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#87 Jun 11, 2009
I hope everyone making all these posts makes sure to go out and vote. Your words are useless if you don't put them into action.
#88 Jun 11, 2009
I know I do
#89 Jun 11, 2009
I'm new to this post
I went to another regional school district in MA.
The district is a little smaller that Ash-West
The elementary/ middle school was and still is grades 1 through 8. There was one principal, no asst. principal and one secretary. There were no guidance counselors. Class size was 25 to 30 students and there were no teachers assistants. The high school had a principal and an assistant principal. There was no dean of students. There were 2 guidance counselors. Again, no teachers assistants.
The students and teachers managed just fine. If you were having trouble in a class the teacher would offer to stay after school to work with you one on one. Do they do that in Ash-West?
Where did the Ash-West district go wrong? What was the reason for creating teacher assistants, dean of students and assistant principals where one is not needed? Are there other paid positions that really arent necessary where those dollars could be used to save the teachers jobs??? I heard the high school has a full time employee to watch students that act up or are sent to detention. Is this true? Dont teachers rotate detention duty anymore? They did in the school district I went to. And before you ask, no I did not spend any time in detention.
School budgets need to start with teachers. Once the teacher positions are all filled, then start to fill the next most important positions and so on. If it comes down to one principal and no assistant principal per building then thats what should happen. I still dont get the teachers assistant position? That sounds like money not well spent. If the goal is reduce the class size per teacher then spend the money on teachers and not on positions the district can live without. More money spent on teachers the smaller the class size. Children dont get an education from an assistant principal or a full time employee (probably with benefits) that runs detention.
Im not sure that throwing more money into the budget is the solution right now.
#90 Jun 14, 2009
I like it. Build a budget from bottom up. Not from the top down.
Teachers AND Sports/Band etc.
KIDS DON'T LEARN ANYTHING FROM THE FOLLOWING
Cafeteria workers (gotta feed the kids)
Superintendent's office (which should be in one of the school building)
If any money left over for personal then maybe.
I would rather have a case reserve.
#91 Jun 14, 2009
I disagree that Guidance Counselors don't teach children anything.
I have known them to help kids get out of abusive homes and relationships because the kids had noone else they trusted to talk to.
I have known them to help countless children find a way to attend college because their parents just weren't educated enough or plugged in enough to help.
I have known them to help kids select the right courseload that will benefit them through their years in school.
I have know them to help parents who need help finding protection for their kids in school who are bullied or pressured and the administration wasn't listening or didn't care.
I'm just surprised, I guess, that you included them on your list. What is your point for listing needed positions, but that you feel students don't learn from them?
#92 Jun 14, 2009
You are right about the guidance counselors. They can be moved above
"KIDS DON'T LEARN ANYTHING FROM THE FOLLOWING"
#93 Jun 14, 2009
Some of you show some real intelligence, it is not hard to see why you don't get it. Here is an easy retort:
From our Resident College Professor WOW:
"KIDS DON'T LEARN ANYTHING FROM THE FOLLOWING"
"Cafeteria workers (gotta feed the kids)"
Yes, you are right, it is the law.(M.G.L. Ch. 69, Sec. 1C)
"Janitors."...No, why do we need them, just have the kids do the work, and when they can't complete the tasks, we fail them. Real thought put into this one.
"Guidence counselors" See post above
"Prinicple" First of all, it is spelled Principal. Second, have you ever worked when there wasn't someone in charge, the Principal is the Manager for their building.
"Administrtive Assistant." Again, Administrative. But I would agree, if we get rid of all the Managers, why do they need Administrative Assistants.
"Superintendent's office (which should be in one of the school building" You are just so observant, it is in a school building, it is located at Oakmont and has been for at least five years now.
"If any money left over for personal then maybe.
assistant principal." One more, it is personnel, not personal. But if we don't need Principals, we have no need for Assistant Principals.
You alone have presented the reasons why all these positions are more than neccessary. I just hope for the sake of the people that live in these two Towns, that you did not attend Oakmont or any of the other schools in the District.
#94 Jun 15, 2009
Read post #73. I thought we had this debate years ago and decided how much we wanted to spend as a percentage of our overall "budget". Being pro-education is like saying you shouldn't beat your grandmother, you should like apple pie, and love your ugly dog. An emotional bias, and very understandable but we only have so much money to spend.
#95 Jun 15, 2009
Very good. You passed the test. Vote tomorrow.
#96 Jun 15, 2009
I, too, support the school district as I always have and I hope we are able to get the necessary funds to prevent the need to eliminate staff and programs.
You need to be quiet now. After reading through your rants, I am convinced you are not on my team and I certainly am not on your team. You sound like a spoiled rotten 4 year old who is stomping her feet on the kitchen floor and sticking out her bottom lip because mommy won't give you a cookie! Everyone who has read through this post, knows exactly what you support.(Everyone...see post #78).
Please cease. You're not helping us at all.
#97 Jun 16, 2009
Point Taken, I let myself get taken in too much. Thanks for setting me straight.
#98 Dec 3, 2010
It is scare tactics when they tell my 10 year old they won't have enough teachers for all kids next year. Oh ya and when they told my junior if it wasn't for the republicans we could have more extra curriculars. Learn of what you speak before you try and teach others.
#99 Apr 2, 2015
Layoffs of teachers are NOT needed... Teachers have contracts, they can't take paycuts and they shouldn't, you can't blame the schools- blame the state for not helping like they should
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