Another business is hit by late-night...

Another business is hit by late-night burglary

There are 25 comments on the Brattleboro Reformer story from Nov 13, 2010, titled Another business is hit by late-night burglary. In it, Brattleboro Reformer reports that:

With another business hit by a late-night break-in, the Vermont State Police are stepping up their call for business owners to protect their properties.

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WhatRUTalkingAbo ut

Bellows Falls, VT

#2 Nov 13, 2010
State Police are stepping up their call for business owners to protect their businesses!?!? How about stepping up your patrols, or even showing up to a burglary call when you get one - not four hours later. What a joke.
After hours

Bellows Falls, VT

#3 Nov 13, 2010
Doesn't that bar in saxtons river close at 10:45 or something? If thats the case, all night is after hours.
What do you expect

Grafton, VT

#4 Nov 13, 2010
When people vote to reduce their taxes, whether it's for schools, police, or fire departments, what do you expect? If you aren't willing to pay for services don't complain when your level of protection drops. If the police don't have funds for patrols, crimes like this are going to increase, so DON'T blame the police.
Just sayin

Dover, NH

#5 Nov 13, 2010
The police have plenty of funds for speed traps and those stupid signs that tell you how fast you're going... as if every car doesn't have a speedometer in it...
expect the worst

Bellows Falls, VT

#6 Nov 13, 2010
what do you expect? what do you expect if you double the budget? better students? a policeman at every business at every hour? I expect no one to be around if you keep raising taxes. look, s- happens. It doesn't happen that much around here thankfully.
Spuds

Lisbon Falls, ME

#7 Nov 13, 2010
What do you expect wrote:
When people vote to reduce their taxes, whether it's for schools, police, or fire departments, what do you expect? If you aren't willing to pay for services don't complain when your level of protection drops. If the police don't have funds for patrols, crimes like this are going to increase, so DON'T blame the police.
50 or 60 thousand for just one extra cop and thousands more for benefits, union dues, and a cop car to maybe prevent a few hundred dollars lost to a burglary or two or three. Get a surveillance camera and a recorder for a little money on line, and do the taxpayers a favor. Taxes are too high already!
jway

Tuscumbia, AL

#8 Nov 13, 2010
Blame the cops blame the property owners raise taxes. They said protect your self. Do what the old poachers used to do. set up a shotgun with a string and a spring. WHOLAW, once one of the bums take a load of no 6. the burglaries will cease when the word hits the street. Justice served.
Scott

Newton Center, MA

#9 Nov 13, 2010
jway wrote:
Blame the cops blame the property owners raise taxes. They said protect your self. Do what the old poachers used to do. set up a shotgun with a string and a spring. WHOLAW, once one of the bums take a load of no 6. the burglaries will cease when the word hits the street. Justice served.
You ARE a dumb@$s cra cker f**tard! Like the kind at the end of 'Easy Rider' who shoot the hippy bikers dead just for $#its and giggles. Set up a shotgun to shoot whoever walks into a string?!?! Great, so some Jehovah's Witness or Mormon gets blown away cuz you thought it'd be smart to put such a booby trap at the door?! Hmmm, on second thought we could use less of those cult kooks ...Wait, No! It's friggin murder and that's what you'd be charged with if you did that fool! Even if you had it indoors and a real criminal broke in and got shot, someone would call the cops hearing the shot or the burglar might have an accomplice who would turn you in and you might get only second degree murder but still plenty of jailtime.
Hey I got an idea you'd love jway since you've said you think all drug users and even pot heads are criminals who deserve jail- lets have the CIA take those drugs they been bringing in (most of heroin & cocaine for decades-it's documented) and lace them with a slow acting unnoticable poison that'll kill 'em off- Wouldn't that be grand jway??
Spuds

Lisbon Falls, ME

#10 Nov 13, 2010
Scott wrote:
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You ARE a dumb@$s cra cker f**tard! Like the kind at the end of 'Easy Rider' who shoot the hippy bikers dead just for $#its and giggles. Set up a shotgun to shoot whoever walks into a string?!?! Great, so some Jehovah's Witness or Mormon gets blown away cuz you thought it'd be smart to put such a booby trap at the door?! Hmmm, on second thought we could use less of those cult kooks ...Wait, No! It's friggin murder and that's what you'd be charged with if you did that fool! Even if you had it indoors and a real criminal broke in and got shot, someone would call the cops hearing the shot or the burglar might have an accomplice who would turn you in and you might get only second degree murder but still plenty of jailtime.
Hey I got an idea you'd love jway since you've said you think all drug users and even pot heads are criminals who deserve jail- lets have the CIA take those drugs they been bringing in (most of heroin & cocaine for decades-it's documented) and lace them with a slow acting unnoticable poison that'll kill 'em off- Wouldn't that be grand jway??
I agree the string and shotgun thing might get the wrong person shot, but since when did you ever hear JW's going around in the night prying doors open?
What do you expect

Grafton, VT

#11 Nov 13, 2010
Wah, wah, wah!
Most of the "anti-tax" people I know don't hesitate to buy a case of beer and a carton or two of ciggies per week (despite the high taxes on each) or think nothing of driving a gas guzzling Mercedes or Tahoe and spending over a hundred dollars for dinner at some over-priced restaurant. It's basically a "what's in it for me" attitude without any concern for other people or students. Policemen, firemen, and teachers are the backbone of our society and without them you anti-tax people would be the first ones to cry about them not being there when you need them. It's EASY to attack them because they are public employees (putting up with WAY too much grief) paid with public tax dollars. Best suggestion...if you don't like it, MOVE!!! Go down south where tax are much lower and crime and ignorance is much higher. They would welcome you with open arms...and jway proves my point!
Scott

Newton Center, MA

#12 Nov 13, 2010
Spuds wrote:
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I agree the string and shotgun thing might get the wrong person shot, but since when did you ever hear JW's going around in the night prying doors open?
-He was talking about what poachers suppposedly used to do according to him, which would be outdoors. more likely a dumb drunk redneck yae-hoo would come home and forget about his boogie trap and blow shot up his own azz- now that would be funny, almost as funny as unhookin yer rotweiller to see how fast the JW or Mormon can run!

