Stop & Shop Employees May Strike If Today's Talks Fail

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February 17, 2007 By JANICE PODSADA , Courant Staff Writer As a deadline nears for a massive supermarket strike across the region, union officials said Friday that talks will probably continue today between ...
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Jay

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#42
Mar 10, 2007
 
George Miller Jr wrote:
<quoted text>Would be interesting to see if the rank and file approve this, but the leadership doesn't; or vice versa. Thanks for the update.
It seems like there are a few people on here(I am assuming that they are Stop&shop employees) that want their voices heard. I think it would only be fair to let the EMPLOYEES vote to strike or not. They are the ones that will have to live with the decision.
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#43
Mar 10, 2007
 
The employees will be the ones doing the voting, but they will unfortunately follow the lead of the local union president's who have been doing the negotiating. If they present the company's offer, but don't "recommend" it, the membership will probably not ratify. The unfortunate part about this is that the union leadership is strictly looking out for their own interests, not those of the members they represent. If they truly cared about their members, they would fix that poor health plan that they are responsible for in the first place. Stop and Shop pays 100% of the plan, but the plan itself is the sole responsibility of Union leadership. I am sure that the employees would not mind paying if they had a better plan. When you dig deeper behind the the issues at union hall, you will see that the ufcw is responsible for alot of these issues.

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#44
Mar 10, 2007
 
Brian wrote:
The employees will be the ones doing the voting, but they will unfortunately follow the lead of the local union president's who have been doing the negotiating. If they present the company's offer, but don't "recommend" it, the membership will probably not ratify. The unfortunate part about this is that the union leadership is strictly looking out for their own interests, not those of the members they represent. If they truly cared about their members, they would fix that poor health plan that they are responsible for in the first place. Stop and Shop pays 100% of the plan, but the plan itself is the sole responsibility of Union leadership. I am sure that the employees would not mind paying if they had a better plan. When you dig deeper behind the the issues at union hall, you will see that the ufcw is responsible for alot of these issues.
Sort of proved my point that the UFCW needs to be seriously purged from top to bottom, not just at the local level but also at the regional level. They need to have fresh blood put in that will help the members, not hinder them.
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Mar 10, 2007
 
Brian wrote:
The employees will be the ones doing the voting, but they will unfortunately follow the lead of the local union president's who have been doing the negotiating. If they present the company's offer, but don't "recommend" it, the membership will probably not ratify. The unfortunate part about this is that the union leadership is strictly looking out for their own interests, not those of the members they represent. If they truly cared about their members, they would fix that poor health plan that they are responsible for in the first place. Stop and Shop pays 100% of the plan, but the plan itself is the sole responsibility of Union leadership. I am sure that the employees would not mind paying if they had a better plan. When you dig deeper behind the the issues at union hall, you will see that the ufcw is responsible for alot of these issues.
Is a S&S employee I think their will be a strike. I don;t want a strike. Unfortunately many of the S&S employees think the Union is lookign out for the employees interest only and don't realize the amount of money that goes into the Union payroll, politics, etc. From my encounters with Union reps the have not acknowledge that that Union manages the health care plan with out a lot of prying on my part. The Union has not said one positive thing about the Company, like provide a job, insurance, etc. One rep told me that the Company dosen't care about the employees. The Union will do their best to cause a strike.
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#46
Mar 10, 2007
 
On the health care plans: unions can only manage the plans with the amounts contributed by the company. The latter have not paid their fair amount in years! Plan reserves have been drained by the millions to make up the shortfalls. Current company proposals call for wage cuts (any wage increase going toward the newly created co-pay scheme). This company made a net of 700M profit last year! PT workers to wait 2 years for benefits! Please study the facts before you rant...
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#47
Mar 10, 2007
 
all you people need to stop bitchen things are gonna happen in this world that you cant stop or change so deal with it and stop bitchen if you dont like the way the union works then keep it to yourself if you work for a union that dont help you at your job than find a new job as for the rest of us people who are happy with our jobs and unions we sit back and laugh at all you dumb asses who wanna sit there and bitch about shit you dont know anything about.

