Stop & Shop Employees May Strike If Today's Talks Fail

February 17, 2007 By JANICE PODSADA , Courant Staff Writer As a deadline nears for a massive supermarket strike across the region, union officials said Friday that talks will probably continue today between ... Full Story
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Disgusted

Boston, MA

#1 Feb 17, 2007
Stop & Shop's Parent Company, Royal Ahold, is determined to break the union. It's no secret that they want to sell the chain, so the bottom lines has to look as appealing as possible.

If they are successful, we will be the "canary in the coal mine". The working man and woman ought to pay attention to what is going on here.

Their contingency hiring practices should be illegal. We know that the Teamsters will not cross the line. I urge shoppers to do the same.

There are numerous give-backs the company wants -too many for any normal person to swallow.

We have killed manufacturing in this country, outsourced many good paying jobs to third world hell holes and made college unaffordable for many young people.

Retail is one of the few places where someone without a fancy education can work. If these jobs are lost, there will be more poverty, more suffering, for what? So a few executives can walk away wealthy. How disgusting.
James Atkins

Seymour, CT

#3 Feb 17, 2007
The best thing Stop & Shop can is to break the union. Unions hurts the employees and it hurts their customers. I will not shop at Stop & shop because of their unions employees. They are rude and unhelpful.If Stop & Shop stays unionized I hope they go out of business...
Karen

Deep River, CT

#4 Feb 17, 2007
What happens to Peoples Bank in the Supermarkets, has anyone come up with a plan for them if the strike goes forth. Bank employees are not unionized so it would mean nothing for them to cross the picket lines!
Sharon

Southington, CT

#5 Feb 17, 2007
Daniel K wrote:
It would be great if the union is busted. I saw that Stop N Shop already has taken newspaper ads out to hire new workers to work if the lazy union workers refuse to show up and work.
The old corrupt pigs at the unions show up at stores and force low wage high school kids into signing union cards, they intimidate older workers on assembly lines by having a few large men from the union approach old-aged workers and give them a line of BS how if they join the union working conditions will be better and the elderly workers feel intimidated by the union pigs. Then the union bosses just sit on a leather chair at some little union office and take weekly union dues out of thousands of workers and feed the workers BS that unions are what make holiday pay and bonus time and time-and-a-half possible on Sundays, even though many non-union stores have all of those same benefits.
I will not shop at Stop N Shop because they are union stores, I stopped shopping there about 8 years ago when Big Y stores entered the state, I'd rather shop at a non-union store like Big Y which does not have the corrupt union and won't allow the union pimps on their property to harass and intimidate young workers.
Union Bosses are like pimps and the young cashiers at the foodstore are like their prostitutes, giving the union bosses a cut out of their paycheck everyweek while the union bosses sit around doing nothing. The unions and their corrupt practice are what have driven so many businesses out of America, they ruined the school system and airlines and now they are going to try and push around Stop N Shop, I just hope Stop N Shop has the guts to stand up to the corrupt bullying pigs at the unions.
I have refused to buy GM and Chrysler cars for many years now due to those being unionized car plants and have instructed my family and friends to avoid those unionized car companies also. Informed consumers are seeing the results, GM keeps losing money and just this week I read that Chrysler is going to lay off thousands of union sheep. Through democracy and being educated, we can ruin these union and bust their corrupt union practices, boycotting the union pigs and not giving them a dollar is the only way to deal with those union bullies.
If the Stop N Shop workers do go on strike and form a picket line, I will drive by and honk the horn in my Honda car (made in America by non-unionized proud workers) and I will hold up my Big Y shopping bags and I'll smile at the union idiots out in the cold striking, while the union bosses will be sitting on their leather chairs in an office laughing at the uneducated clowns they have out on the streets doing their dirty work - just like how a prostitute treats the hookers he has working for them.
I am responding to Daniel. I certainly agree that you have your right to your opinion regarding UNIONS, but I believe that some of your language was vulgar and not creating sympathy towards your view; rather you will find that people will see you as angry. You have made important points about unions, but thye are being lost in the anger. I agree that unions have made a huge mess in this country and they tend to fight for the wrong issues, but as Americans we have the right to have unions. If we continue to take away too many of our rights then we will be totally run by our government. And as a person who prefers my rights and not governments. I support the right of unions to protect their workers.
Jay

