Nagin praises Cuba's handling of its citizens and hurricanes

[Cubano]

Cuba has rights like every country these law breaking pilots flew over Cubas air space as UN SAID and thus made their bed and now lay in it .

Cuba has every right to sue and foolish not to as the Miami junta has broken the law long enough .
I know plenty of Cubans who AGREE with me.

The UN should have had everyone involved in that arrested and sent to Cuba for a trial.

"Now, five years later, the case is in a Miami courtroom, where defense attorney Paul McKenna says that his client, accused Cuban spy Gerardo Hernández, is a scapegoat in the shootdown and that José Basulto, the leader of the Brothers to the Rescue, is really to blame. If convicted, Hernández could receive a life sentence."

Agree 100% the leader of Brothers "to the rescue" is to blame .

http://www.rsdfoundation.org/en/CubaShootdown...

[Cubano]

WE JUST DONT CARE
You are not a Cuban,neither you have an onze of dignity,you were exposed as a liar and as a moron......... period!
P.S. And as a bullshiter too!
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Mira que te duela. Que bueno Cubano fascista.

I am Cuban now whether you believe me or not does not matter.

I disdain you terrorist supporting , UNAmerican fascist separatist extremist and UNLIKE you and so many Miami Cubans .I subscribe to International law .

Somos hermanos viejo somos Cubanos . Tenemos la misma sangre LOL.

"exposed as a liar"
lol how did you "expose" me lmao because you say I am NOT Cuban that in your feeble old fascist mind counts as "exposing" me .

hee hee

[FascistasEnMiami]

Dignity or dead
This is not a Miami forum,this is a Cuba forum,stop trying to distort any comment into a Miami thing issue,jtrying to justif a dictatorship is a very shameful matter!
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LOL than you pay $20 and file a complaint lol viejo transvestite

[LigerOmniPotentM axx]

El chancho"(so called by his fellows due to his odor similar to boiled kidneys, due to his poor hygiene and lack of bathing or showering) che guevara was the communist pig that gave the firing squad to many innocent Cubans and took great delight in doing so. He was a racist and particularly enjoyed humiliating the Cuban negroes & mulatoes as well as the native Amerindian Mexicans whom he despised and made no effort to conceal while he was in Mexico.
Since he was a commander just like fidel, and was bolder than fidel, he enjoyed great power. fidel did not like the competition so he send him off on mission to Bolivia, where he was killed as fidel expected. This gave the revolution a martyr, while removing the competition, as well as producing an icon for the revolution.
It is said by those that found che, that he said: "Don't shoot, don't shoot I'm che & I'm worth more alive than dead, don't shoot" The soldiers that found him laughed & told him to say his last prayers, he cursed God, begged, cried, made offers to his captors, whined, wet his pants, soiled his pants, sobbed, BANG! Justice was done!
He who had killed so many, and took so much delight in doing it, died like the coward he was!
Good riddance, the stinking "chancho" is dead!
**********What few people know is that while he claimed the title Doctor while he lived in Cuba, he never graduated from Medical School. The reason his fellow revolutionaries called him "che" was originally to denigrate him, because they refused to call him doctor or commandante, since those close to him looked down on him. The nickname stuck, and since in the Cuban jargon the word is unknown, it readily identified him. The people of Argentina use this word very liberally just as the Americans use the word "dude" or "man" or "guy". The myth is that he was a guerrilla expert, facts are that he never, not once, carried out a successful guerrilla activity.]********

His bones lie at the bottom of an outhouse where the flesh was eaten by maggots!

The bones sent to cuba were not his.

[Brianna]

