Westtown man kills bear rummaging thr...

Westtown man kills bear rummaging through trash

There are 17 comments on the Recordonline.com - The Times Herald-Record story from Oct 15, 2009, titled Westtown man kills bear rummaging through trash. In it, Recordonline.com - The Times Herald-Record reports that:

A man shot and killed a black bear that was tearing through trash next to his house Wednesday afternoon.

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icepick

Howell, NJ

#1 Oct 17, 2009
why did youkill a defensless bear
Nature Boy

United States

#2 Oct 25, 2009
not so defenseless when a hungry black bear is in the proximity of your home where your innocent wife and kids live when your at work....

what did you want him to do? Let the bear go free? Next time he's looking for food it might not be in the trash, it might be his family having a barbecue in the back yard. I don't blame a man for protecting his family.
Donnie Wingo

Emmaus, PA

#3 Nov 3, 2009
Horses%$# Nature Boy. Obviously you don't know squat about bears and living in their habitat. This clown probably move here from the city and should move back after he's prosecuted to the fullest extent.
Nature Boy

United States

#4 Nov 7, 2009
Donnie Wingo, alright my friend. Next time you come home and your wife tells you your young kids were growled at on the play ground in your backyard by a highly defensive mother bear with cubs that takes any contact whatsoever as a threat to her cubs. Not so sympathetic for the bear with the problem hits home, huh? its easy to talk about it, but when the theat is where you eat, sleep and live? yeah, now the problem is slightly different
Steve L

Emmaus, PA

#5 Nov 11, 2009
Live with bears every day my friend. We elected to live where we do and we deal with the bears. If you see the highly defensive mother coming towards the playground with her cubs; you leave. I've been between many a sow with cubs. Wingo is right.
Johnnie

Plainville, CT

#6 Nov 11, 2009
I'd be happy to have a bear on my property.

Maybe the bear would have scared off the punk losers that trashed my cabin , year after year ,over and over, and then finally burned it to the ground.

Built in 1935, all by itself in the forest.Nothing left but the foundation, and the burned trees around it.

Thanks for destroying the one place, were all my relatives over many decades used to go to have a great time.
Nature Boy

United States

#7 Nov 16, 2009
Oh yea Johnnie, no I totally agree with you. Having a bear on your property would definately solve that completely unrelated problem of kids destroying your property...I can see that blessing turn into a curse real quickly when that same bear that scares away the vandals scares aways your relatives having a barbecue in the backyard. Everything is a one sided story to everyone.
Johnnie

Plainville, CT

#8 Nov 18, 2009
Nature Boy wrote:
Oh yea Johnnie, no I totally agree with you. Having a bear on your property would definately solve that completely unrelated problem of kids destroying your property...I can see that blessing turn into a curse real quickly when that same bear that scares away the vandals scares aways your relatives having a barbecue in the backyard. Everything is a one sided story to everyone.
You don't get it. There won't be any more Barbeques, because all that is left is a vacant lot.

45 years of vandalism , and finally burned to the ground. I will not invest a dime to rebuild, when it would be destroyed and burned again.

And you know, several hunded miles away, where I live, this doesn't happen to vacation homes here.

What causes the people in Matamoras to be so destructive, so hateful ?

It wasn't just the kids, I am sure. Buckshot fired into the house tells me that.

I never met any of them. Never did them any harm.All I wanted is to drive up once in a while, and spend some quiet time there.

And no doubt, the punks that started the vandalism as kids 45 years ago, are full grown adults now. They should be proud of their accomplishments, no? Bet they raised some great kids.
Nature Boy

United States

#9 Nov 18, 2009
Are the kids and adults that vandalized your house right? No, not in any way, shape, or form. Its a shame, and a disgrace that you cannot enjoy your getaway in the woods to the fullest because some low lifes want to ruin it for you for no reason. That is disgusting, however having wild Bears in your backyard won't fix anything. If anything a wild Bear is a danger to you and your family, forget the vandals. And thats just a bear looking for food, God forbid you walk back there to spend the day in relaxation and you encounter a highly, highly aggressive, damn near rabid, mother bear and her cubs. Then God be with you, I doubt you will be thinking of the vandals then. Don't even get me started on if you are carrying food with you.