Newington, CT

#6 Feb 17, 2007
The big issue here is part time employees having to wait two years for benefits? I would like to know where else you can work a part time job and get any benefits at all. I work for a union and while it is not mandatory that you join, you still have to pay dues even if you elect not to join. The union does do some good but the protection of the stupidity and laziness of SOME of its members far outweighs the good things. I worked for Stop & Shop 12 years ago and at that time a full time meat cutters starting pay was APPROX.$23 hour. I don't know how much they make now but I would bet that it is alot more than that. That is why everything is much more expensive at Stop & Shop.
Matt

Somers, CT

#7 Feb 17, 2007
I currently work at S&S and if I had know that I would be forced to pay union dues each week I would have found work elsewhere. The only reason I still work there is because the managers at my store a nice. I frequently shop at Big Y. I find their stores cleaner, and have never see a deli employee wearing sagging baggy pants, and their pries are lower on many items. I am currently in college and as of now I only have a HS Diploma. If I was employer I would not want to play someone like my self very high wages to say bag groceries. I usually bag my own groceries at S&S. Some, NOT ALL, of the baggers seem to have absolutely no clue what they are doing. Yes I can lift more that three cans of cat food and a box of spaghetti.

Since: Feb 07

Rocky Hill, CT

#8 Feb 17, 2007
Jay wrote:
The big issue here is part time employees having to wait two years for benefits? I would like to know where else you can work a part time job and get any benefits at all. I work for a union and while it is not mandatory that you join, you still have to pay dues even if you elect not to join. The union does do some good but the protection of the stupidity and laziness of SOME of its members far outweighs the good things. I worked for Stop & Shop 12 years ago and at that time a full time meat cutters starting pay was APPROX.$23 hour. I don't know how much they make now but I would bet that it is alot more than that. That is why everything is much more expensive at Stop & Shop.
I like to answer some of your points if I could. 1) About getting health insurance as a part timer: If you work part time with the state (I know, give me your best shot about state workers), you can qualify for health insurance in as little as three months. 2) As for unions protecting lazy workers: In the public sector, this is an unfortunate reality as management has to go above and beyond to get rid of the truly lazy and incompentent, and even then, the union finds away to bring them back, or at the very least get a good reference. As for the good things, well state unions have not done very good things lately, but they're just a hair above UFCW, which is not saying much. The one thing they do have in common with UFCW is that they're all about protecting thier turf, not the members.
jose

Wallingford, CT

#9 Feb 17, 2007
big bussisness at it again profit profit profit. There is not any loyalty to there employees. how would like your benefits taken from you. lazy work just one day with me and you see hard we work.
pete meat cutter at s s

Wallingford, CT

#10 Feb 17, 2007
jay has no clue what a meat cutter made in 1995. that was false statement
pete meat cutter at s s

Wallingford, CT

#11 Feb 17, 2007
Daniel K wrote:
It would be great if the union is busted. I saw that Stop N Shop already has taken newspaper ads out to hire new workers to work if the lazy union workers refuse to show up and work.
The old corrupt pigs at the unions show up at stores and force low wage high school kids into signing union cards, they intimidate older workers on assembly lines by having a few large men from the union approach old-aged workers and give them a line of BS how if they join the union working conditions will be better and the elderly workers feel intimidated by the union pigs. Then the union bosses just sit on a leather chair at some little union office and take weekly union dues out of thousands of workers and feed the workers BS that unions are what make holiday pay and bonus time and time-and-a-half possible on Sundays, even though many non-union stores have all of those same benefits.
I will not shop at Stop N Shop because they are union stores, I stopped shopping there about 8 years ago when Big Y stores entered the state, I'd rather shop at a non-union store like Big Y which does not have the corrupt union and won't allow the union pimps on their property to harass and intimidate young workers.
Union Bosses are like pimps and the young cashiers at the foodstore are like their prostitutes, giving the union bosses a cut out of their paycheck everyweek while the union bosses sit around doing nothing. The unions and their corrupt practice are what have driven so many businesses out of America, they ruined the school system and airlines and now they are going to try and push around Stop N Shop, I just hope Stop N Shop has the guts to stand up to the corrupt bullying pigs at the unions.
I have refused to buy GM and Chrysler cars for many years now due to those being unionized car plants and have instructed my family and friends to avoid those unionized car companies also. Informed consumers are seeing the results, GM keeps losing money and just this week I read that Chrysler is going to lay off thousands of union sheep. Through democracy and being educated, we can ruin these union and bust their corrupt union practices, boycotting the union pigs and not giving them a dollar is the only way to deal with those union bullies.
If the Stop N Shop workers do go on strike and form a picket line, I will drive by and honk the horn in my Honda car (made in America by non-unionized proud workers) and I will hold up my Big Y shopping bags and I'll smile at the union idiots out in the cold striking, while the union bosses will be sitting on their leather chairs in an office laughing at the uneducated clowns they have out on the streets doing their dirty work - just like how a prostitute treats the hookers he has working for them.
your a jacka.
Rob