LigerOmniPotentMaxx
El chancho"(so called by his fellows due to his odor similar to boiled kidneys, due to his poor hygiene and lack of bathing or showering) che guevara was the communist pig that gave the firing squad to many innocent Cubans and took great delight in doing so. He was a racist and particularly enjoyed humiliating the Cuban negroes & mulatoes as well as the native Amerindian Mexicans whom he despised and made no effort to conceal while he was in Mexico.
Since he was a commander just like fidel, and was bolder than fidel, he enjoyed great power. fidel did not like the competition so he send him off on mission to Bolivia, where he was killed as fidel expected. This gave the revolution a martyr, while removing the competition, as well as producing an icon for the revolution.
It is said by those that found che, that he said: "Don't shoot, don't shoot I'm che & I'm worth more alive than dead, don't shoot" The soldiers that found him laughed & told him to say his last prayers, he cursed God, begged, cried, made offers to his captors, whined, wet his pants, soiled his pants, sobbed, BANG! Justice was done!
He who had killed so many, and took so much delight in doing it, died like the coward he was!
Good riddance, the stinking "chancho" is dead!
**********What few people know is that while he claimed the title Doctor while he lived in Cuba, he never graduated from Medical School. The reason his fellow revolutionaries called him "che" was originally to denigrate him, because they refused to call him doctor or commandante, since those close to him looked down on him. The nickname stuck, and since in the Cuban jargon the word is unknown, it readily identified him. The people of Argentina use this word very liberally just as the Americans use the word "dude" or "man" or "guy". The myth is that he was a guerrilla expert, facts are that he never, not once, carried out a successful guerrilla activity.]********
His bones lie at the bottom of an outhouse where the flesh was eaten by maggots!
The bones sent to cuba were not his.
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That is true the bones sent to Cuba were not his

[Cheerokee]

IS FIDEL CASTRO POPULAR?
In the first years of the revolution, he was. Now he is as popular as Ceaucescu, Brezhnev and Honecker, who also regularly won their one-party elections.
Think about it: If Castro really believed in his popularity, why wouldn't he allowed a national plebiscite, like Pinochet, or free elections like the Sandinistas?
The answer should be obvious.
Remember that in 1980, when Castro removed his police guards from the Peruvian Embassy, nearly eleven thousand Cubans crowded the diplomatic mission within seventy-two hours! begging for political asylum. In a few months more, some one hundred twenty thousand Cubans had fled to the United States during the Mariel boatlift. Castro had to close the doors tight again.
From 1959 through 1994, more than a million cubans have left their country legally and some other fifty-seven thousand managed to escape, mostly in small boats and fragile rafts. Others have fled by way of the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo, which is encircled on the Cuban side by barbed-wired fences and heavily mined fields, much like those between the former East and West Germany. It is estimated that only one of every three or four Cubans who have attempted to escape has been successful. Thousands have died in their attempt to leave this anti-U.S. imperialist workers's paradise, or have been captured and imprisoned.
Castro has not mellowed. In 1994 the Cuban Government deliberately sank the tugboat "Trece de Marzo" with seventy-two persons on board who were trying to escape. Forty-one people, including twenty-three children, died. In 1996 Cuban MIGs shot down two unarmed planes over international waters in the Florida Straits while those planes were on a mission to rescue Cubans at sea. Four young Cuban Americans died when the planes went down.
What sense would it make for Americans to extend any kind of helping hand to Castro?
After all, Castro himself has acknowledged that he urged Nikita Khruschev to deliver a nuclear attack on the United States during the Missile Crisis of 1962. Castro has trained and provided support to thousands of international terrorists and has been perhaps the most important nerve center in the world terrorist network, funneling men, resources and information to groups ranging from the Basque ETA to radical Arab groups.
And there are serious evidences that Cuba has played a role in the international drug smuggling to the USA. While Castro reamins a communist, he remains at war (a class war) with the United States. He has not changed and tactical manoeuvres should not be taken for more that than what they really are.
WHY HAVE THE CUBAN PEOPLE NOT SENT CASTRO AND HIS REVOLUTION TO THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY?
How could they?
"... In other words, the current Cuban regime persists in employing various methods--control of information, science, culture and education, jailing of dissidents, massive migrations abroad, etc.--to restrict and eliminate opposition.
"The main restriction is the Constitution itself, which provides at Article 62 that none of the freedoms recognized in the Constitution can be exercised 'against the existence and aims of the socialist state.' The significance of this provisio lies in the fact that it regulates, at the highest level, the practical exercise of the rights and freedoms enjoyed by Cuban citizens. The provisions of this article can be considered to permeate all
political, economic, social, and cultural life in Cuba.
"... the subordination of all social affairs in Cuba to political power; the political practice of the regime and the juridical order on which that practice is based; the exclusion of any different political concept and the absence of effective guarantees that allow individuals to claim their rights from the State--all of these factors together allow the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights to consider that this is a totalitarian political system."