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#48
Mar 11, 2007
 
mee wrote:
all you people need to stop bitchen things are gonna happen in this world that you cant stop or change so deal with it and stop bitchen if you dont like the way the union works then keep it to yourself if you work for a union that dont help you at your job than find a new job as for the rest of us people who are happy with our jobs and unions we sit back and laugh at all you dumb asses who wanna sit there and bitch about shit you dont know anything about.
You must be healing quite well from that union financed lobotomy you got earlier in the month.

People who are union members (like me, ASFCME Council 4, local 538) have the absolute right to complain about thier union. If your happy with your job and happy with the union, fine and dandy. But don't be dumping on people who have a right to complain.

If you knew about the background of UFCW, you would realize that that particular union is all about themselves and not about its members. The same people have been running the locals like thier own personal fiefdoms for the past twenty years and it needs to be changed. What the union does is terrible. Its been hijacked by people who are in it for the money and power (just like politicians) and don't care one iota for anyone else.

They go by the philosophy of "What's in it for me?"
So shut your yap and crawl back to whatever hole you came from. You are severely outnumbered on this thread, so GET LOST!!
Melissa

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Mar 11, 2007
 
Sharon wrote:
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I am responding to Daniel. I certainly agree that you have your right to your opinion regarding UNIONS, but I believe that some of your language was vulgar and not creating sympathy towards your view; rather you will find that people will see you as angry. You have made important points about unions, but thye are being lost in the anger. I agree that unions have made a huge mess in this country and they tend to fight for the wrong issues, but as Americans we have the right to have unions. If we continue to take away too many of our rights then we will be totally run by our government. And as a person who prefers my rights and not governments. I support the right of unions to protect their workers.
sharon-
Unions are how this country became what it is today. Unions don't hire people cooperate hires the people. We all know that the harder you work the less you get paid. This is no secret. The CEO get the big bucks while the union employees make them rich. Giving back to the REAL workers is only fair. If we did not have unions children would be working in terrible conditions just like 3rd world countries. Get a Grip people. We need to support the unions and the foundations of this country.
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#50
Mar 11, 2007
 
George Miller Jr wrote:
<quoted text>You must be healing quite well from that union financed lobotomy you got earlier in the month.
People who are union members (like me, ASFCME Council 4, local 538) have the absolute right to complain about thier union. If your happy with your job and happy with the union, fine and dandy. But don't be dumping on people who have a right to complain.
If you knew about the background of UFCW, you would realize that that particular union is all about themselves and not about its members. The same people have been running the locals like thier own personal fiefdoms for the past twenty years and it needs to be changed. What the union does is terrible. Its been hijacked by people who are in it for the money and power (just like politicians) and don't care one iota for anyone else.
They go by the philosophy of "What's in it for me?"
So shut your yap and crawl back to whatever hole you came from. You are severely outnumbered on this thread, so GET LOST!!
Agreed. As I stated previously, the real problems lie with the UFCW. If they really wanted to help their members, and also wished to increase and strengthen their union, they would go after the people who are dragging down the countries economy. That would be the big-box, non-union retailers like Walmart and Target. The problem here is that the UFCW has forgotten it roots, and no longer has the power to organize. The only thing that they are good at is squeezing the companies that their members belong to.
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#51
Mar 11, 2007
 
I have to go against most of the views here. The Union has its positive points and I cannot agree with all of the Anti-Union idea's here.
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#52
Mar 15, 2007
 