Wethersfield, CT

#12 Feb 17, 2007
I worked at a S&S when I was in High School. The pay was pretty good (this was about 7 years ago or more) I think around $7.50 maybe? Minimum wage was around $6.50 at that point. Of course, I didnt know I would have to give a cut of my check to the Union.

Most jobs in this skill level are only filled by morons. I mean, its obvious that there are only certain type of people doing this type of work... usually kids/students or less educated people. Same with fast food.

I took my job seriously when I worked there. I tried to be polite treat customers with respect. And I was good at bagging groceries. I even had customers tell the supervisors that I was "nice" or a "good cashier" or whatever.

But that was a long time ago. I eventually got fired for coming in late too much (story of my life). I could of called the union to get my job back but decided to just say forget about it.

With any job for any large store or corporation, you are usually just a faceless drone, a peasant, to do the dirty work and keep the company productive while the executives are sitting in their leather chairs, smoking cigars and taking private jets to play golf in Florida.

It was a part of my life where I was young and it was a normal thing for kids my age to work those types of jobs. I learned a thing or two from it, but I wouldn't go back there now.
Rick - Boston

United States

#13 Feb 17, 2007
I am a union member, as i am required to be for my job of 6 years. I was never a union member before, being a union member has its upside and down side as with everything else. With the potential strike of S&S I see the union as a blessing. How would you feel if your sick days were cut in half, your seniority reversed for company savings so they can pay the cheaper employee to work overtime, or to change the STATE law saying retail business gets paid 1.5 per hr on sundays to fit their own needs of including sundays as part of the 40 hr work week. To me STOP $ SHOP is taking the same path as WALMART let me make all the money and let the state and federal government pay all the expenses.

Daniel K has watched too many OOOLD movies.

Jay needs a grammer and spelling lesson if he is in college. He should also take a class in economics and reread its history.

As being a union member, who else would stand up for me to get a decent raise, or fight for me to keep my job because the boss doesn't like the way I look, the color of my hair, my age, sounds like this is covered by the law, but without the union protecting some of these individuals they would not know what to do, or what rights they have.

As for being uneducated and working for S $ S, I have an Associates Degree in Security, I spent quite a few years protecting this country (YES TO PROTECT YOURS AND MINE RIGHTS). But I only work as a clerk, MY CHOICE.

Bottom line is S $ S empoyees are only asking for a decent raise, earlier benefits for part timers, and to keep the current contract in tact. S $ S wants the world we live in, but they want us to keep all the problems.

I probably lost sight of the reason I wrote this but, what difference does it make, apparently people do not care what happens to their friends, neighbors, and/or family. I only hope they do not have to go through what we are going through now, being in a state of limbo not knowing whether you have a job or not and if you can afford to buy insurance for you and your family

Since: Feb 07

Rocky Hill, CT

#14 Feb 18, 2007
A response to Rob from Wethersfield: To say the positions were only filled with morons or the less educated is a bit narrow minded. I worked at S&S for one and half years. It definitely wasn't the be all to end all and I only worked there to get a third income (yes third income) into my household. I'm sure there's quite a few people who work there because they need that second or third income coming in to make ends meet.