[Cheerokee]

Cuba: The Unnecessary Revolution

Adolfo Rivero Caro

What was Cuba like before the Revolution?

By the end of the War of Independence in 1898, Cuba had been in ruins. As a consquence of the war some 400,000 persons had died, about one-fifth of the population. The country had lost two-thirds of its wealth. Railroads, bridges and telegraph lines had been destroyed. Sanitary conditions were deplorable and the country was gripped by mortal endemic sicknesses like yellow fever.

"Once upon a time there was a Republic. It had its constitution, its laws, its civil rights, its President, a Congress, and law courts. Everyone could assemble, associate, speak and write with complete freedom. There existed a public opinion both respected and heeded."

Fidel Castro, "History Will Absolve Me" (1953)

* In 1953, almost 57 per cent of the population was urban. More than 1/2 of the population lived in cities of more than 25,000 inhabitants, 1/3 lived in 4 cities of more than 100,000 inhabitants. One-sixth of the population lived in Havana, third-largest capital of the world in relation to the total number of the nation's inhabitants after London and Vienna.

(Cuba: The Pursuit of Freedom, Hugh Thomas

* In the 1950s Cuba had a large middle class: about a third of the population. Twenty-three per cent of the working class was classified as skilled.

* The middle class was NOT flanked by powerful landowners or by an upper class. And there was much social mobility.

* Cuba had the third-highest per capita income in Latin America, exceeded only by Argentina and Venezuela-between $350 and $550 a year, probably nearer the higher figure.

*According to a U.S. Department of Commerce analysis (1956), Cuba was "the most heavily capitalized country in Latin America" and its "network of railways and highways blanket the country." The country also had numerous well- equipped ports.

*Per capita consumption of meat was about 65 lbs to 70 lbs a year; of sugar 50 kilos, exceeded only by England, Australia and Denmark, and higher than that of the U.S.

* Life expectancy was 58.8 years, while the average for South America was 56 years.

* Death rate was 6.4 per 1,000 persons and infant mortality 37.6 per 1,000. These figures were among the most favorable in Latin America. As in Argentina and Chile, two of the top three causes of death were decidedly "modern": cardiovascular diseases and malignant tumors. Citizens of most other Latin American nations succumbed to diseases of poverty such as digestive-system complications, infancy-related illnesses and respiratory disorders.

"Cuba is one of the countries [of Latin America] where the standard of living of the masses was particularly high."

Anibal Escalante, leader of the Cuban Communist Party until 1962.

* During the 1950's, Cuban literacy rates were the fourth-highest in Latin America after Argentina, Chile and Costa Rica.

* Cuba had between sixty and seventy newspapers, eighteen in Havana alone. The twenty-eight main newspapers claimed a circulation of 580,000. Magazines were important. Bohemia, with a circulation of 250,000, was the most prominent weekly of hispanic America.

* Cuba had more telephones per capita than any Latin American country except Argentina and Uruguay; more TV sets per capita than any other Latin American country, and more than Italy; more cars per capita than any Latin American country except Venezuela.

* The dollar and the peso circulated jointly and were interchangeable.

[Cheerokee]

