Water rate may - Sentinel & Enterprise

Water rate may - Sentinel & Enterprise

There are 48 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Jun 24, 2009, titled Water rate may - Sentinel & Enterprise. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

City Councilors grilled Deputy Commissioner of Water Denis Meunier about a proposed water rate increase during Tuesday night's Finance Committee meeting at City Hall.

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Just Facts

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#43 Aug 8, 2011
Pat from Fitchburg wrote:
Just Facts, do you work for the city of Fitchburg? Because you sure sound like one.
There is a big difference between the two cities; if we charge $21.60 and Leominster charges $15.41 in business taxes; guess what? They will take their business to Leominster.
Leominster Residence & commercial tax rate is $15.41/$1000
Fitchburg Tax Rate
Residential Rate is $16.20, the Commercial, Industrial and Personal Property Rate is $21.60.
Nope...don't work for the city thank God. Property taxation is easy to understand and I'm just stating facts. If you run the numbers, you will find that Leominster has higher property valuations, so the rate per thousand can be less.

Fitchburg has had a dual rate system for a long time, and that has hurt the city because the rate for businesses is high. The city council over the past couple of years voted to move some of the burden to homeowners which is why my rates are increasing a little faster than they normally would...
Pat from Fitchburg

Holliston, MA

#44 Sep 7, 2011
Listen, all I'm saying is that it is not very smart to increase the business taxes, especially $6 more than your neighboring town/city. In addition, if Fitchburg continues raise business tax, all the businesses will leave and ALL the tax burden will fall on the home owners.

I don’t care what the total amount is needed to run the city; there are other ways of raising money. What I do know is that raising business tax from $16 to $21 is not one of them.
Just Facts

Framingham, MA

#46 Sep 7, 2011
Pat,

The fact that you don't care about the total amount needed to run Fitchburg explains why you fail to understand the reality. The only options that there are is to leave services in place to run the city and charge the taxes needed to do it, or cut the services.

How many times will people keep saying that they don't want the city losing any more services or cutting anything, and then in the same breath say, but I don't want my taxes to increase either...can't have it both ways.

I'm not saying I like it, but I do understand the reality of it...no different than my own finances...things keep going up and I have the same two choices, pay the increases or cut. I actually have a third choice that the city doesn't have...I can go get an additional part time job to increase my earnings.
Cleghorn Dave

Leominster, MA

#47 Sep 7, 2011
Well put. Without the volume to distribute the tax burden the rest end up having to pick up the slack. Fitchburg has many multi family homes with tenants who rent. There may be six families living in one building but only the landlord is paying property taxes and sewerage bills. Many of these people complain that the city isn't doing enough for them but they contribute nothing.
Pat from Fitchburg

Holliston, MA

#48 Sep 9, 2011
Just facts,
You sound like a politician. I Don't believe that the only way to keep the city going is to keep increasing taxes on home owners. I would work harder to find other ways to keep businesses in the city.

If we need to cut other expenses to keep the businesses in the city, I say lets do it; because there won’t be any businesses to tax if we‘re not competitive on our business taxes.
Rent or own no difference

Fitchburg, MA

#49 Sep 9, 2011
Cleghorn Dave wrote:
Well put. Without the volume to distribute the tax burden the rest end up having to pick up the slack. Fitchburg has many multi family homes with tenants who rent. There may be six families living in one building but only the landlord is paying property taxes and sewerage bills. Many of these people complain that the city isn't doing enough for them but they contribute nothing.
The tenants rent pays for taxes and sewerage bills. A tenants rent contributes to local businesses. A tenants rent pays all the trades who need to come in to repair and maintain!

You see things through one avenue! Most landlords bought their homes with little or no money down in Fitchburg, Enough of your BS!
Cleghorn Dave

Leominster, MA

#50 Sep 9, 2011
Rent or own no difference wrote:
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The tenants rent pays for taxes and sewerage bills. A tenants rent contributes to local businesses. A tenants rent pays all the trades who need to come in to repair and maintain!
You see things through one avenue! Most landlords bought their homes with little or no money down in Fitchburg, Enough of your BS!
OK another moron. If the rates continue to rise but the tenants can't afford to pay a rent increase what is a landlord to do? You don't get rich as a landlord. You are correct the rents go towards paying bills, taxes, insurance and repairs. If you can't handle the responsabilities of owning your own home you rent and don't worry about a thing.
Just Facts

Framingham, MA

#51 Sep 9, 2011
Pat from Fitchburg wrote:
Just facts,
You sound like a politician. I Don't believe that the only way to keep the city going is to keep increasing taxes on home owners. I would work harder to find other ways to keep businesses in the city.
If we need to cut other expenses to keep the businesses in the city, I say lets do it; because there won’t be any businesses to tax if we‘re not competitive on our business taxes.
First of all Pat, I am not a politician, I am a homeowner in Fitchburg having to endure these increases just like many others.

The tax increases happened as a result of declining property values as much as the 2 1/2 % allowable increase through Prop 2 1/2. The decreases in property values are not within the control of politicians and results from our economy...if you want to blame politicians, our local politicians aren't to blame.

Since you are convinced that the city can cut expenses that would encourage businesses to move their operations here, please provide a listing of what you would cut.

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