So please don't lump in everyone who works at S&S as uneducated morons.
Brian

Boston, MA

#15 Feb 18, 2007
It is ironic when someone criticizes someone else's grammar and then spells it wrong (grammer). Of course this same person also made many more ironic criticisms but I don't want to go on a diatribe of my own. Peace.
Kathy

United States

#16 Feb 20, 2007
Daniel K wrote:
It would be great if the union is busted. I saw that Stop N Shop already has taken newspaper ads out to hire new workers to work if the lazy union workers refuse to show up and work.
The old corrupt pigs at the unions show up at stores and force low wage high school kids into signing union cards, they intimidate older workers on assembly lines by having a few large men from the union approach old-aged workers and give them a line of BS how if they join the union working conditions will be better and the elderly workers feel intimidated by the union pigs. Then the union bosses just sit on a leather chair at some little union office and take weekly union dues out of thousands of workers and feed the workers BS that unions are what make holiday pay and bonus time and time-and-a-half possible on Sundays, even though many non-union stores have all of those same benefits.
I will not shop at Stop N Shop because they are union stores, I stopped shopping there about 8 years ago when Big Y stores entered the state, I'd rather shop at a non-union store like Big Y which does not have the corrupt union and won't allow the union pimps on their property to harass and intimidate young workers.
Union Bosses are like pimps and the young cashiers at the foodstore are like their prostitutes, giving the union bosses a cut out of their paycheck everyweek while the union bosses sit around doing nothing. The unions and their corrupt practice are what have driven so many businesses out of America, they ruined the school system and airlines and now they are going to try and push around Stop N Shop, I just hope Stop N Shop has the guts to stand up to the corrupt bullying pigs at the unions.
I have refused to buy GM and Chrysler cars for many years now due to those being unionized car plants and have instructed my family and friends to avoid those unionized car companies also. Informed consumers are seeing the results, GM keeps losing money and just this week I read that Chrysler is going to lay off thousands of union sheep. Through democracy and being educated, we can ruin these union and bust their corrupt union practices, boycotting the union pigs and not giving them a dollar is the only way to deal with those union bullies.
If the Stop N Shop workers do go on strike and form a picket line, I will drive by and honk the horn in my Honda car (made in America by non-unionized proud workers) and I will hold up my Big Y shopping bags and I'll smile at the union idiots out in the cold striking, while the union bosses will be sitting on their leather chairs in an office laughing at the uneducated clowns they have out on the streets doing their dirty work - just like how a prostitute treats the hookers he has working for them.
fyi we are not lazy i workin sns as a teenaer now and i work my ass off just like anybody should. i believe in what i belive. we as employees need a strong union. dont be stupid and as for ur comment on smileing at us while holding ur bags go ahead and smile ill either flick u off or something more drasticlike grab those big y bas and shove them just for your smart comments thank u
Danielle

United States

#17 Feb 22, 2007
My father has worked for SNS for 20 years now and works harder than anyone I know. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion but you should think a little harder before making ignorant comments. The Union has obviously worked for many years since Stop N Shop is a billion dollar corp. Lets see how it all plays out. Shall we
Lee

Waltham, MA

#18 Feb 22, 2007
Stop and Shop has been cutting hours, crew sizes, and help for years. If this trend continues the small crew of people working in these stores will be burnt out and overworked. Its impossible to be lazy in the newer stop and shop stores. I should know, Ive worked in one of the busiest stores in the chain for the past 11 years. Its a hard job dealing with idiotic store managers and disrespectful customers.
These are peoples lives the company is messing with. Not just some guy or girl from another town. Its people who live right next door to you. Have some consideration for your neighbors who work hard to keep the products you need on the shelves.
Not You

Greenfield, MA

#19 Feb 23, 2007
To all of you service employees.. McDonalds, Used tire salesmen, Dunkin donut pourer's and the myriad minimum wage earners of our capitalistic society, especially the 20 year veterans of such. You aspire'ees of retail. Pray listen. Lesson 1, No company has ever vowed to support you. This in fact is your responsiblity. First off, no one I have ever known has ever exclaimed "I want to work at S&S when I grow up!!" If you don't like where you work just quit. This is America. There isn't supposed to be any entitlements. Who owes you a Living??
Jay

Newington, CT

#20 Feb 23, 2007
Well pete meat cutter, the meat cutters that told me what they were making must have been lying just to make me feel worse about being paid $6.25/hr. How much do you make for opening a box, slicing the meat and placing in a tray. It's probably pretty good considering the amount of work involved. Hardly the skilled trade it used to be.
Jay

Newington, CT

#21 Feb 23, 2007
Also Pete, please enlighten me as to how much meat cutters (FULL TIME-there was a BIG difference) were being paid in 1995. Please back up your "false statement" accusation with some facts.

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