and the British Antarctic Survey found

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/04/1...

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Water splitting: Plants provide blueprint for cheap hydrogen production

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This is not the same process I reported the other day.
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OzRitz wrote:
Ice has been melting during summer on the Antarctic Peninsula at its fastest rate in centuries, with scientists warning the process may no longer be as gradual as previously thought.
In a ground breaking new study, Australian researcher Dr Nerilie Abram says even small increases in temperature could now lead to a massive spike in summer ice melt on the peninsula.
The findings, published in the latest edition of the journal Nature Geoscience, show summer ice is melting at 10 times the rate of 600 years ago.
The most rapid melting has occurred in the past 50 years, researchers from The Australian National University and the British Antarctic Survey found
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/04/1...
This study by Dr. Abram is a 1000 year reconstruction, but don't worry last year Dr. Abram published a 15,000 reconstruction and found that temperatures were 1.3 C warmer 11,000 years ago than today. The authors state this in their abstract:

"Although warming of the northeastern Antarctic Peninsula began around 600 years ago, the high rate of warming over the past century is unusual (but not unprecedented) in the context of natural climate variability over the past two millennia."

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v489/n74...

But you are totally ignoring the elephant in the room:

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/dai...
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Obama-Hoodwinked-YOU wrote:
Why is it called Global Warming if it isn't about WARMING?.......
NOW we have a bonified(sic) COLD SPRING and you radicals are claiming it's PROOF of Global Warming.
Ah don' know whet a "bone-eh-fied'' es. "Bonafide", ah no!

As fer yer colt spell..........

Energy retained, due to man-made GHGs, causes excess energy to build in Earth's biosphere. This excess energy often moves towards the North Pole, causing Arctic temperatures to rise, stunningly. Simultaneously, the cold Arctic fronts are vigorously pushed to the south, causing abrupt cold weather patterns in populated, more southern regions.

Often the cold snaps, people experience, are preceded by warmed Arctic stoppage of sea ice freezing & even winter lose of sea ice. Seems like the Arctic is affecting southern human populations right now! The NP & SP are Earth's air conditioners.

Who woulda thunk et!

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libs believer in global warming, because they don't believe in God. they dont realize God has it all covered.

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inbred Genius wrote:
libs believer in global warming, because they don't believe in God. they dont realize God has it all covered.
Gonna be a bit of a shock for you idiots when you realise God booby trapped the Earth to blow up in your faces.

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twisty kristy wrote:
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This study by Dr. Abram is a 1000 year reconstruction, but don't worry last year Dr. Abram published a 15,000 reconstruction and found that temperatures were 1.3 C warmer 11,000 years ago than today. The authors state this in their abstract:
"Although warming of the northeastern Antarctic Peninsula began around 600 years ago, the high rate of warming over the past century is unusual (but not unprecedented) in the context of natural climate variability over the past two millennia."
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v489/n74...
But you are totally ignoring the elephant in the room:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/dai...
Twisty kristy strikes again.

Past temperature variation doesn't mean that recent temperature rise is nothing to worry about- because the present temperature rise is going to continue for a long time. whether or not it's warmer now than it was in the past is irrelevant. In a few decades it will be warmer for sure- and still rising.

From the paper twisty cites:

"Continued warming to temperatures that now exceed the stable conditions of most of the Holocene epoch is likely to cause ice-shelf instability to encroach farther southward along the Antarctic Peninsula."

Antarctic sea ice is another irrelevance: an anomaly caused by warming sea water and changing weather patterns. After a few decades, sea ice will be in decline too.

Another couple of feeble denier excuses from twisty.
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inbred Genius wrote:
libs believer in global warming, because they don't believe in God. they dont realize God has it all covered.
Correction:
Conservative disbeliever in science(& no science or mathematics background) said, "I believe in God...... & by god, god better believe like me, & believe in me. Of course, there won't be any libs in heaven, because they just don't believe like I do! Me & god........ we got it covered"

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Fair Game wrote:
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Gonna be a bit of a shock for you idiots when you realise God booby trapped the Earth to blow up in your faces.
either that, or he wants to use global warming to cleanse the earth of humans, so he can wait a couple million years and try again....his next experiment probably wont include muslims, and libs, both of them have caused a lot of problems.

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litesong wrote:
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Correction:
Conservative disbeliever in science(& no science or mathematics background) said, "I believe in God...... & by god, god better believe like me, & believe in me. Of course, there won't be any libs in heaven, because they just don't believe like I do! Me & god........ we got it covered"
so you're saying you're a little better than the rest of us? Smarter, younger, prettier, better educated, more sophisticated, hipper, able to order properly at Starbucks, enjoy films with subtitles, know which wine to order, can order in French if necessary, more in tune with the environment, against capital punishment for convicted killers, higher taxes on the rich, organic food fan, recycler and hybrid driver?

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Fair Game wrote:
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Gonna be a bit of a shock for you idiots when you realise God booby trapped the Earth to blow up in your faces.
so you're saying no need to continue recycling or shopping at Whole Foods?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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Plastic bags cost less to manufacture, than paper.
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OzRitz wrote:
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Yes but you just misread it, if i went on with some long winded explanation then it misses the point. Consumption of the planet's resources is consumed by 1.5 times each yr before it can be replaced again.
In simple terms, fossil fuels consumed before being replenished, trees cut down before new ones reach maturity.
If you want detail then here:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57434525/...
As explained, I understand.

(As an aside, I would be very interested in the source of your "1.5" factor - from what authority do you obtain that value? Also, I don't disagree with anything in the article you linked - other than it's the same basic hand-wringing article that's been written for the past century or more - no news).

While perhaps correct in theory, the answer, of course, is that technology advances and simple free-market economic drivers (yes, that eeevul CAPITALISM!") are also acting, and as a general rule prevent the Malthusian "crash" from ever becoming a reality we need to be worried about.

Fossil fuels will be rendered largely obsolete by better & cheaper energy sources long before they actually "run out."

Today's landfills will become tomorrow's highly profitable mines (where there's muck, there's brass!).

While one can point to plenty of cases of poor management of natural resources in every country and throughout history thru over-fishing, timber clear-cutting, whatever, in the long run it is those same eeeevul greedy self-interested capitalist entities that develop and introduce the technological advances in forestry, management of renewable resource stocks, etc.- and yes, THE MONEY - to put these resources on a long-term sustainable basis.

Concern for careful and sustainable management of natural resources is valid. Crepe-hanging jeremiads of a doomed future and blaming "capitalism" is not.

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