Does Salem really need a City Manager?

[HarrisonCountyPa triot]

Fort New Salem wrote:

Attention all topix readers:
There will be a work day at Fort New Salem from 9am to 4pm on Sunday, November the 8th. Let's get out and support this fine Salem attraction that we are trying to get ready for the annual Christmas Celebration on the weekend of December 12th. Hope to see you there! Lets all work together on something positive for the city of Salem!

Gotta go to Church why didn't they have it Saturday?

[oks]

HarrisonCountyPatriot wrote:

Max,don't pay ant attention to this guy I think hes a
relative of the CM. I don't understand any of the BS he puts on here either. He could be a politician as he has an excuse for ever thing that's wrong with Salem. Now he's trying to multi-sect my toes there's a word for that kind of behavior.

you call yourself a patriot i think your a complete bafoon some of the comments you made are unreal are you sure your not Ron Watson?

[oks]

I think the fort is great I think the current leadership needs to be changed anything that a certain person is involved with is a flop and I can honestly tell you I have been to many of the work days and when I heard that the leader of the fort said he didnt do sweat work than by god I wasnt either I believe you lead by example and he does not.

[Max]

oks wrote:

I think the fort is great I think the current leadership needs to be changed anything that a certain person is involved with is a flop and I can honestly tell you I have been to many of the work days and when I heard that the leader of the fort said he didnt do sweat work than by god I wasnt either I believe you lead by example and he does not.

Your a complete idiot oks!!! Go crawl back in your cave.

[everyman]

Max wrote:

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Your a complete idiot oks!!! Go crawl back in your cave.

Care to explain? Do we also have a Ft. New Salem expert in our midst? Would be a pleasant change; all we have so far is hole experts.

[SalemTaxpayer]

oks wrote:

I think the fort is great I think the current leadership needs to be changed anything that a certain person is involved with is a flop and I can honestly tell you I have been to many of the work days and when I heard that the leader of the fort said he didnt do sweat work than by god I wasnt either I believe you lead by example and he does not.

Certain person? Care to name names oks? Or are you to chicken S?

[oks]

SalemTaxpayer wrote:

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Certain person? Care to name names oks? Or are you to chicken S?

Nope you go first care to tell us your name or are you to chicken shit

[oks]

Max wrote:

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Your a complete idiot oks!!! Go crawl back in your cave.

Ohhhh maybe I hit a nerve must be freinds with someone in the leadership of the fort well it will fail just like any other major organization or entity certain people are involved with.

[SalemTaxpayer]

oks wrote:

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Nope you go first care to tell us your name or are you to chicken shit

Were not talking about me OKS,why are you obsessed with finding my name,you going to retaliate that's the only reason you and everyman want names and IP's. I know two ain't gonna put me on your X-mas list.

[SalemTaxpayer]

Israel williams wrote:

Here we need a CM the old way did not work to well. It does not always work on the bases being well liked. There is good and bad eather way.

I want to know why people who have no handicap placard can park in the Handicap zone across from the DQ?
I have taken pictures of this infraction,if anyone gets a ticket
I have a video showing cars parking there and the PD just drives on by.
The precedent here that the PD is establishing is that they look the other way when it comes to enforcing that handicap parking law.
If he goes inside that establishment and just gives them a warning the girl at the front desk will let me know. Just because they own that business doesn't mean they can break the law.

[everyman]

SalemTaxpayer wrote:

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I want to know why people who have no handicap placard can park in the Handicap zone across from the DQ?
I have taken pictures of this infraction,if anyone gets a ticket
I have a video showing cars parking there and the PD just drives on by.
The precedent here that the PD is establishing is that they look the other way when it comes to enforcing that handicap parking law.
If he goes inside that establishment and just gives them a warning the girl at the front desk will let me know. Just because they own that business doesn't mean they can break the law.

Once again, that is a law enforcement issue. Make your complaint to the PD. It is not the CM's job to deal with that, except to the extent it has a bearing on his supervision and evaluation of the PD employees through the Police Chief.

[SalemTaxpayer]

It's the Cheif thats ignoreing the Law. Do you think he's gonna listen to a complaint against himself? I doubt it.

Who's authority does the PD come under the Clerks?
I don't think so.
Been there done that,two years ago not going to go through that process again,just remember if you get a ticket for parking in a handicap zone I got the Modus operende video of the PD.(just keep on cruising by).

[everyman]

SalemTaxpayer wrote:

It's the Cheif thats ignoreing the Law. Do you think he's gonna listen to a complaint against himself? I doubt it.
Who's authority does the PD come under the Clerks?
I don't think so.
Been there done that,two years ago not going to go through that process again,just remember if you get a ticket for parking in a handicap zone I got the Modus operende video of the PD.(just keep on cruising by).

You still need to file a written complaint with the PD. Copy the CM on your complaint. See if anyone responds to you. You has to take some action to complain formally. You cannot expect that kind of an issue to be resolved on an internet forum. If they all ignore you or do not give you a satisfactory explanation, then go to city council meeting, sign up to speak and present your complaint. There is a public comment session at the beginning of each meeting, and you can address the council for 5 minutes.

[SalemTaxpayer]

The city can be sued for not enforcing these ADA laws.

[everyman]

SalemTaxpayer wrote:

The city can be sued for not enforcing these ADA laws.

That is not an ADA violation. In any event, different ADA rules apply to governmental agencies...much loser.

[SalemTaxpayer]

everyman wrote:

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That is not an ADA violation. In any event, different ADA rules apply to governmental agencies...much loser.

Yeah you maybe right,I have read about the ADA violation it seems to fall under Civil Rights Violations.

[Salem_Resident]

tired of the bullshit wrote:

I think they could save the $40,000 a year by getting rid of the manager.Go back to the old way of letting the Mayor/Vice Mayor and council run the city.Provided we have the right ones,lol.
Im not that old,nor am I that young,but I cant recall the pros/cons of the old way.I do know that,being around the old city building all the time and listening,that I dont recall all the bs that is going on now by having the CM.

Cost the City over $80,000 year for this position with all the benefits ect. We need change . That would pave a lot of streets.
That would be every year too. We could get the city cleaned up in
5 years that's $400,000 in 5 years folks.

[Salem_Resident]

everyman wrote:

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That is not an ADA violation. In any event, different ADA rules apply to governmental agencies...much loser.

Really,read this.Then get the CM motivated to fix the sidewalks so I can run my wheeel chair to the Grocery store without wrecking.

Recent Lawsuits

In recent years, many public entities have faced arduous ADA lawsuits.

In 2004, a class of disabled people sued the City of Sacramento, alleging that its public sidewalks were inaccessible to those with disabilities. A settlement agreement requires Sacramento to allocate 20 percent of its Transportation Fund annually for 30 years to ensure disabled access to pedestrian rights of way. The settlement also requires the city to submit semiannual ADA compliance reports to an outside monitor for three years. As part of the settlement, the city had to pay $800,000 in attorneys’ fees to the plaintiffs.

[Israel williams]

We can complane on this parking thing for cars, but we forget the wheelers and ones with canes.

[Israel williams]

Can you see a wheeler going down US 50 on a wheeler and the PD give tham a ticket. This town has been very good at looking the other way on the handy cap for the last 60 years. Under mayors, council members and CM's.