As a past union member who has moved on to bigger and better things, I have to put in my 2 cents. 30 or 40 years ago, unions were needed to protect employees from greedy companies.The days of working 10 hours without any breaks for $5 is long gone, replaced by big business, yes unions are big business, look at what the union takes from your paycheck every week and then multiply that by the number of hard-working people the union is taking the money from and you will see wht I'm talking about. Now, when the union leadership comes in to talk to its members, its usually some suit and tie who doesnt live in the area telling you how the company is out to screw you and how they are going to save you. Most of the time what is going on is actually the reverse. The union is trying to get more money out of the employer so that they can take more of your paycheck, yes if you make more the union gets more. The company then raises prices to maintain their profit and you end paying more, end result? you're not any better off than before the union stepped in to "help" you. If the rank and file membership were to tell the union to take a hike and form their own union (its was done at SNET years back)and approach the company chances are that the negotiations would go a whole lot better than some suit from union headquaters coming in and telling the company this is what we want and you will give it to us or else. the wall goes up and good hard working people are out on the picket line screaming how the company is screwing the employees. Ask your union leadership, if they will stop taking their pay for the duration of the strike as a sign of good faith to those who are being asked to do the same, guess what, IT WONT HAPPEN, GIVE UP MY PAY??? NO WAY yet they ask you to do the same WHY???
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#53
Feb 21, 2010
 
I think it's very unfair of anyone to base a person's value on what education level they have or don't have. These people are WORKING. This is all about company profits and if if they're out of jobs, the taxpayers will be paying them rather than the employees paying taxes.
ALICIA

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#54
Mar 1, 2010
 
Ireally don't think it's fare that they are dragging there feet with these negotiations. alot of us work very hard &and we deserve everything that is coming to us. what happens with the people who's been working all these years busting there behinds for this company. don't u think we deserve a little more than what they r offering us. look at all the money this company makes and they just want throw us under the bus. we wont settle for less than we r worth. GIVE US WHAT WE DESERVE STOP&SHOP. CAUSE WE SURE R NOT MAKING THE BIG BUCKS.
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#55
Mar 4, 2010
 
The rudest store employee, actually, probably the rudest person, I have ever met worked at the Stop and Shop in Feeding Hills. If she did not have the protection of a union, perhaps she would not have believed she could speak to a customer and treat a customer with such disrespect. Stop and Shop needs to address union problems, but they have many other problems as well. It would seem that a good management consulting firm would be appropriate. Shopping at the Stop & Shop is a choice, and the attitude of that woman, and some of the stores' managers also, seems to be that they are doing us a favor. I am not just annoyed about the arrogance of the store and the clerks, I am concerned about the intimidation tactics that are used with customers who dare to question a price, or who can't quite figure out how to use the self serve aisles or the hand held devices. The corporation needs an attitude adjustment.
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#56
Nov 13, 2012
 
I wasn't going to comment on a thread this old, but after reading 20 comments, I have to have my say.
First: We employees at Stop and Shop are not all morons and uneducated. Several cashiers and cdhs at our store have very good degrees (myself included, Bachelor's in Psychology, Masters in Elementary Education, and an addiction specialist certificate.) We choose this line of work to supplement a career, to return to work after taking time out of a career to care for children, or to supplement a retirement or pension. Either way, to lump us all as lazy uneducated morons is narrowminded, ignorant, and underlies a feeling of insecurity and lents us to believe the author is a very unbalanced individual.
Second: Union dues are well spent, believe me. I agree that the union gives the employee a rather keen sense of job security in times such as these, in which anything that resembles job security is hard to come by. Yes, we deserve any "perks" this job has to offer, as it is hard physical work, not to be taken lightly. It does not do anything perverted, like keep on board a rude or inconsiderate worker. In fact, I've known several individuals who have misbehaved and have gotten fired, rightly so. I've also known people that have gotten reinstated into their jobs with respect to the union when they were treated unfairly. Rightly so on both accounts.
Thirdly, Daniel, the angry poster, I hope, five years later, you have come into terms with your anger, for it can be self destructive to you and your finding of a successful and happy career. I can only pray that you find inner peace and lose your contempt for the pimp union reps, and us whores, the workers. I'd never had viewed a stop and shop employee as a whore, but if you see it that way, more power to you. Don't forget to take your depakote. That right dose of an anti psychotic can help with those hallucinations and delusions you face.
Thank you for letting me have my say, five years later, five years too late.

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