Reality

Westland, MI

#13 Nov 13, 2010
What do you expect wrote:
Wah, wah, wah!
Most of the "anti-tax" people I know don't hesitate to buy a case of beer and a carton or two of ciggies per week (despite the high taxes on each) or think nothing of driving a gas guzzling Mercedes or Tahoe and spending over a hundred dollars for dinner at some over-priced restaurant. It's basically a "what's in it for me" attitude without any concern for other people or students. Policemen, firemen, and teachers are the backbone of our society and without them you anti-tax people would be the first ones to cry about them not being there when you need them. It's EASY to attack them because they are public employees (putting up with WAY too much grief) paid with public tax dollars. Best suggestion...if you don't like it, MOVE!!! Go down south where tax are much lower and crime and ignorance is much higher. They would welcome you with open arms...and jway proves my point!
Yep. Read the above again, then again, then again. And then try to discount his actual points.
Deployed in Afghanistan

United States

#14 Nov 14, 2010
Law enforcement is meant to enforce existing and current laws. It is not guard duty for private property. At best you conduct presence patrols as a deterrent, and if a crime is committed, then you conduct an investigation. Installing sensor lights, alarms and cameras is probably the single most effective way to protect against burglary. The real problem is the punishment that the court system delivers to the convicted individual(s). First time offenders get a slap on the butt. Repeat offenders are just that, repeat offenders. They are either high on meth and jungle juice or just don’t care because the punishment is not severe.
Spuds

Lisbon Falls, ME

#15 Nov 14, 2010
What do you expect wrote:
Wah, wah, wah!
Most of the "anti-tax" people I know don't hesitate to buy a case of beer and a carton or two of ciggies per week (despite the high taxes on each) or think nothing of driving a gas guzzling Mercedes or Tahoe and spending over a hundred dollars for dinner at some over-priced restaurant. It's basically a "what's in it for me" attitude without any concern for other people or students. Policemen, firemen, and teachers are the backbone of our society and without them you anti-tax people would be the first ones to cry about them not being there when you need them. It's EASY to attack them because they are public employees (putting up with WAY too much grief) paid with public tax dollars. Best suggestion...if you don't like it, MOVE!!! Go down south where tax are much lower and crime and ignorance is much higher. They would welcome you with open arms...and jway proves my point!
The farmers are the backbone of any society and not overpaid union thugs! Taxpayers are at the mercy of union bosses. When will they take a pay cut????????
Spuds

Lisbon Falls, ME

#16 Nov 14, 2010
I was here long before the service unions that none of us voted for. If you don't like that, move to back to Chicago.
TNB

Memphis, TN

#17 Nov 14, 2010
Ever heard of a burglar alarm?Not only a deterent but also have been known to allow the cops to catch these lame brains in the act.I know this might be hard for the typical Vermont business owner to grasp but they work pretty good....
Spuds

Lisbon Falls, ME

#18 Nov 14, 2010
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. Read the above again, then again, then again. And then try to discount his actual points.
Police, fireman, and teachers can't do it all regardless of their numbers. Fire and crime can be prevented but it's a little late once the fire has started or the crime is in progress. With your logic we should have a fireman posted by every stove and a cop by every door.
Get real, we can't afford the union pensions!
jway

Tuscumbia, AL

#19 Nov 14, 2010
Scott the deer poaching took place in NY an VT yrs ago. As for me being the as- you constantly blame the CIA. That is asinine. Jesse has to be ya relation I think I mentioned in a earlier post . Stop putting all the responsibility on the Victims. You have a right to protect family and property. Not 15 min average wait time for the cops. The bums case out a place first an cut all power if they are smart before entering. Its a fact where these bums get blown away or know people are armed they shy away from the area.Next stop blaming all the world ills on the USA.
Spuds

Lisbon Falls, ME

#20 Nov 14, 2010
jway wrote:
Scott the deer poaching took place in NY an VT yrs ago. As for me being the as- you constantly blame the CIA. That is asinine. Jesse has to be ya relation I think I mentioned in a earlier post . Stop putting all the responsibility on the Victims. You have a right to protect family and property. Not 15 min average wait time for the cops. The bums case out a place first an cut all power if they are smart before entering. Its a fact where these bums get blown away or know people are armed they shy away from the area.Next stop blaming all the world ills on the USA.
Well ya can run the line through steel conduit where they would need a ladder to get to it, but I agree, a good dose of rock salt would cure the infection.
Tim

Grantham, NH

#21 Nov 14, 2010
Vermont does not even have 24 police coverage. Patrol is not 100% effective, but lack of it IS 100% ineffective.

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