HOW DID FIDEL CASTRO HIMSELF CONSIDERED THE REPUBLIC IN 1953?
Excerpt from Fidel Castro’s “History Will Absolve Me”
“Let me tell you a story: Once upon a time there was a Republic. It had its Constitution, its laws, its freedoms, a President, a Congress and Courts of Law. Everyone could assemble, associate, speak and write with complete freedom. The people were not satisfied with the government officials at that time, but they had the power to elect new officials and only a few days remained before they would do so. Public opinion was respected and heeded and all problems of common interest were freely discussed.There were political parties, radio and television debates and forums and public meetings. The whole nation pulsated with enthusiasm. This people had suffered greatly and although it was unhappy, it longed to be happy and had a right to be happy. It had been deceived many times and it looked upon the past with real horror. This country innocently believed that such a past could not return; the people were proud of their love of freedom and they carried their heads high in the conviction that liberty would be respected as a sacred right. They felt confident that no one would dare commit the crime of violating their democratic institutions. They wanted a change for the better, aspired to progress; and they saw all this at hand. All their hope was in the future.
Poor country! One morning the citizens woke up dismayed; under the cover of night, while the people slept, the ghosts of the past had conspired and has seized the citizenry by its hands, its feet, and its neck. That grip, those claws were familiar: those jaws, those death-dealing scythes, those boots. No; it was no nightmare; it as a sad and terrible reality: a man named Fulgencio Batista had just perpetrated the appalling crime that no one had expected.”
WHY THEN THE REVOLUTION?
THE TIMES
Today, all around the globe, socialists are embracing capitalism. Governments are selling off companies they had previously nationalized, and countries are seeking to re-attract multinational corporations that they had expelled decades earlier. Marxism and state control are being jettisoned in favor of private enterprise. Yet, through most of the century, particularly after the 30s, the state has been on the rise, extending its domain further and further into what was considered the territory of the market. These practices were
propelled by revolution, two world wars, the Great Depression and the ambition of politicians who wanted to become The Great Distributors of wealth.
In many parts of the developing world, during the 50s, a prevailing model was that of the "mixed economy" in which government played a strong or dominant role without completely stifling market mechanisms. The Cuban Constitution of 1940 was social-democratic. In the 50s Cuba was among the most socialistic countries in the Western Hemisphere.
THE OPPORTUNITY
Batista's unfortunate coup d'etat in 1952 broke constitutional rule and the democratic process. Castro capitalized on Batista's unpopularity, heading an armed struggle against him, always emphasizing he himself was not a communist. The regular army could not prevail against guerrilla warfare and when Batista fled the army was disbanded. The revolutionaries organized a new army and put in place a military dictatorship inspired by the most popular, and extremist, ideas of their time.
financial resources, public and private, which he commandeered in 1959, Castro and his regime got an estimated $100 to $150 billion in Soviet and Eastern European aid for three decades, as well as $1.2 billion or more a year in military assistance-more aid then the U.S.. provided to the whole European continent through the Marshall Plan after World War II.
The Cuban people haven't fared so well. From being one the richest, Cuba has now become one of the poorest countries in Latin America.

[Dr Mario Menendez]

Cheerokee wrote:

HOW DID FIDEL CASTRO HIMSELF CONSIDERED THE REPUBLIC IN 1953?
Excerpt from Fidel Castro’s “History Will Absolve Me”
“Let me tell you a story: Once upon a time there was a Republic. It had its Constitution, its laws, its freedoms, a President, a Congress and Courts of Law. Everyone could assemble, associate, speak and write with complete freedom. The people were not satisfied with the government officials at that time, but they had the power to elect new officials and only a few days remained before they would do so. Public opinion was respected and heeded and all problems of common interest were freely discussed.There were political parties, radio and television debates and forums and public meetings. The whole nation pulsated with enthusiasm. This people had suffered greatly and although it was unhappy, it longed to be happy and had a right to be happy. It had been deceived many times and it looked upon the past with real horror. This country innocently believed that such a past could not return; the people were proud of their love of freedom and they carried their heads high in the conviction that liberty would be respected as a sacred right. They felt confident that no one would dare commit the crime of violating their democratic institutions. They wanted a change for the better, aspired to progress; and they saw all this at hand. All their hope was in the future.
Poor country! One morning the citizens woke up dismayed; under the cover of night, while the people slept, the ghosts of the past had conspired and has seized the citizenry by its hands, its feet, and its neck. That grip, those claws were familiar: those jaws, those death-dealing scythes, those boots. No; it was no nightmare; it as a sad and terrible reality: a man named Fulgencio Batista had just perpetrated the appalling crime that no one had expected.”
WHY THEN THE REVOLUTION?
THE TIMES
Today, all around the globe, socialists are embracing capitalism. Governments are selling off companies they had previously nationalized, and countries are seeking to re-attract multinational corporations that they had expelled decades earlier. Marxism and state control are being jettisoned in favor of private enterprise. Yet, through most of the century, particularly after the 30s, the state has been on the rise, extending its domain further and further into what was considered the territory of the market. These practices were
propelled by revolution, two world wars, the Great Depression and the ambition of politicians who wanted to become The Great Distributors of wealth.
In many parts of the developing world, during the 50s, a prevailing model was that of the "mixed economy" in which government played a strong or dominant role without completely stifling market mechanisms. The Cuban Constitution of 1940 was social-democratic. In the 50s Cuba was among the most socialistic countries in the Western Hemisphere.
THE OPPORTUNITY
Batista's unfortunate coup d'etat in 1952 broke constitutional rule and the democratic process. Castro capitalized on Batista's unpopularity, heading an armed struggle against him, always emphasizing he himself was not a communist. The regular army could not prevail against guerrilla warfare and when Batista fled the army was disbanded. The revolutionaries organized a new army and put in place a military dictatorship inspired by the most popular, and extremist, ideas of their time.
financial resources, public and private, which he commandeered in 1959, Castro and his regime got an estimated $100 to $150 billion in Soviet and Eastern European aid for three decades, as well as $1.2 billion or more a year in military assistance-more aid then the U.S.. provided to the whole European continent through the Marshall Plan after World War II.
The Cuban people haven't fared so well. From being one the richest, Cuba has now become one of the poorest countries in Latin America.