trust me, I know people in animal control. One wiff of food, and a nice looking bear will suddenly become a threat to you, seeing you as the only thing standing between him and his next meal. Go ahead and put up a fight with a bear twice your size, you might just be his next meal. Look up bear attacks in New York in 2006, you'll be surprised. Then come talk to me.
Johnnie

Plainville, CT

#10 Nov 20, 2009
Nature Boy wrote:
Are the kids and adults that vandalized your house right? No, not in any way, shape, or form. Its a shame, and a disgrace that you cannot enjoy your getaway in the woods to the fullest because some low lifes want to ruin it for you for no reason. That is disgusting, however having wild Bears in your backyard won't fix anything. If anything a wild Bear is a danger to you and your family, forget the vandals. And thats just a bear looking for food, God forbid you walk back there to spend the day in relaxation and you encounter a highly, highly aggressive, damn near rabid, mother bear and her cubs. Then God be with you, I doubt you will be thinking of the vandals then. Don't even get me started on if you are carrying food with you.
trust me, I know people in animal control. One wiff of food, and a nice looking bear will suddenly become a threat to you, seeing you as the only thing standing between him and his next meal. Go ahead and put up a fight with a bear twice your size, you might just be his next meal. Look up bear attacks in New York in 2006, you'll be surprised. Then come talk to me.
Well, you sound like an expert. For one thing, we are talking about PA, not New York. The only bears that you will find in PA are Black Bears. Their existence pre-dates man in the area.

Bear attacks, are actually quite rare.They are only out and about at specific times, and rarely attack humans, unless they are provoked.

Most of the time, human activity increases the odds of bear attacks .
That is, some humans feed , or attempt to feed them. Some humans leave food outside, garbage, etc.

Bears can smell food from many miles away. As a matter of fact, their sense of smell is hundreds of times more powerful than canines. For example, a Male Polar Bear can smell a female in heat from 50 miles away !
Since bears will eat nearly anything, it is doubtful that the bag of trail mix one would carry on a hike , would cause a bear to attack.

Bears are most active dawn and dusk.Over the winter, they hibernate.

Common sense and the proper behaviour by humans dramatically decreases the odds of a bear attack.

Again, I would welcome a bear roaming my property. Maybe their presence would have saved my cabin.

Any by the way, in the area that I live in, there are bear sightings from time to time. They have never been aggresive.And I live less than two hours from PA. Most of the time they are found in a tree, and are shot with a tranquilizer and taken away. A few months ago, one ran across a soccer field at dusk during a game. The field was loaded with players, but the bear just ran through.
Steve L

Emmaus, PA

#11 Nov 22, 2009
It's obvious to me that Nature Boy hasn't a clue about bears. I'd rather have twice as many bears and half the people. Some of the scumbags that move into Pike County are just plain dirtballs. And if you see a sow and cubs coming for your yard, you calmly walk into your home. You absolutely don't know squat about bears. Where was your cabin near Matamoras, Johnnie?
Johnnie

Plainville, CT

#12 Nov 23, 2009
Steve,
Heaters Hill.
Steve L

Emmaus, PA

#13 Nov 23, 2009
Very familiar with Heater's Hill. In fact, my mom's aunt was a Heater.
Johnnie

Plainville, CT

#14 Nov 25, 2009
Interesting.
My family has owned the land since the 1930's.
No Heater's are noted on the deed.
Steve L

Emmaus, PA

#15 Nov 26, 2009
Oh, the 30's, so you're not local. I'm talking about the road and the reason for the name, Heater's Hill. I'm sure your family didn't own the whole mountain.
Johnnie

Plainville, CT

#16 Dec 2, 2009
Yes, Steve, you are correct.
We just have a lot on part of the hill, where the house was built.
I believe the original owner was Dietz.

Nevertheless, it is very sad that I do not have the confidence to rebuild.
What a shame, nice wooded area, plenty of wildlife, but apparently many low lifes that feel destroying someone's property is a great thing to do.
Steve L

Emmaus, PA

#17 Dec 3, 2009
I don't blame you Johnnie. Matamoras has even more scum here these days. You wouldn't believe the dope.

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