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Orange County Confidential: Westtown man charged in bear shooting

There are 17 comments on the story from Oct 29, 2009, titled Orange County Confidential: Westtown man charged in bear shooting. In it, reports that:

The Westtown homeowner who shot a bear outside his home earlier this month has been cited by state Department of Environmental Conservation police.

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Howell, NJ

#1 Nov 4, 2009
Does the bear have to bite a "state sanctioned" square section of your body out Before You DEFEND You and Your Family?
Just Curious......
Nature Boy

United States

#2 Nov 7, 2009
yea thats what I say. Its easy to prosecute the man, but wait til a hungry black bear is in your backyard growling at your wife and kids....? yeah now everything changes.

Howell, NJ

#4 Jan 24, 2010
with the family at stake i would shot first and ask questions later. kutos for the honesty. just think all the illengal hunting done in the westtown area!!!! where is the dec then?
Tucker Fredrickson

New Tripoli, PA

#5 Feb 1, 2010
He should have been fined. Move to the country and deal with it or move out. Just because there's a bear in you yard doesn't give you the right to shoot it......friggin' transplants!
Nature Boy

Apo, AE

#6 Feb 1, 2010
I see black bears outside my house all the time, I've never shot at them. However, if the bear ever showed hostile intent, I wouldn't think twice about defending me and my family. It said he "Shot the bear outside his home" in other words, the bear must've been pretty darn close. And he didn't go looking for it, the bear came right up to his house, on his property. People don't just randomly shoot bears illegaly. Chances are, he's an average man with enough common sense to decide whether or not a bear has hostile intent towards him.

Whether his common sense was right or wrong, if we weren't there, its not up to us to judge him. However, the story speaks for itself. If the bear was that close to his home, that he didn't need to chase it down, the bear was probably up to no good.

And who called the police on him? The Bear?! Obviously he knew what he did, and he admitted it to police. Now look, He's getting a citation for coming clean about a probably justified shooting (of a wild animal nonetheless)
Knows about bears

New Tripoli, PA

#7 Feb 1, 2010
If everyone who ever had a bear on their porch or in their yard was cited, the courts would be inundated with these cases. Unless the bear's trying to get into your house or actually gains entry, shooting it is bullcrap.
Knows about bears

New Tripoli, PA

#8 Feb 1, 2010
or should I say if everyone who ever had a bear on their porch or in their yard shot it and was cited....
Nature Boy

Apo, AE

#9 Feb 2, 2010
Let me reitterate....I see black bears all the time in my yard. By no means do I randomly shoot every black bear that steps on my property. But by all means, if one demonstrates in any way shape or form, hostile intent, I entirely possess the right to defend myself by shooting the bear, thus eliminating the threat to me, my wife, and my kids in a fully justifiable shooting.

Black bear with cubs in my yard: no problem.

Angry, hungry, defensive mother bear with cubs threatening my kids on the swing set in the back yard: Problem.

Do you see the distinction? Or must I continue...?
Knows about bears

New Tripoli, PA

#10 Feb 2, 2010
Why would your kids stay in the yard if a sow was coming their way with her cubs? Teach them to go in the house when the see a bear approaching. Realistically, it's doubtful a sow would bring her cubs close to your back yard if your kids were to be out playing in it. You better be able to back up what you say is threatening behavior with some evidence should you ever shoot one or be able to present in court that you are an expert in bear behavior.
Nature Boy

Apo, AE

#11 Feb 3, 2010
I don't claim to be a bear expert, but I possess the common sense to realize that without some kind of deadly weapon, Me, or my wife and kids for that matter, are no match for any bear I've ever seen, short of a cub. If I feel My family or myself is being threatened, I will defend them. You feel free to take any actions you feel fit when you are in close contact with a bear in your own backyard.

Its a harmless bear until your in ICU waiting on operation. Everybody is an expert on bears until something ever so "unpredictable" or "Out of character" happens. "I dont know why a hungry black bear attacked him, that just not like them!" Yeah ok...
They are natural hunters, thats what they do.
Knows about bears

New Tripoli, PA

#12 Feb 3, 2010
What do you do, walk around your yard with a gun all the time? Remember, if you can get in the house to get the gun, stay in the house and you'll be safe. You are overreacting and are obviously living in fear. You might want to think about where you live my boy.
Nature Boy

Apo, AE

#13 Feb 4, 2010
I don't live in fear, but I do walk around with a gun. And if my life or anyone around me is in danger, I won't hesitate to protect. I won't be the one at a funeral with a heavy heart, knowing someone died because I could've done something, but I didn't because I was too afraid of the consequences. A human life is worth much more than a second guess. Apparently (and unfortunately), some people think a viscious black bear's appetite is worth more than a human.

New Tripoli, PA

#14 Feb 4, 2010
You obviously know absolutely nothing about bears and secondly, you do live in fear if you feel you have to walk around with a gun.
Nature Boy

Apo, AE

#15 Feb 5, 2010
Okay, just because you've changed your name 3 times, I still know its you, not somebody else agreeing with you and your point. And second, I never claimed to be afraid for my life. When you spend 16 months defending yourself from armed terrorists in the desert, defending yourself from a bear seems like nothing. However, why take the risk when your life is in question. Its better to be safe than sorry. I'll let my friends at Force Recon know there are people on the Internet that think I'm afraid of North Eastern Black Bears...I'm sure they'll get a good laugh
Nature Boy

Apo, AE

#16 Feb 5, 2010
I apologize if I don't take chances with lethal animals when in regards to my life and the life of my loved ones. I don't see it worth it to play games with a so called "Harmless" carnivore. Look up fatal bear attacks in the Adirondacks from 2000 to 2005. By the way, that would be black bears. Now maybe you see my point.
Knows about bears

New Tripoli, PA

#17 Feb 5, 2010
I am neither Harry or Tucker. There are alot of Pennsylvania locations on here that are Macungie for some reason. I'm nowhere near there. By the way, thanks for defending our freedom. I hope people appreciate you guys as much as I do.
Nature Boy

Apo, AE

#18 Feb 6, 2010
Thank you, and I apologize for the false accusations. I wish there were more people like you who could appreciate freedom instead of taking it for granted when there are lives on the line everyday doing everything they can to defend it.

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