Exactly!

[Alpha and Omega]

It is much easier for Cubans, Mexicans, the Vietnam boat people, and all who come to America
with dreams of freedom and prosperity to flee these
countries that are run by communism and socialists
than to fight the regime that they are helpless to overcome. This should be a strong warning to those in America who support Obama and his in your face NWO attempts on a vulnerable country as America is at the moment.
BTW: As people come to America for a chance to build a new life and all the wonders this country has to offer, how is it the majority of blacks sit around day after day singing the old slavery song and still prosper off of it? What would blacks do in a country like Cuba?

[Marie in Miami Fl]

Alpha and Omega wrote:

It is much easier for Cubans, Mexicans, the Vietnam boat people, and all who come to America
with dreams of freedom and prosperity to flee these
countries that are run by communism and socialists
than to fight the regime that they are helpless to overcome. This should be a strong warning to those in America who support Obama and his in your face NWO attempts on a vulnerable country as America is at the moment.
BTW: As people come to America for a chance to build a new life and all the wonders this country has to offer, how is it the majority of blacks sit around day after day singing the old slavery song and still prosper off of it? What would blacks do in a country like Cuba?

Only people that have suffer from Socialist-Communist countries understand..the story repeat once more again..only this time to citizens that have never suffer a war in land and that the security that have run their lives in a country of freedom like USA.... will make them harder to realize what Obama is trying to do to America. Americans citizens are naive people by nature. I am not trying to insult americans since I consider myself one. But With the experience of living two Dictators Batista a Castro. having to leave Cuba at a young age. "Do not wait to lose the freedom we ...to evaluate it"" That is exactly what happens when is too late.

[LigerOmniPotentM axx]

Marie in Miami Fl wrote:

<quoted text>Only people that have suffer from Socialist-Communist countries understand..the story repeat once more again..only this time to citizens that have never suffer a war in land and that the security that have run their lives in a country of freedom like USA.... will make them harder to realize what Obama is trying to do to America. Americans citizens are naive people by nature. I am not trying to insult americans since I consider myself one. But With the experience of living two Dictators Batista a Castro. having to leave Cuba at a young age. "Do not wait to lose the freedom we ...to evaluate it"" That is exactly what happens when is too late.

Well said Marie! I concur having shared the same experience as you! I also lived under Francisco Franco & was in Spain during the birth of it's democracy.

[Cheerokee]

FascistasEnMiami wrote:

Dignity or dead
This is not a Miami forum,this is a Cuba forum,stop trying to distort any comment into a Miami thing issue,jtrying to justif a dictatorship is a very shameful matter!
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LOL than you pay $20 and file a complaint lol viejo transvestite

Kicking the guanajász out from this forum would bea lot cheaper!

[Cheerokee]

Marie in Miami Fl wrote:

<quoted text>Only people that have suffer from Socialist-Communist countries understand..the story repeat once more again..only this time to citizens that have never suffer a war in land and that the security that have run their lives in a country of freedom like USA.... will make them harder to realize what Obama is trying to do to America. Americans citizens are naive people by nature. I am not trying to insult americans since I consider myself one. But With the experience of living two Dictators Batista a Castro. having to leave Cuba at a young age. "Do not wait to lose the freedom we ...to evaluate it"" That is exactly what happens when is too late.

Well said!

[red dawn]

nagin= corrupt commie burrhead.

[Roseann Roseanna Danna]

Ol Ray plans on gathering all that black trash in New Orleans, especially in the horrible wards, and then claiming himself to be a Fidel Castro. I really believe that black politicians care less about the black race than the black race itself.
No one wants to live in Cuba because there are no human-civil rights, nothing good for the Cubans.
They risk their lives in droves trying to get to America. So this should warn the black blight in New Orleans about Ray Nagin, hater of the people!
I can just imagine the black race under a communist regime like Cuba!

[CubanoPeroNoUnMi amiCubano]

Marie in Miami Fl
Only people that have suffer from Socialist-Communist countries understand..the story repeat once more again..only this time to citizens that have never suffer a war in land and that the security that have run their lives in a country of freedom like USA.... will make them harder to realize what Obama is trying to do to America. Americans citizens are naive people by nature. I am not trying to insult americans since I consider myself one. But With the experience of living two Dictators Batista a Castro. having to leave Cuba at a young age. "Do not wait to lose the freedom we ...to evaluate it"" That is exactly what happens when is too late.
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"Do not wait to lose the freedom we ...to evaluate it"" That is exactly what happens when is too late"

I agree which is why the country woke up and voted out Bush and the Republican party which was tearing up libertys we hold dear. Under the farce of terrorism threat

[Marie in Miami Fl]

CubanoPeroNoUnMiamiCubano wrote:

Marie in Miami Fl
Only people that have suffer from Socialist-Communist countries understand..the story repeat once more again..only this time to citizens that have never suffer a war in land and that the security that have run their lives in a country of freedom like USA.... will make them harder to realize what Obama is trying to do to America. Americans citizens are naive people by nature. I am not trying to insult americans since I consider myself one. But With the experience of living two Dictators Batista a Castro. having to leave Cuba at a young age. "Do not wait to lose the freedom we ...to evaluate it"" That is exactly what happens when is too late.
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"Do not wait to lose the freedom we ...to evaluate it"" That is exactly what happens when is too late"
I agree which is why the country woke up and voted out Bush and the Republican party which was tearing up libertys we hold dear. Under the farce of terrorism threat

You are reading an old newspaper. It is Nov. 12, 2009. Who cares about Bush??? Obama is the one leading this country to Socialism. What is still A REAL THREAD IS... TERRORISM. Obama can call it any name he wants, still Terrorism

[CubanoPeroNoMiam iCubano]

Marie in Miami Fl
You are reading an old newspaper. It is Nov. 12, 2009. Who cares about Bush??? Obama is the one leading this country to Socialism. What is still A REAL THREAD IS... TERRORISM. Obama can call it any name he wants, still Terrorism
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No its not an "old newspaper" because it was Bush it was YOU the Republicans who almost destroyed this country.

You took office with a surplus and turned it into a disaster like EVERYTHING you touch. A monster of a defecit, 2 wars .
One based on pure lies which ofcourse means nothing to Reps and one after 8 yrs still a mess as handled incorrectly.

The country with 2 more yrs of Reps would have collapsed.

Pres Obama is far better than ANY Rep could ever be. He was handed a mess and is trying to dig us out of the hole you Reps made.

You fake bible thumping Reps offer America nothing but war after war and cruelty.
Funny how for wars that cost trillioNS you find money for.

I admit you have maybe one or two more election left as I thought your time was over but the new Dems coming to America in numbers put you on borrowed time.

If only Dems here would start voting in numbers we could clean up the Cuban Cosa Nostra stronghold but as of now its still your game but not for long.


"still Terrorism"

The terrorist were not Taliban they were Osama who dead and Al queda which is now THANKS to Bush/Reps in Iraq.

We will not win acheive anything in Afghanistan and its time to go .
The real threat to America are you "christian" Rep fanatics who have no concept of separation of church and state just like Islamic fanatics.

[Marie in Miami Fl]

The real threat to America is the resentment from Black americans and far let wing as well as radicals to Democracy and Capitalism.